The Pentax K1 Thread! - Post all your K1 picts and impressions
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Personally, I think Pentax realizes and mentions in their K1 special site that there is a need to address the trend for sharper edge to edge performance (and such numerical analysis as a buyer trend), which is in a way different from the old ways of using different pictorial criterias.
"“To minimize the level of vignetting at the edges of the image, a D FA-series lens must be designed considerably larger that its DA-series counterpart, because the incoming light must reach every corner of the larger image sensor,” the optics designer says. “But it isn’t the PENTAX style to avoid this problem by thinking first about the camera’s image processing technology while we are designing the lens. There are times when we discuss acceptable focal lengths and the reasonable characteristics of certain lenses with the product planning team. But in the end, we always work to design the most advanced optical units.” "
So I think the initial lenses like the DFA15-30; 24-70; 70-200; 150-450 and immediate upcoming lenses will be design with this in mind.
However, they do give a nod back towards designing more characterful lenses using a pictorial methods as a design criteria in the future.
“Today, we are developing the D FA-series lenses by listening to the opinions and suggestions of our users, and making whatever changes and improvements we can at the moment,” says the optics designer. “However, in the future we hope to build a more comprehensive lineup that allows users to select a lens based on the type of image description they want, just like a distinction between the Star series and the Limited series. It would also be interesting to design a lens that produces a particularly sharp image at a certain focal range, while yielding above-average image description from the minimum focusing distance to infinity.”
Although it may be some time before this kind of lens is actually developed, there is another way for users to satisfy their love of and pleasure in lenses — through the FA-series lenses. Of course, they aren’t equal to their D FA-series counterparts in terms of image resolution, since some of them may have greater vignetting at the edges, or suffer from flare. However, says the leader of the lens development team, “Many PENTAX users are quite knowledgeable about photographic skills. I’m sure they can find a way to make effective use of these lenses, such as closing down the aperture or changing the camera angle.” There are also photographers who were highly moved by the photographic masterpieces of the past, and are affected by the photographic techniques used in the pictures. Many photographers seek lenses that will produce the tunnel effect created by vignetting at the image’s edges, and the flare effect. Such distinct visual expression can be achieved with FA-series lenses, rather than D FA-series models. The feeling of image rendition and visual expression varies from one photographer to another. That’s why the PENTAX lens designers often reject general assumptions of what a lens should be.
So if you want, characterful, small and portable, just get a M20/4.
Tiredofallthese
Senior Member
Personally, I think Pentax realizes and mentions in their K1 special site that there is a need to address the trend for sharper edge to edge performance (and such numerical analysis as a buyer trend), which is in a way different from the old ways of using different pictorial criterias.
"“To minimize the level of vignetting at the edges of the image, a D FA-series lens must be designed considerably larger that its DA-series counterpart, because the incoming light must reach every corner of the larger image sensor,” the optics designer says. “But it isn’t the PENTAX style to avoid this problem by thinking first about the camera’s image processing technology while we are designing the lens. There are times when we discuss acceptable focal lengths and the reasonable characteristics of certain lenses with the product planning team. But in the end, we always work to design the most advanced optical units.” "
So I think the initial lenses like the DFA15-30; 24-70; 70-200; 150-450 and immediate upcoming lenses will be design with this in mind.
However, they do give a nod back towards designing more characterful lenses using a pictorial methods as a design criteria in the future.
“Today, we are developing the D FA-series lenses by listening to the opinions and suggestions of our users, and making whatever changes and improvements we can at the moment,” says the optics designer. “However, in the future we hope to build a more comprehensive lineup that allows users to select a lens based on the type of image description they want, just like a distinction between the Star series and the Limited series. It would also be interesting to design a lens that produces a particularly sharp image at a certain focal range, while yielding above-average image description from the minimum focusing distance to infinity.”
Although it may be some time before this kind of lens is actually developed, there is another way for users to satisfy their love of and pleasure in lenses — through the FA-series lenses. Of course, they aren’t equal to their D FA-series counterparts in terms of image resolution, since some of them may have greater vignetting at the edges, or suffer from flare. However, says the leader of the lens development team, “Many PENTAX users are quite knowledgeable about photographic skills. I’m sure they can find a way to make effective use of these lenses, such as closing down the aperture or changing the camera angle.” There are also photographers who were highly moved by the photographic masterpieces of the past, and are affected by the photographic techniques used in the pictures. Many photographers seek lenses that will produce the tunnel effect created by vignetting at the image’s edges, and the flare effect. Such distinct visual expression can be achieved with FA-series lenses, rather than D FA-series models. The feeling of image rendition and visual expression varies from one photographer to another. That’s why the PENTAX lens designers often reject general assumptions of what a lens should be.
So if you want, characterful, small and portable, just get a M20/4.
My k18 also small leh...lolxx thx for info jk
I am coming from K5 and still holding a K5. I am curious on noise performance of K1. when do you see visible noise in jpeg ? I mean which iso. 800? 1600?. no software used to reduce noise. For my needs I seldom shoot high iso but is noise highly visible even at 400 or 800. thinking of my A200 macro
So far the images i saw is fantastic from some posting of A200 macro lens from pentaxforums. thanks in advance for your reply.
otc
So far the images i saw is fantastic from some posting of A200 macro lens from pentaxforums. thanks in advance for your reply.otc
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20160515-IMGP0450 by jenkwang, on Flickr
K1+M20/4
Another one on the same day.
Personally, real glad that I went down to the city and decided to act on shooting at a location and then moving on.
I ended up covering 3 places instead of the usual 1, if I was just on foot.
I am coming from K5 and still holding a K5. I am curious on noise performance of K1. when do you see visible noise in jpeg ? I mean which iso. 800? 1600?. no software used to reduce noise. For my needs I seldom shoot high iso but is noise highly visible even at 400 or 800. thinking of my A200 macro
otc
I think I'll let the others give more info on high ISO noise performance.
Its something I care very little of nowadays (circa Kx, K5)
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Yamakasi
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I am coming from K5 and still holding a K5. I am curious on noise performance of K1. when do you see visible noise in jpeg ? I mean which iso. 800? 1600?. no software used to reduce noise. For my needs I seldom shoot high iso but is noise highly visible even at 400 or 800. thinking of my A200 macro
otc
i have the k1 and you have the A200 macro..so i think the best way to test is to pass me your A200...:bsmilie:
on a more serious note, if our schedule can be arrange, we can do a meet up to do some testing..it will be a good chance for me to learn macro shooting from you as well
these 2 pics are what i have shot on k1 at iso3200..you can go to flickr to see the full size and judge for yourself..both are full size and uncropped..altho i have shot them in raw and did some pp like pushing up exposure and increasing vibrance..so might not be that representative of the high iso performance
IMGP0722 by Unforgiven28, on Flickr
IMGP0666 by Unforgiven28, on Flickr
Yamakasi
New Member
More FA24 shots
IMGP0934 by Unforgiven28, on Flickr
IMGP0935 by Unforgiven28, on Flickr
IMGP0941 by Unforgiven28, on Flickr
IMGP0934 by Unforgiven28, on FlickrIMGP0935 by Unforgiven28, on FlickrIMGP0941 by Unforgiven28, on FlickrPersonally, I think Pentax realizes and mentions in their K1 special site that there is a need to address the trend for sharper edge to edge performance (and such numerical analysis as a buyer trend), which is in a way different from the old ways of using different pictorial criterias.
"To minimize the level of vignetting at the edges of the image, a D FA-series lens must be designed considerably larger that its DA-series counterpart, because the incoming light must reach every corner of the larger image sensor, the optics designer says. But it isnt the PENTAX style to avoid this problem by thinking first about the cameras image processing technology while we are designing the lens. There are times when we discuss acceptable focal lengths and the reasonable characteristics of certain lenses with the product planning team. But in the end, we always work to design the most advanced optical units. "
So I think the initial lenses like the DFA15-30; 24-70; 70-200; 150-450 and immediate upcoming lenses will be design with this in mind.
