as i mentioned..
"Well, we all have different yardsticks to measure out standards"
"The justificication comes when their clients see their work and says "Yes we want to fork out that amount of money for this photographer" for those who cant, move on."
"The defination of a professional is when a person becomes an expert at his or her work following an occupation as a means of livelihood. So once again... Photographers Many, Professionals Few."
"as long as you command the power to charge a higher rate, you will have a greater responsibility on your part." Since Singapore is a society that is "must get cheap and good" it is even easier to get scrutinized and reputation tarnished.
disclaimer.. "This abstract by CKuang explains enough for his rationale for mentioning 8K."
If one day, a few people started charging 8-10K per wedding and slowly increased their hit rates in the number of weddings signed per month, would it not encourage more photographers from all levels to increase their rates seeing that these higher end photographers can pull it off, so can they?
educating the client doesnt mean telling them that the market is like that. It means telling them that like all other professions, you too are making an honest living. And that the reason to why u pay a specialist more then an MO is probably the same reason to why you pay a pro photographer more then a hobbyist.
Most higher end photographers, not just weddings, have and are mostly bounded by a legal contract which not only assures the client, but also safeguard themselves should anything happen. So in cases where "Sh*t happened" it can be possible that the photographer be dragged to court as well. The only difference from most other jobs is, we do not have a governing body to determine our status and to met out ironclad guidelines which we must adhere to.
"as long as you command the power to charge a higher rate, you will have a greater responsibility on your part."
You may escape one, two, maybe even three. But how long is it before you make a big enough boo boo that you get dragged down enough to have such a bad rep in the industry that probably every major forums are asking people to becareful of you? Look ard... im sure u'll find mentions of names even within this forum. These people may or may not get a 2nd lease of getting back into the same business. And i personally know one of them.
Quoted from Jossseee in asiaONE forum,
"Those other professions like teachers, cleaners, engineers... their jobs are no easier than yours. And they may not even enjoy their work and may earn even less than you. So I think it's really a case of Everyone Wants More Money For Himself."
Well Since it is a case of "EVERYONE WANTS MORE MONEY FOR HIMSELF" why not just let go of the whole wedding photographers should be contented with what they are getting cos everyone wants more money for himself, and since wedding photographers can make more money for himself then be happy for him because at least he can do it, unlike others.
But all said...... At the end of the day.... We all have our own personal views on situations like that. So it is true that, " times like these it's really damned if you do, damned if you don't"
"Well, we all have different yardsticks to measure out standards"
"The justificication comes when their clients see their work and says "Yes we want to fork out that amount of money for this photographer" for those who cant, move on."
"The defination of a professional is when a person becomes an expert at his or her work following an occupation as a means of livelihood. So once again... Photographers Many, Professionals Few."
"as long as you command the power to charge a higher rate, you will have a greater responsibility on your part." Since Singapore is a society that is "must get cheap and good" it is even easier to get scrutinized and reputation tarnished.
disclaimer.. "This abstract by CKuang explains enough for his rationale for mentioning 8K."
Just to clear up some issues with the article, the amount of $8k was quoted based on a 12 hour day with an album as they wanted to bring everyone to a common standard of deliverables. Will be happy to let everyone know that i have not shot a 12 hour wedding in years and hope I won't for a long time to come. Most of the weddings I shoot range between 6-8 hours only. The paper did not quote my disclaimer so i hope readers won't take this info out of context. Hope this info helps readers make an informed judgment about the state of the industry and not get fooled by the sensational headlines.
If one day, a few people started charging 8-10K per wedding and slowly increased their hit rates in the number of weddings signed per month, would it not encourage more photographers from all levels to increase their rates seeing that these higher end photographers can pull it off, so can they?
educating the client doesnt mean telling them that the market is like that. It means telling them that like all other professions, you too are making an honest living. And that the reason to why u pay a specialist more then an MO is probably the same reason to why you pay a pro photographer more then a hobbyist.
Most higher end photographers, not just weddings, have and are mostly bounded by a legal contract which not only assures the client, but also safeguard themselves should anything happen. So in cases where "Sh*t happened" it can be possible that the photographer be dragged to court as well. The only difference from most other jobs is, we do not have a governing body to determine our status and to met out ironclad guidelines which we must adhere to.
You can maybe take 10 weddings, 6 screw-ups, 4 not too bad, you can use those 4 as your portfolios. No one knows how bad you could be. If you screw someone's pictures, how? Apologize, refund some money? Maybe, but that's not going to cure anything. What's the money worth anyway to the couple? Nothing much. The wedding's over. And you can still possibly go on. That's the worst case scenario of course. There's no governing body to review your work, to maintain your professional license, etc. In other words, you can be into photography with a mere 1 year experience and if you THINK you are ready, you can go full-time. No one can stop you, assuming you do get enough trust from your clients.
"as long as you command the power to charge a higher rate, you will have a greater responsibility on your part."
You may escape one, two, maybe even three. But how long is it before you make a big enough boo boo that you get dragged down enough to have such a bad rep in the industry that probably every major forums are asking people to becareful of you? Look ard... im sure u'll find mentions of names even within this forum. These people may or may not get a 2nd lease of getting back into the same business. And i personally know one of them.
Quoted from Jossseee in asiaONE forum,
"Those other professions like teachers, cleaners, engineers... their jobs are no easier than yours. And they may not even enjoy their work and may earn even less than you. So I think it's really a case of Everyone Wants More Money For Himself."
Well Since it is a case of "EVERYONE WANTS MORE MONEY FOR HIMSELF" why not just let go of the whole wedding photographers should be contented with what they are getting cos everyone wants more money for himself, and since wedding photographers can make more money for himself then be happy for him because at least he can do it, unlike others.
But all said...... At the end of the day.... We all have our own personal views on situations like that. So it is true that, " times like these it's really damned if you do, damned if you don't"
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