The moderator is infact playing god!

[litefoot]

Who you think you are? Say close then close ? :bheart:
you sound like siding that AD photog :thumbsd:

So, will siding with the AD photographer get stoned in public?

 

[zaren]

roygoh....thanks for your explanation.

 

[shung]

There is absolutely no doubt that that moderators are humans (I assume, are they?) with all the erroneous thinking and misjudgements that is so characteristic of the human race.

And on this basis, I am prepared to accept that they can make mistakes. And I certainly hope they are prepared to accept that they can make mistakes.

It is also true that we are guests here. And as guests we should try to behave in a reasonable manner. But we are "invited guests". This forum is an open forum "inviting" anyone interested in things photographic to come and learn and share. And as "invited" guests we should be accorded decent respects.

Most of the time, we are indeed treated with respect. Thank you.

But sometimes the unsavory side of humanity affects a moderator or two. And wrong judgements are made. Wrong judgements are not neccesarily an indictment of that moderator. It is only a wrong judgement that can be corrected easily if "face" does not come in to interfere.

And I think moderators should learn to moderate themselves, and not "close ranks". This will bring the supposedly impartiality of moderators into disrepute. I know this can happen and indeed had happened.

My comments do not apply to this particular thread. But if as what Zaren had mentioned regarding reachme's post is correct, then I will have to agree with Deadpoet that closing reachme's thread maybe inappropriate.

Well said.

 

[kahheng]

..........by post #13 Katherine has already cited the full name of Soh Kah Heng and some other member later identified him as Chris Soh. Hongsien also clarified on behalf of the kahheng that he does not offer wedding photography services. By the time kahheng started participating in the thread, there should be no more identity confusion.

And I am sure there'll be absolutely none now.

Maybe I should change my nick since there now at least two "Kah Heng"s who photograph that make me icky all over when I think that they share my name.

I fully support Wolfgang's decision to close the original thread, and I see reachme2003's thread as an attempt to revive a closed thread. That's why I decided to close it.

What a good idea.

 

[kahheng]

I think Roy has posted a very very well-written explanation (which i'm sure he took time and effort to pen).

I was waiting for such a response to see how the moderators would deal with this and i must say i'm impressed. his explanation left me no doubt that CS mods are doing the right thing in this forum.

like many of you, i wondered if it was right to close it. but after reading roy's response, i concur with him.

Roy has been fair and balanced, very much so (and looking at your location, please be assured that I do NOT mean it in the Fox sense)

 

[litefoot]

Hey, I am not paying a single cent to use the forum to air my views and I am grateful for that.

Well, the mods are like the owners of the house, I am sure you can turn away any strangers from entering your home without valid reasons.

I know exactly that it is not easy to moderate a forum. Give these peeps a break.

Lastly, I want to say, "Believe nothing you heard and only half you see."

 

[nemesis32]

Pure and simple. Moderator are not GOD, at most they are nanny, supervisor,police or whatever. You can choose what you do. You have a choice. With GOD, you have no choice.....

 

[Christwings]

It will not be fair to judge the moderator base on others members' comments. Roy had make a very clear explaination on this issue here which we should all take time to read before posting our judgement.
Is time we rest our case on this and place our attention back to our common passion; photography. :bsmilie:

 

[togu]

It will not be fair to judge the moderator base on others members' comments. Roy had make a very clear explaination on this issue here which we should all take time to read before posting our judgement.
Is time we rest our case on this and place our attention back to our common passion; photography. :bsmilie:

Let's close this thread then.

 

[StreetShooter]

Erm, the admins own the board. Mods only help to moderate it.

 

[student]

Well, the mods are like the owners of the house, I am sure you can turn away any strangers from entering your home without valid reasons.

You are right that an owner of the house can turn away any strangers from entering your home without any reasons. Unfortunately this is not the scenario here.

Here, the owners of the house had invited guests in. They are no longer strangers. To invite your guests with open arms (Isn't this the case? I am not aware of any mechanism in CS to vet the suitability of anyone to register as a guest), and then summarily turn them away with "without valid reasons" would be a little inappropriate, would it not be?

Streetshooter is right. The moderators are not the owners. They are moderating. It is a difficult job, no question about it. But the moderators should also abide by the rules of the game, and reasonableness.

 

[d.a.photo]

Over here in CS, I do faced a hell lot of problems with people who reserved things or promised to deal, after that disappeared without any further communication.

The IMPORTANT point I am trying to raised here is "COMMUNICATION".

To speak a word of fairness for DeadPoet, its very RARE for mod like Roy to post such detail explanation why threads are closed.

Since CS started, many many threads beens closed without such detail explanation. Thus causes of frustrations are there.

There seems a very serious problem, in times past, for mods to closed threads without saying anything abt it.

This is after all, a public forum. To "pre-emptive" on anything is considered "AUTHORITATIVE"

Apart form the rights of moderaters to do this or that, mods must show some kind of explanation like what Roy had done, or should hv done much earlier.

Perhaps alot more misunderstanding, miscommunication and unhappiness could hv been resolved much earlier, if mods are alot more communicative in their action.

For those who stick with the idea that " mods hv the right to do this or that.." , I think its a not-so-mature mentality. Or perhaps Singaporean are so used to authoritative govt that people are so scared to ask questions.

To sent any question to the mods, does not means challenging their rights and authority. Its simple means - People hv the need to know "WHY", people hv the rights to know the rational behind decisions.

 

[NC30]

da photo only got 10 post and join for 3 months how come got face so many 'hell lot of problems'. is it this is your 2nd nick?

 

[varf]

da photo only got 10 post and join for 3 months how come got face so many 'hell lot of problems'. is it this is your 2nd nick?

let us not pass judgement based on number of posts or date of registration, lest it leads to another meaningless squabble.

anyhow, i don't see why three months is too short to run into people problems. hell, some manage it on their first day.

 

[Stylus C34]

da photo only got 10 post and join for 3 months how come got face so many 'hell lot of problems'. is it this is your 2nd nick?

Guess D.A.Photo is refering to this 2 thread,

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?p=1162453#post1162453
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=132720

Looking at the 2 junk threads, what kind of free speech are we expecting?

 

[NC30]

oh.. da photo is lawyer. No wonder english so good.

 

[NC30]

let us not pass judgement based on number of posts or date of registration, lest it leads to another meaningless squabble.

anyhow, i don't see why three months is too short to run into people problems. hell, some manage it on their first day.

oh ok. i also surf sometime already then register one. i think da photo also same.

 

[reachme2003]

it is late. i will not respond till i have the opportunity of reading thru this and the other which was closed. btw, i do not have the patience of reading long or multiple paras posts.

are mods going to close this as well? playing god many times over?

 

[jOhO]

Roy has been fair and balanced, very much so (and looking at your location, please be assured that I do NOT mean it in the Fox sense)

i'm sorree, u lost me about the fox and location part... ahahah :dunno:

 

[hongsien]

i'm sorree, u lost me about the fox and location part... ahahah :dunno:

'Fox' refers to the UNbalanced viewpoints Fox News gives (bu tthen again, who of the big US news agencies does?? All controlled by 5 groups), and 'location' I think Roy is not currently in SG.......

HS