The Video Business

[danialhr]

The video business is competitive with a wide range of amateurs and professionals in the market. Just a little tip. When you are looking for a videographer, I would suggest that you choose a videographer base on their portfolio and works. Every videographer has their own unique signature and style to their work. Choose the one that you like most. Base on experience that will be a decision you will lease regret.

My online portfolio is now @ http:/www.vimeo.com/danialharis.

 

[Markko]

Pardon me for my honesty, you have portfolio from 2 years ago so I guess you are considered an experienced videographer. However, your videos are not as good compared to industrial standard.

By saying those words you mentioned, I was expecting you to be an exciting newcomer.

Disappointed though.

 

[hotwork77]

By your words, my excitment was perked. However upon seeing your works which I assume it's the best selection in your collection, I was duly disappointed. It lacked style, colouring is inconsistent, editing is incorherent and the so called film look still look like video.

There's more to go before reaching the industry standard which we view it as the norm. Go out take more and put up a better portfolio. There's no substitution for experience which your video clearly lacks.

Sorry for being blunt.

 

[DXNMedia]

Here's a hard one for everyone to think about:
Please define 'industry standard'.

 

[Hobbes00]

Keep on shooting, always improve on what you have and it'll all be good!


What do you guys think about my short film here: http://vimeo.com/613069

 

[danialhr]

Thank you kind people for the encouraging words. I might not be here as the best visual artists, I m here to provide an avenue for people looking for affordable single man production.

I definitely not the only videographer here in the forum. I encourage fellow enthusiasts to share your portfolio and if you have found a decent paying assignment here on Clubsnap tell us about it.

If you are a business owner looking for high production quality and good storytelling, I will suggest you to spend your money on a production crew. My portfolio is merely a showcase of my work as a freelance videographer, providing a single man service for your business visual solution. Customized video production service can be arrange.

There is surely no industry standard in Clubsnap, many has the money to afford world class equipments though. Unfortunately I don't have a full time job nor assignments to afford that sort of stuff, I m just a struggling freelancer. Mediacorp can't even prove their standard with tens of thousands of dollars as their budget, do you think this bunch of enthusiast could do it? Video production has always been a collaborative effort. I agree my standard is not great. It is just simple for the simple business with a simple budget.

 

[danialhr]

Thanks David for the encouraging words. Tell them how much you spend on your productions. Even if not the money maybe they need to know the amount of resources that you need and time.

Anyway I am back to do films. Looking for opportunities and funding.

 

[DXNMedia]

Persevere, just keep doing it with passion and you'll improve.
Everyone are entitled to voice their opinion...there's no right or wrong in art.

It's not a field where you need to be certified before you can call yourself a videographer.
Not like a pilot, Radiographer, a Doctor, a Lawyer or Professional engineer or architect.

Even my clients sometime say that my works are not up to their expectations...conceptually & creatively that is...
Many people/clients just want to feel important by commenting about things that are hard to define. "Erm...you should have done this......Oh...you should have done that...."

If they're so good at doing what you're doing, they'd probably not require your services anyway....so you'd need to be doing something that they're not good at to earn their money.

One thing that I have maintained consistently in my works is that there will never be a chance for my clients to complain about the technical quality of my productions. :thumbsup:

 

[engr]

Hang in there Daniel.. we all go thru that path and have to keep on learning.

 

[hotwork77]

Keep on shooting, always improve on what you have and it'll all be good!


What do you guys think about my short film here: http://vimeo.com/613069

:thumbsup: The editing is tight and sharp. Music synchro is above average. Composition and art direction is beautiful. In short, can be there with the best in Singapore. Having said that, colour timing can be improved further.:thumbsup:

 

[hotwork77]

Thank you kind people for the encouraging words. I might not be here as the best visual artists, I m here to provide an avenue for people looking for affordable single man production.

I definitely not the only videographer here in the forum. I encourage fellow enthusiasts to share your portfolio and if you have found a decent paying assignment here on Clubsnap tell us about it.

If you are a business owner looking for high production quality and good storytelling, I will suggest you to spend your money on a production crew. My portfolio is merely a showcase of my work as a freelance videographer, providing a single man service for your business visual solution. Customized video production service can be arrange.

There is surely no industry standard in Clubsnap, many has the money to afford world class equipments though. Unfortunately I don't have a full time job nor assignments to afford that sort of stuff, I m just a struggling freelancer. Mediacorp can't even prove their standard with tens of thousands of dollars as their budget, do you think this bunch of enthusiast could do it? Video production has always been a collaborative effort. I agree my standard is not great. It is just simple for the simple business with a simple budget.

Not trying to be critical from A to Z. However, when you offer your services via your portfolio, clients do not really view your past projects as a one man show or as a big team effort. They will merely want you to deliver the work in accordance to their concept.