However, they do give a nod back towards designing more characterful lenses using a pictorial methods as a design criteria in the future.
Today, we are developing the D FA-series lenses by listening to the opinions and suggestions of our users, and making whatever changes and improvements we can at the moment, says the optics designer. However, in the future we hope to build a more comprehensive lineup that allows users to select a lens based on the type of image description they want, just like a distinction between the Star series and the Limited series. It would also be interesting to design a lens that produces a particularly sharp image at a certain focal range, while yielding above-average image description from the minimum focusing distance to infinity.
Although it may be some time before this kind of lens is actually developed, there is another way for users to satisfy their love of and pleasure in lenses through the FA-series lenses. Of course, they arent equal to their D FA-series counterparts in terms of image resolution, since some of them may have greater vignetting at the edges, or suffer from flare. However, says the leader of the lens development team, Many PENTAX users are quite knowledgeable about photographic skills. Im sure they can find a way to make effective use of these lenses, such as closing down the aperture or changing the camera angle. There are also photographers who were highly moved by the photographic masterpieces of the past, and are affected by the photographic techniques used in the pictures. Many photographers seek lenses that will produce the tunnel effect created by vignetting at the images edges, and the flare effect. Such distinct visual expression can be achieved with FA-series lenses, rather than D FA-series models. The feeling of image rendition and visual expression varies from one photographer to another. Thats why the PENTAX lens designers often reject general assumptions of what a lens should be.
So if you want, characterful, small and portable, just get a M20/4.
Yes yes wait for their new lenses.. I always like prime over zoom.. :X
20160515-IMGP0450 by jenkwang, on Flickr
K1+M20/4
Another one on the same day.
Personally, real glad that I went down to the city and decided to act on shooting at a location and then moving on.
I ended up covering 3 places instead of the usual 1, if I was just on foot.
Wow rainbow flarE!
oooo. is the DFA 70-200 yours?? take more pictures with the lens with the K1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tiredofallthese
Senior Member
Sunday morning....Fa31. I've been looking for a 28mm but somehow i guess, 31mm have (temporary) diminished my thoughts of getting one.
I feel that its usable for almost all situations where I'd use a tripod or clamp.
Just take the normal pict, then do another one with PixS.
Nice vantage point.
I think its better with the night lights up than for sunrise, which is what I have only done from this spot.
I better go there soon before its no more.
Hold that thought ..............nice lens maybe you don't need that 28mm after all......
i have the k1 and you have the A200 macro..so i think the best way to test is to pass me your A200...:bsmilie:
on a more serious note, if our schedule can be arrange, we can do a meet up to do some testing..it will be a good chance for me to learn macro shooting from you as well
these 2 pics are what i have shot on k1 at iso3200..you can go to flickr to see the full size and judge for yourself..both are full size and uncropped..altho i have shot them in raw and did some pp like pushing up exposure and increasing vibrance..so might not be that representative of the high iso performance
minimum noise a that iso 3200. seems great. awsom.:thumbsup:
n thanks. you have answered me.
otc
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felixcat8888
Senior Member
Nice shots, Joe...
I feel that its usable for almost all situations where I'd use a tripod or clamp.
Just take the normal pict, then do another one with PixS.
Nice vantage point.
I think its better with the night lights up than for sunrise, which is what I have only done from this spot.
I better go there soon before its no more.
Yeah.. must go there take before it is gone... I think ur M20 or Samyang 14 will be wide enough.
Clamp or a more sturdy and tall tripod is more recommended.
cyk13
Member
Sunday morning....Fa31. I've been looking for a 28mm but somehow i guess, 31mm have (temporary) diminished my thoughts of getting one.
Joe, :thumbsup:
Tiredofallthese
Senior Member
