To all M4/3 CSer using fast lens

[Newtoilet]

My photography isn't that great so maybe I'm off the mark here.. But I'd disagree with this. Firstly the m43 bodies don't have great facilities for MF, the focus by wire is a PITA, and thirdly I'd always say that the important factors are to plan properly, compose properly, and get the shot.

Many here think the only real way to shoot is purely manual, but - maybe its just me - by the time I get my iso, aperture, shutter speed, and now focus right... The shot is gone. So for myself I use manual iso, auto focus and aperture priority auto and it's worked great.

Rangefinders are different. The focus mechanism on a good rangefinder makes it easy to see that you're out of focus, and getting it in fast and relatively easy, as opposed to trying to figure out if a zoomed in patch of the image is fuzzy or not. Add to that the AF on the GX1 is FAST!!

At the end getting the shot and getting it right is much more important than whether you MF or AF

Yes... I wish to go full manual.. But as many can see I not an old bird. I a sucker for retro nowadays.
A friend intro me leica M9. I went to the raffles show rm.Total price tag $15k!!! Whopping ex.!! Btw I choose the wide aperture lens.give up eventually.

Also, my subject complain bat me so lousy,take so long to take a shot. So I quite held back went goin MF while taking portrait... Haahaa... Now as some say I go AF most of the time. Only when I alone then MF haahaa. Siam the nagging

 

[Newtoilet]

just want to confirm that when you say fast it means wide aperture, not the speed of focusing.

I use
oly 45 F1.8
pan 25 F1.4 <-- love this as i really like the 50mm look and feel of the F1.4

Hi, for all, fast in terms of wide aperture.

 

[Newtoilet]

First, there are threads on individual lens like the 20/1.7, 45/1.8, 12/2.0, 14/2.5, 25/1.4 and 45/2.8. There are in depth reviews from individuals for sharing. I see no point starting another thread to just cater to you. If you are talking about other manufacturers' lens like old Carl Zeiss, Leica, Nikon etc, then start a third party lens adapted to m43. That would make it relevant.

Second, I do not know what is your intention other than to fish for information. If it is for everyone, go buy that GX1 and the fast lens to review. For me, forum is to share information and opinion. You do not even have your own opinion other than to see which of the fast lens you should invest in based on others' information. Pity you really. Camera man without own opinion is just a camera man (ok, I think this is enough to close this thread?).

Third, I believe you mass private message to a few of us, using "GX1 user". I call it lazy.

Well, time to move on.
However, is best to indicate my attention. As a TS

From time to time, many thread created to ask abt their respective queries. Be it funny similar or new topics.
Yes, there are tons of review from all over the Internet. You name it,we get it.
However,specific topic that relate to individual hardly queries are hard to find or matched. That is why Forum invented. Thank goodness

IT Guy.
I have yet to receive your PM regarding I shld stop or remove.
From the way you put it. Is ALL is about you, your way, your think, your confidence level way too high.
Nothing really concern to all who keen to know abt the FAST LENS for M 4/3
Btw, this thread had gathered 4++ views and 2 likes.wow.in 1 day. Prove that no question is too irrelevant, like YOU THINK.

Ah.... Again. YOU THINK I mass PM many GX1 CSer.guess what you are wrong. You think too much. Perhaps I sent 1 too much PM to you, hoping you to relate your GX1 experience.which did not really help.

You really THINK you are the only HARD WORKing ppl spent hours researching the Internet? You really THINK others or perhaps mine Intelligence is lower??

Wow you shld THINK huh...
Perhaps your Location shld changed to A Big Big World, instead of In this small world.
You petty, little thinking. Narrow minded.

Oh, thts my opinion.

Ps: I like to take this opportunity to thank IT Guy,as a member who posted over 2000 posts. He/she had intention for a newbie like me from abuse this forum.

 

[Newtoilet]

There are a few fast native options...