Video/film production is an expensive collaborative effort. The bar to entry has been lowered significantly in the last 2 to 3 years with cheaper equipment etc. If you look around youtube and vimeo, the standard of indie film effort has been rising and some have reached the level which we often associated with Hollywood.

Compose more, shoot more, edit more...you"ll be there some day.

 

[jasonjoseph]

as a side note, i think we should all use our real names as nicks or in signature, if you have an opinion or point to make, even if u like ruffling feathers, dun hide behind a moniker.

 

[hotwork77]

as a side note, i think we should all use our real names as nicks or in signature, if you have an opinion or point to make, even if u like ruffling feathers, dun hide behind a moniker.

Agree that we should use our real names. I think this forum doesn't allow you to change nick after you select one other than registering another nick which in this case would run counter with the rules of clone accounts.

Having said that even if using a real name or any names for that matter still would not enable you to put a face to the name. Finally...if you can't take the heat, don't stay in the kitchen.

 

[sundazz]

Industry Standard may be subjective..
one person’s meat can be another’s poison.. so danialhr hope u wont take it too hard.
Let's learn from each other regardless you have tonnes of experience or a newbies. I do learn a lot from both the newbies and the pro!
I believe each individual will have his own talent in certain area.
As what some said.. follow your passion n keep shooting n learning.

 

[danialhr]

I m cool! Thanks.

Not sure if I do have a bad portfolio because I m not getting any good enquiry here. Anyway I would be keen to learn among the experience videographers , if you guys need assistance and pay a decent meal, give me a buzz. I would love the opportunity. My cameras and gears are currently still around. Hoping to get some experience and survive as a freelance artists for a while.

 

[hjebat87]

"Industry Standard may be subjective..
one person’s meat can be another’s poison.. so danialhr hope u wont take it too hard.
Let's learn from each other regardless you have tonnes of experience or a newbies. I do learn a lot from both the newbies and the pro!
I believe each individual will have his own talent in certain area.
As what some said.. follow your passion n keep shooting n learning..."
Agree with Sundazz...

sometime what U call partner's ... eat partner..whatever U do.... learning never stop... never discourage Urself.. learned from other..in life there's lot of guru's..but they lead U to nowhere.. belive in Urself and keep improving... and I think U can ...

 

[movimom]

From what I've been seeing, hearing, & experiencing, this industry along with photography has been damaged by eager beaver glam-hungry wannabes who undercharge and or undercut the market in competition.
Since a fulltime course in Production or Film Making costs SGD15K upwards, equipment run into the tens and hundreds of thousands, I feel that the authorities should step in and control the charges for Videography Production works and or services.
I can see that the problem comes from the multitude of gov schools and polies that churn out these wide-eyed glam-hungry enthusiasts, who thinks nothing about shooting for peanuts.
What do you people think?

 

[hotwork77]

From what I've been seeing, hearing, & experiencing, this industry along with photography has been damaged by eager beaver glam-hungry wannabes who undercharge and or undercut the market in competition.
Since a fulltime course in Production or Film Making costs SGD15K upwards, equipment run into the tens and hundreds of thousands, I feel that the authorities should step in and control the charges for Videography Production works and or services.
I can see that the problem comes from the multitude of gov schools and polies that churn out these wide-eyed glam-hungry enthusiasts, who thinks nothing about shooting for peanuts.
What do you people think?

Don't think already...if cannot beat them...walk away. "Kids" beat me to it by quoting $350 for a $15000 work. Why? They got no overheads, no staff to look after, not much investment but hungry for work and don't seem to mind by short changing themselves by quoting below market rate.

I gave up...sold the business to my partners who also in the end close shop and 7 people were out of job for half a year.

 

[movimom]

Don't think already...if cannot beat them...walk away. "Kids" beat me to it by quoting $350 for a $15000 work. Why? They got no overheads, no staff to look after, not much investment but hungry for work and don't seem to mind by short changing themselves by quoting below market rate.

I gave up...sold the business to my partners who also in the end close shop and 7 people were out of job for half a year.

There isn't a need to 'walk away'. Those of us who are serious & depend upon our craft to make a living, should consider approaching the authorities to implement an Industry Standard in Fees and or Charges. Because if Consultation charges for Doctors can be standardized, I don't see why our charges cannot?
Then, If schools and educational institutes are teaching people how to make a living in Video Production, the MOE should wake up their ideas to see the damages the fries they released into the market have done, and are still doing. Otherwise, they are just as guilty of introducing a Disease into the Video Production and Film Making industry of Singapore.

 

[jopel]

Don't think already...if cannot beat them...walk away. "Kids" beat me to it by quoting $350 for a $15000 work. Why? They got no overheads, no staff to look after, not much investment but hungry for work and don't seem to mind by short changing themselves by quoting below market rate.

I gave up...sold the business to my partners who also in the end close shop and 7 people were out of job for half a year.

walk away??? :dunno: are you saying that those kids have better business model and plan than all the established production houses. :bsmilie: