[SunChasersSG] Newbie Outing (Part 17)-Lower Peirce Reservoir Park Sunrise (Photo)

[sqroot]

Every pic has a story...What are u trying to show in this picture?

Wanted to show the contrast between the peaceful water and the hard uneven rocks. And originally wanted to show some misty effect with the ND8 but guess my exposure not long enough.

 

[korbidp3k]

Thanks for being willing to help.

Question 1 - I wanted more misty rocks but guess the water in the reservoir is too still to achieve that effect?

But then again, MGohzxc manage to capture some mist on her rocks on her picture #2. How is that possible?

Question 2 - When i first arrive around 630, with my ND8 on, i cant auto focus due to the low lighting available. What i did was to

auto focus without the ND8 first,

change to manual focus,

screw the ND8 on,

hit the shutter.

Is this the correct way?

Sorry, was out for lunch, just came back ;p

#1, the purpose of ND filter is to allow slower shutter speed by reducing the amount of light coming in. One of the effects of shooting with slow shutter speed is the misty effect that you mentioned. But it doesn't mean that using an ND filter the user will definitely achieve the effect.
As bro Ghaz has mentioned, your picture doesn't get the effect because the shutter speed is still too fast even with an ND8 (ND8 is 3 stop reduction). Given the same condition, you can try with either a smaller aperture or by using a ND filter with more stop reduction. Thus, your shutter speed can be slower.

#2, what i do is normally is first to remove my filter, compose and manual focus, meter the scene to figure out the shutter speed required (say x sec), put on the ND filter and multiply the f-stop with the x. So in your case, say x is 1 sec, that means with your ND8, you need to use a shutter speed of 8 sec.

Hope this helps

 

[MGohzxc]

Aiyo, chilicrab1, better next time dont attend in sleeveless T, especially when a certain soft soft ball around ......

Hello Uncle Scubagolfer,
Please say hello to Mrs. Scubagolfer for me. You have very beautiful dogs....

 

[MGohzxc]

Thanks for being willing to help.

Question 1 - I wanted more misty rocks but guess the water in the reservoir is too still to achieve that effect?

But then again, MGohzxc manage to capture some mist on her rocks on her picture #2. How is that possible?

Question 2 - When i first arrive around 630, with my ND8 on, i cant auto focus due to the low lighting available. What i did was to

auto focus without the ND8 first,

change to manual focus,

screw the ND8 on,

hit the shutter.

Is this the correct way?

Hi Sqroot,

My first two pictures were taken at about 6.15am and exposure is 45 sec F16 without any filter. #3 & #4 is with my 6 stop ND filter. all at ISO100..

 

[MGohzxc]

Yah u zao so fast... Lightly Not entirely flat today bro:devil:

Ya.. also never teach anything............

 

[Jacobs]

Post my 2nd quite so..so picture..:embrass:
Don't :kok: me if this picture make you uncomfortable..
So far today never touch my ND(99+11)..:cry:

 

[enzeru21]

WOAH~!! everyone so hardworking post photos le... i haven't even downloaded to my com.. busy doing gf's birthday present~!! lol... rushing...

Thanks Jacob for org again~!!.. sorry wasn't in the group pic... was somewhere in the woods area still shooting the sun from the other side...

will try to get my pics done in the next 2 days..


Nice meeting everyone.. especially the young talented girl who woke up so early~! lol.. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Numnumball]

Wanted to show the contrast between the peaceful water and the hard uneven rocks. And originally wanted to show some misty effect with the ND8 but guess my exposure not long enough.

As what adrianno has pointed out, u need a stronger ND to prolong the shutter duration at the point if take as more ambient light kicks in.. This is too much of a abstract rather than landscape as the composition is flat n lack depth... Note shd involve sme bg element to protray connection with place of shoot...

 

[james8110]

thanks jacab 4 organising..... 2nd sunrise still not master the skill to shoot wif nb fliter and long exposure........ Next i try again.... great 2 see u dd again....

 

[MGohzxc]

Because she shot much earlier in the day before the sun came up and managed a slower shutter speed. Just by putting on an ND8 does not guarantee the misty effect, remember the purpose is to lower shutter speed sufficiently to blur the water but you shot much later in the day so the ND8 was insufficient to lower your shutter speed enough.

Hi Ghaz1, you not there today... this one is for you in B&W HDR special - Lower Pierce Sunrise

 

[Numnumball]

Ya.. also never teach anything............