Can use AF:
Panasonic 20/1.7
Panasonic Leica 25/1.4
Olympus 12/2
Olympus 45/1.8
Olympus 75/1.8

MF only:
Voigtlander 17/0.95
Voigtlander 25/0.95
SLR Magic 12/1.6
SLR Magic 11/1.4 Toy Lens
SLR Magic 35/1.7 Toy Lens
SLR Magic 26/1.4 Toy Lens

All these work fine without adapters. With the former five you can use AF, with the latter six you must use MF.

If you want to use adapters, you can basically use every other lens that has ever been created.. Manual Focus only, though. And do note about adapters: one thing that irritates me about them is, unless you buy a really expensive adapter costing $100+/$200, a lot of them don't have 'infinity' at the right place. So you can focus past infinity. Makes focusing a bit harder.

Oh.... Another fast lens Voitlgander 17mm,f 0.95
can anyone help regarding this Len in M4/3 ?

Some how, I got this bad feeling from my wife n I going to be poorer this yr.
Unless find more income sources..

 

[Newtoilet]

Oh.... Another fast lens Voitlgander 17mm,f 0.95
can anyone help regarding this Len in M4/3 ?

So sorry for my lousy English
I meant any one can put review using this len on the M 4/3 camera.

 

[Newtoilet]

Latest frm Olympus
Look like, new lens is adding to the M4/3 inventory. Fast lens I mean

I cut n paste.
"M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 75mm F1.8 lens has a very bright, large F1.8 aperture in a beautiful full-metal design that is great for portrait photography. " 2nd half of 2012

 

[pbear1973]

Well ultimately use whatever suits your style best. Whether MF or AF is not important, what's important is getting the shot and getting it right.

Yes... I wish to go full manual.. But as many can see I not an old bird. I a sucker for retro nowadays.
A friend intro me leica M9. I went to the raffles show rm.Total price tag $15k!!! Whopping ex.!! Btw I choose the wide aperture lens.give up eventually.

Also, my subject complain bat me so lousy,take so long to take a shot. So I quite held back went goin MF while taking portrait... Haahaa... Now as some say I go AF most of the time. Only when I alone then MF haahaa. Siam the nagging

 

[cannedpineapples]

Oh.... Another fast lens Voitlgander 17mm,f 0.95
can anyone help regarding this Len in M4/3 ?

So sorry for my lousy English
I meant any one can put review using this len on the M 4/3 camera.

No reviews yet. Just announced, just like the 75/1.8.

 

[Newtoilet]

Well ultimately use whatever suits your style best. Whether MF or AF is not important, what's important is getting the shot and getting it right.

I always wonder how you guys figure out the settings, MF, composing the subject, at split sec. I just not fast enough.
Always turn out lousy.

I like MF. Make the whole shooting experience more shoik.

 

[theITguy]

Keep it to yourself then...u made those who reply look stupid.
BTW, r u the founder of this forum?

I do not know I can make people look stupid. First time I know there is this power in me and there is a stupid look thing.
Life is all about controversy. On the other hand, these "stupid" people looks very helpful and experienced to me, don't you think so? I am sure they are ignoring me somehow.

 

[theITguy]

Oh ya, finally get my thanks from TS.

 

[pbear1973]

I always wonder how you guys figure out the settings, MF, composing the subject, at split sec. I just not fast enough.
Always turn out lousy.

I like MF. Make the whole shooting experience more shoik.

I normally just set my aperture to f/5.6 or f/8, auto WB, ISO 400, then go shoot. For my D7k I will also set -0.3ev because it exposes for mid tones resulting in the sky being blown out (not a major issue though for streets). I make minor corrections along the way if need be.

Composition takes a bit of forward planning. E.g. If I see a colorful background that I want to bokeh behind my subject, I would set f/1.8, drop the ISO to minimum, then wait for a suitable subject to walk past. I use a faster aperture or higher ISO for indoor or shaded shots.

If you like MF you should really try rangefinders. Unfortunately unless you have about $20k to blow, this would mean using film. There are very good film RFs available on eBay for under $200. May need to do minor repair work like changing the light seals.

 

[wonglp]

If you like MF you should really try rangefinders. Unfortunately unless you have about $20k to blow, this would mean using film. There are very good film RFs available on eBay for under $200. May need to do minor repair work like changing the light seals.

