Trying FZ18~Sunset at tuas
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Thanks for your input...I am not sure why this is heavily compressed. Use sunset setting, and also tried P setting. Hand held..with the stabiliser.
Wah, you are good...you can see a Navy Landing Ship Tank...I am not familiar with ships. Also tried the same shots with Olympus 510; of course, the image quality was better.
Will try to see why my hand held images are not good...too much hand shake.
even with stabilizer, not every shot will turn sharp at 1/10"... proper handling technique is requred.
I have looking at your olympus510 shot, and its done at 1/200 which is so much faster.
a lot of jpg compression here
stabiliser helps, but if you are not holding the camera properly in the first place will still be blur
that said, the composition of the picture lacks interest here. work on composition, first and foremost. cheers
stabiliser helps, but if you are not holding the camera properly in the first place will still be blur
that said, the composition of the picture lacks interest here. work on composition, first and foremost. cheers
here, i have circled in pink the parts which show compression, there are jagged blotches/patches which should not be the case. it is especially obvious in the sky
for shadows, in the top right, still can close one eye if very very liberal.. but in the sky is painful
here is a picture saved repeatedly at very low quality over and over again, 0 quality about 5 to 6 times:
here the same thing i have described has TAKEN OVER the picture
please save all your jpgs at maximum quality
another even simpler method is to just look carefully at those fine details like the 1 below
there is not accurate measure of compression, but as long as such things are easily seen in parts with pretty fine details, the compression is pretty bad
and yes, those compression can easily cause softness on the picture...
there is not accurate measure of compression, but as long as such things are easily seen in parts with pretty fine details, the compression is pretty bad
and yes, those compression can easily cause softness on the picture...
Hi, Night86mare, I think your comments are very useful for learning. Would you mind if you can comment on the following taken with Olympus 51 of the same setting at about the same time and date? Appreciate your inputs on the compression of jpeg.
weird, here no compression leh
here horizon seems very slightly tilted, easily corrected. what the problem is here in the last picture you have posted is that there is too much space. space is fine when it is used constructively, it adds to the picture; for example a lot of space with a sudden mass of elements can work to convey certain ideas. in this case, your space comprises of messy waves which seem to do nothing.. other than take up space. here i would suggest that you zoom in, focus on the yolk of the sun.. it is quite interesting in fact, much like a bashful bride hiding behind a veil
however in other situations where you have something interesting, even a hump of land mass.. then you do not have to compose it in such a manner, like so:
this was one of my first sunrise pictures taken with the sony h2 when i was starting out, at changi beach i remember. those were the days, when i was still very crazy about sunrise/sunset chasing. heh.
an alternative method of composition is to find something interesting to place in the foreground, i.e. rocks, anything.. so long as it works in the composition.
not sure where you took this, is it still tuas? finding a good location for the sunset where you would have a higher chance of things to take is almost as key as taking the sunset itself; for tuas i remember that there are many grass patches, and also raffles marina, where there is a lighthouse and the causeway bridge..
hazmee has great pictures from the general area here and here.. if i remember correctly, getting there by car is not a problem, but parking is.
on the other hand, here are my takes on the lighthouse at raffles marina:
link1 and link 2.
sprintist also has some great pictures from tuas.. this one is in from the raffles marina pier area; and this one is from the roughly same location as hazmee. cheers
here horizon seems very slightly tilted, easily corrected. what the problem is here in the last picture you have posted is that there is too much space. space is fine when it is used constructively, it adds to the picture; for example a lot of space with a sudden mass of elements can work to convey certain ideas. in this case, your space comprises of messy waves which seem to do nothing.. other than take up space. here i would suggest that you zoom in, focus on the yolk of the sun.. it is quite interesting in fact, much like a bashful bride hiding behind a veil
however in other situations where you have something interesting, even a hump of land mass.. then you do not have to compose it in such a manner, like so:
this was one of my first sunrise pictures taken with the sony h2 when i was starting out, at changi beach i remember. those were the days, when i was still very crazy about sunrise/sunset chasing. heh.
an alternative method of composition is to find something interesting to place in the foreground, i.e. rocks, anything.. so long as it works in the composition.
not sure where you took this, is it still tuas? finding a good location for the sunset where you would have a higher chance of things to take is almost as key as taking the sunset itself; for tuas i remember that there are many grass patches, and also raffles marina, where there is a lighthouse and the causeway bridge..
hazmee has great pictures from the general area here and here.. if i remember correctly, getting there by car is not a problem, but parking is.
on the other hand, here are my takes on the lighthouse at raffles marina:
link1 and link 2.
sprintist also has some great pictures from tuas.. this one is in from the raffles marina pier area; and this one is from the roughly same location as hazmee. cheers
Night86mare,
Many many thanks for your helpful lessons. I think I basically forgot about the rule of third, and was focusing on the sun, which was centered, but too much water. Wanted to show the reflection of the sun against the sea water. It did not turn out that way.
I took the pictures from the pier in Raffles Yacht Club in Tuas.
With your advice, I cropped the picture to try to follow the rule of third. Because of saving and then cropping and then saving, this picture quality may suffer.
Many many thanks for your helpful lessons. I think I basically forgot about the rule of third, and was focusing on the sun, which was centered, but too much water. Wanted to show the reflection of the sun against the sea water. It did not turn out that way.
I took the pictures from the pier in Raffles Yacht Club in Tuas.
With your advice, I cropped the picture to try to follow the rule of third. Because of saving and then cropping and then saving, this picture quality may suffer.
yes, in my opinion, this photo looks a lot better than the previous one in terms of composition, very classic with a much stronger sense of focus
this is why telephoto lenses are useful for landscape too when isolation of detail is key
do note that the horizon seems tilted a bit, perhaps 0.5 degrees clockwise should be able to correct it
an interesting point to note, the quality here, despite cropping is still a lot better than your first picture posted.
this is why telephoto lenses are useful for landscape too
when isolation of detail is keydo note that the horizon seems tilted a bit, perhaps 0.5 degrees clockwise should be able to correct it
an interesting point to note, the quality here, despite cropping is still a lot better than your first picture posted.
Thanks, Night86mare, for your comments. I have to look for a sortware that can provide correction of tilting.
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