Xiao Mei Mei... Actually i didnt know u r here tiday...Sorry k... Next time uncles will teach u ok ..:sweat:

 

[MGohzxc]

Xiao Mei Mei... Actually i didnt know u r here tiday...Sorry k... Next time uncle NNB will teach ..:sweat:

Hello Uncle NNB,
No la... just joking... I was there at around 5.45am this morning. But I was very happy to be there and see so many Sun Chasers. Next is Upper Seletar sunset and try out 10 stops.

 

[sqroot]

Hi Sqroot,

My first two pictures were taken at about 6.15am and exposure is 45 sec F16 without any filter. #3 & #4 is with my 6 stop ND filter. all at ISO100..

Sorry, was out for lunch, just came back ;p

#1, the purpose of ND filter is to allow slower shutter speed by reducing the amount of light coming in. One of the effects of shooting with slow shutter speed is the misty effect that you mentioned. But it doesn't mean that using an ND filter the user will definitely achieve the effect.
As bro Ghaz has mentioned, your picture doesn't get the effect because the shutter speed is still too fast even with an ND8 (ND8 is 3 stop reduction). Given the same condition, you can try with either a smaller aperture or by using a ND filter with more stop reduction. Thus, your shutter speed can be slower.

#2, what i do is normally is first to remove my filter, compose and manual focus, meter the scene to figure out the shutter speed required (say x sec), put on the ND filter and multiply the f-stop with the x. So in your case, say x is 1 sec, that means with your ND8, you need to use a shutter speed of 8 sec.

Hope this helps

Thanks for the advice.

#1 Hahaha, most of my pictures already f25 to f36. Guess, if i still want lower shutter, might have to BBB:devil: ND with more stop reduction.

#2 Thanks, will try it out next time.

 

[sqroot]

Hi Sqroot,

My first two pictures were taken at about 6.15am and exposure is 45 sec F16 without any filter. #3 & #4 is with my 6 stop ND filter. all at ISO100..

Icic, thanks for advice. You are too pro for your age, hahaha i think i was still playing gameboy and not DSLR when i was your age.

As what adrianno has pointed out, u need a stronger ND to prolong the shutter duration at the point if take as more ambient light kicks in.. This is too much of a abstract rather than landscape as the composition is flat n lack depth... Note shd involve sme bg element to protray connection with place of shoot...

hmmm, icic, will take note and try to add in those element in future. Thanks

 

[daredevil123]

Ya.. also never teach anything............

Which brings us to the next topic... Funny I felt that this outing, no one was really asking many questions... everyone is quiet quiet shooting....

All shy is it?

Please people, ask questions next time. Its free mah. :bsmilie::bsmilie:

 

[korbidp3k]

#1 Hahaha, most of my pictures already f25 to f36.

Wow, i rarely see a lens with aperture smaller than 32 haha. If you are using such small apertures, be careful of getting diffraction which can reduce the sharpness of your pic.

Some info on diffraction can be found here

 

[daredevil123]

Hello , here are my shots . Thanks Uncle Jacobs for hosting the outing and nice to meet everyone .
#1

Arlo MGohzxc XMM. I didn't see you till much later during the shoot.

Anyway, you probably missed me saying this to the newbies. That it is advisable to find an angle where the roof of the pavilion is clear from the tree line in the background. So as to get some good separation.

That is why you see that whole lump of people all fighting for space there. That is angle where you can clear the roof from the trees... Like this...

 

[MGohzxc]

Arlo MGohzxc XMM. I didn't see you till much later during the shoot.

Anyway, you probably missed me saying this to the newbies. That it is advisable to find an angle where the roof of the pavilion is clear from the tree line in the background. So as to get some good separation.

That is why you see that whole lump of people all fighting for space there. That is angle where you can clear the roof from the trees... Like this...

Hello Uncle Albert,
Thank you for your C&C
Yes I was there very early so I when to this spot first to setup for this picture. Yes one big lump at the roof area and was trying something to make it better in PS. But cannot.. too late.. Btw all my pictures will re post again. I forgot to do the highlight and shadow and it will be better after that.. Thanks

 

[scubagolfer]

Hello Uncle Scubagolfer,
Please say hello to Mrs. Scubagolfer for me. You have very beautiful dogs....

Thanks dear, my dogs' head now swell lor .... you say they beautiful .... nice to know you, say hi to your Dad (Richard right, hope I remember correctly) ..

 

[daredevil123]

Hello Uncle Albert,
Thank you for your C&C
Yes I was there very early so I when to this spot first to setup for this picture. Yes one big lump at the roof area and was trying something to make it better in PS. But cannot.. too late.. Btw all my pictures will re post again. I forgot to do the highlight and shadow and it will be better after that.. Thanks

Well, it is never too late. The place will not change mah. Can always go again when the weather is nicer.

Anyway, just want to let you know la. These are little things to take note when composing.