With the hi res evf available on mirrorless cameras today, it's very easy to MF. Some mirrorless uses focus peaking (Sony nex, ricoh gxr), combine with evf it's even better. I tried RF and using fast primes wide open it's rather challenging, maybe it's me, I would prefer evf, focus peaking (pity m43 doesnt have this) and lastly magnification if in doubt. My 2 cts

 

[pbear1973]

With the hi res evf available on mirrorless cameras today, it's very easy to MF. Some mirrorless uses focus peaking (Sony nex, ricoh gxr), combine with evf it's even better. I tried RF and using fast primes wide open it's rather challenging, maybe it's me, I would prefer evf, focus peaking (pity m43 doesnt have this) and lastly magnification if in doubt. My 2 cts

Haha, personal preferences I guess. I just don't like the whole fuzzy-clear thing. I find it easier to align images. But yes the parallax in an RF can make focusing with wide apertures/shallow dof a royal PITA.

 

[wonglp]

Haha, personal preferences I guess. I just don't like the whole fuzzy-clear thing. I find it easier to align images. But yes the parallax in an RF can make focusing with wide apertures/shallow dof a royal PITA.

Haha. Very much so, some like evf some like optical

 

[pbear1973]

Haha. Very much so, some like evf some like optical

X100 and X-Pro1! Best of both worlds!

The parallax issue rears its ugly head in the X100 when the AF grabs focus at something else other than what you were aiming at, because what you aimed at and what the AF thinks you're aiming at are close to each other but different. >.< That's where the EVF is pure magic. Not to mention that MF in the X100 using the OVF is pure rubbish (actually it's pure rubbish for anything other than zone focusing).

EVF is fantastic too for low-light.

 

[Newtoilet]

Oh ya, finally get my thanks from TS.

Oh yes.
Make Love Not War.

As long as there is a positive mentally for this, anyway is ok. People like to controversy. But my intention is clear. Hope all Future M4/3 can gain from this thread for fast lens in M4/3

I think I will be flame by afew here....
I am now thinking of jump ship... after reading the new OM-D

I am a sucker for retro..... M9 way too expen for me... even frame it up in home like an antique, shine a few spotlight on it also cannot..

OM-D tech and looks now overwhelm me.....

 

[Newtoilet]

Composition takes a bit of forward planning. E.g. If I see a colorful background that I want to bokeh behind my subject, I would set f/1.8, drop the ISO to minimum, then wait for a suitable subject to walk past. I use a faster aperture or higher ISO for indoor or shaded shots.

Yes Thats what I talking abt... you hit it straight in my head.

Fast lens not at the mercy due to the external factor... more freedom as a shooter.
Again...haizz... Expensive lei.... some men are a sucker for these lei... no wonder their gf/wife takr revenge:kok::kok:

 

[Newtoilet]

:thumbsup:To All CSers:thumbsup:

Please to update that this thread had been for only 48hrs.
And garnther 767 viewership.(last time I checked)3likes on this topic.
Not Bad....

Guess that there are manymany, who are keen to know more on the fast lens. On the new M4/3. new techno/frontier.

So I seek all the birdies... Old or New. Whoever... please advance this thread to a higher level. can provide more infor to M4/3 fast len mkt.

Gut feeling.
PnS users will jump into this new Micro system. I starting to see more girls switchin from PnS to more advance shooting.No more man domain
There must be many queries ard here n there.
But this thread on M4/3 fast len, is more details, mix and match kinna stuff. Expensive to buy too,naturally need for infor.
And these shooters,like me, very soon will come to this level, after the Kit Lens the manufacture provide.
Kit lens which can no longer satisfy the urge for improvement.

 

[pbear1973]

Yes Thats what I talking abt... you hit it straight in my head.

Fast lens not at the mercy due to the external factor... more freedom as a shooter.
Again...haizz... Expensive lei.... some men are a sucker for these lei... no wonder their gf/wife takr revenge:kok::kok:

Haha.. the Panny 20mm f/1.7 isn't that expensive, and it's very sharp. I use it for probably 80% of my GF3 shots.