Time to go FF???


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come on guys, you know you want it... FF.... FF.... FF...... we have to desire for it. we can't just think... 'oh, FF will take 10 years to become cheap enough to reach us hobbyists and consumers at the bottom of the food chain'.

Sony already has plans to release a >20mp FF sensor. And with FF sensors already in place with both Nikon and Canon, we've definitely got things heating up. With the release of 1DsMkIII, a 22MP FF sensor has been realized. How many more pixels do you wanna cram into a camera? Besides, we already have digital back hasselblads and Mamiyas :)

I say that sensor manufacturing technology will become cheaper and cheaper (just like how memory and flat panel screens have become so much cheaper to reach the prices we are getting these days). And I daresay that FF will find its way into consumer cameras in the very very near future. Closer than you think.

To me, it doesn't really make much sense to keep pushing the APS-C line. Sure, it's functional enough for DSLRs (and really, so is FourThirds), but imagine lenses that have spanned decades of 35mm format... being finally able to work at the focal length they were designed for -and bringing it to consumer level - I think that is a realistic proposition.
 

Have read somewhere that every 18 month or so, the silicon wafer size strink by half its' own size (or double its content with the same size area), there is actually a term or word for these, but just slipped out of my mind now... and it's holding these truth since 1973 in the ic world.

you meant Moore's law yeah? ;)
 

I want. I know you are right, we want FF. And all of us want FF. But truly, it's not a matter of want that we are discussing. We could ALL use an FF if we could. But if I could only afford and have one camera, would it be an FF at this point of time? Probably not. There will be pple who will, without a doubt, choose an FF as the only camera.

But you know many many pple who have a decent compact camera even while owning an SLR isn't it? Because there are just places and ocassions where an SLR is inappropriate.

The guy who only has an FF as their primary camera is usually using it in situations where he has an assistant to carry things around for him, or in a studio, or in a controlled environment.

I'd pass my compact camera to the waiter in the restaurant so that he can shoot a group photo of my ex-classmates during a gathering. I'd ask my wife to take a picture of my kid and me with my compact. I'd go hiking with my compact so that I dun have to weight another 4.5 kgs more. I'd bring my compact on purchasing trips so I dun have to lug things around on 8 hour trips. When I go to trade shows, I'd bring just my compact to take product shots.

But, do I still want an FF? Yes, I do. Till death do us part.
 

You don't bother to read my entire posts? I don't know whether you are lying or making this statement to suggest that my discusisons are not worth reading.
Chill man! It's nothing personal, don't need to get so worked up. I tried to read through your posts, but you always lose me about halfway through each of your posts. I found it very difficult to read through all your writing and to catch what you're trying to say. It's ironic that you said I'm going around in circles and arguing for the sake of arguing. :think:

Apparently you enjoy writing long posts, challenging and arguing with people. Perhaps you should stick with blogging or something. If you want to write in a public forum, prepare to be challenged.

Since you haven't gotten what I'm trying to say throughout my posts, it's this: Everyone should buy whatever he or she is looking to achieve. Exception: If you have tons of money and don't mind spending, then it doesn't matter. You can by whatever you want.
The fact is you don't need tons of $$ to buy 5D now! Which is why the TS is asking the question? The difference between 40D and 5D is about $1k? You call that tons of $$? You paying using 1 cent coins? Not so long ago, people were paying $5k or more for a D30, and $3k for a 10D? For that $2.5k or so, 5D is worth every cent (sarcasm intended) of it.

Unless of course the individual is not serious about photography in the long run, then I agree with you that they should not waste their $$ on FF. In fact, none of these discussions matter, any gear would be a waste of $$.
 

5 years down the road maybe lens no longer needed, all using 60 mega pixels then edit scenes via super CPU calculations, 1 shot only needed.
That'll be a sad day if this happens, well at least for hobbyist like me. :o

But you know many many pple who have a decent compact camera even while owning an SLR isn't it? Because there are just places and ocassions where an SLR is inappropriate.

The guy who only has an FF as their primary camera is usually using it in situations where he has an assistant to carry things around for him, or in a studio, or in a controlled environment.
Yes totally agree with you on the first point. That's why I still have my Ixus. Images suck big time, but better to have lousy images/videos, then none at all? ;)

As for your 2nd point above, I will have to disagree as you're generalising. You know when 35mm film and cameras were invented, they made photography portable? And how much gear do you really need? A 24-105mm or the older 28-135mm will cover a lot of ground IF you're using FF. For prime lovers, a 24mm f2.8, 50mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.8 lenses are relatively cheap, fast and very good lenses. And they're not that heavy. :)
 

Yep, better a picture than none at all. :) Cheers.
 

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