Well, he did say he is a noob.
Anyways, the RX1 images will offer much higher details if view at 100%.
In more practical terms of not pixel peeking, it will offer nicer color, dynamic range, bokeh, rendering for the image as a whole.
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Well, he did say he is a noob.
Anyways, the RX1 images will offer much higher details if view at 100%.
In more practical terms of not pixel peeking, it will offer nicer color, dynamic range, bokeh, rendering for the image as a whole.
I would say that RX1 is a very niche camera. The fullframe sensor will definitely yield very good low light IQ. But the questions are do you need that level of performance ? and how do you view your photos ? Web size on FB etc.
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Thanks Edlet & Atarandas. For family and kids photos, I am prepared to go all out. Memories are priceless. 
Not into pixel peeking but the objects need to be sharp with fast AF, especially indoor conditions with kids running around. Viewing is mostly on PC but occasionally I do canvas printings. Currently, I am happy with my 5N and CZ 24mm f1.8 but curious on RX1 now.
Not into pixel peeking but the objects need to be sharp with fast AF, especially indoor conditions with kids running around. Viewing is mostly on PC but occasionally I do canvas printings. Currently, I am happy with my 5N and CZ 24mm f1.8 but curious on RX1 now.
Thanks Edlet & Atarandas. For family and kids photos, I am prepared to go all out. Memories are priceless.
Not into pixel peeking but the objects need to be sharp with fast AF, especially indoor conditions with kids running around. Viewing is mostly on PC but occasionally I do canvas printings. Currently, I am happy with my 5N and CZ 24mm f1.8 but curious on RX1 now.
If you are comfortable with the 5n/CZ 24mm focal length but need more IQ, better high ISO, etc, the RX1 should fit your needs perfectly.
All things being equal (same generation etc) the main advantage I feel for a full frame sensor over APSC is depth of field and high ISO noise level.
But in real world it is not as clear cut since different sensors and firmware will affect IQ, AF etc.
Availability in Singapore, I was told the number of available units is a joke. Worse than the initial launch of the Nikon D800. Some shops did not get any and those that did got some ridiculous number like 2 units. Can anyone confirm?
But in real world it is not as clear cut since different sensors and firmware will affect IQ, AF etc.
Availability in Singapore, I was told the number of available units is a joke. Worse than the initial launch of the Nikon D800. Some shops did not get any and those that did got some ridiculous number like 2 units. Can anyone confirm?
Thanks Edlet & Atarandas. For family and kids photos, I am prepared to go all out. Memories are priceless.
Not into pixel peeking but the objects need to be sharp with fast AF, especially indoor conditions with kids running around. Viewing is mostly on PC but occasionally I do canvas printings. Currently, I am happy with my 5N and CZ 24mm f1.8 but curious on RX1 now.
Ic. If you are happy with 5n and CZ 24 1.8mm , I am very sure you will be much delighted with the Fullframe 24mp Sensor and the 35mm F2 lens =D . Since you are used to 24mm on APSC , you would be comfortable with 35mm on fullframe. Cheers .
But I am afraid the RX1 would be something got money also hard to buy due to limited stocks globally.
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So true... Haha... more limited than gold now... Just gotta b patient... :bsmilie:
Just a quick report on using the EVF.
I guess the EVF will be considered the most popular and useful of all the accessories, at least from my point of view so I will cover my experiences with it.
First thing you will notice, the price, it is not cheap. I paid more than SGD500 for mine. Quite expensive.
Second thing, it comes nicely packaged, when you open the box there is a small cleaning cloth, a small eye piece attachment, a leather case and instructions. When you open the leather case you will find the EVF with a large eye piece attachment already attached. I personally prefer the smaller eye piece attachment but I can see where the bigger one maybe more useful for some. It helps with sealing out external light.
Third thing, it looks like the NEX 5N/5R EVF but in black, I think it looks better in black. It is plastic but does not feel too cheap.
Fourth, the most important, it is probably the best EVF I have used (on par with the A99) but in some ways better. It tilts and has 90 degrees of movement. You can look down on it like a Rollei. This makes it alot more versatile than the A99 EVF (please note that the A99 has a tilting LCD, which makes up for the fixed EVF).
Fifth, you can set what you see in the EVF separately from the LCD.
Sixth, you can switch to the EVF manually via a button on the side or eye detection. Eye detection works well and it switches pretty fast. For the large eye cup, it may not detect your eye every single time especially if you are wearing glasses. But it is not a huge problem as moving the camera a little bit normally triggers the detection.
All in all the EVF is something that I find to be very useful. Now for a list of things I don't like (I really hope I don't get flamed for being honest again.):
1. The EVF does not click or lock into place. It just slides into the hotshoe. It can also easily slide out if you are not careful and losing a SGD500+ accessory is going to be painful!
2. The EVF tilts upwards but again it does not click into place when it is horizontal or vertical. Meaning if you hang the RX1 around your neck, the EVF will be rubbing against your chest and tilting up and down as you move.
3. The EVF diopter adjustment is not a dial but a slider. Quite easy for it to get caught on something and you will have to readjust it to suit your eye.
4. The rubber seal on my large eye cup does not sit on the bracket very well.
I guess the EVF will be considered the most popular and useful of all the accessories, at least from my point of view so I will cover my experiences with it.
First thing you will notice, the price, it is not cheap. I paid more than SGD500 for mine. Quite expensive.
Second thing, it comes nicely packaged, when you open the box there is a small cleaning cloth, a small eye piece attachment, a leather case and instructions. When you open the leather case you will find the EVF with a large eye piece attachment already attached. I personally prefer the smaller eye piece attachment but I can see where the bigger one maybe more useful for some. It helps with sealing out external light.
Third thing, it looks like the NEX 5N/5R EVF but in black, I think it looks better in black. It is plastic but does not feel too cheap.
Fourth, the most important, it is probably the best EVF I have used (on par with the A99) but in some ways better. It tilts and has 90 degrees of movement. You can look down on it like a Rollei. This makes it alot more versatile than the A99 EVF (please note that the A99 has a tilting LCD, which makes up for the fixed EVF).
Fifth, you can set what you see in the EVF separately from the LCD.
Sixth, you can switch to the EVF manually via a button on the side or eye detection. Eye detection works well and it switches pretty fast. For the large eye cup, it may not detect your eye every single time especially if you are wearing glasses. But it is not a huge problem as moving the camera a little bit normally triggers the detection.
All in all the EVF is something that I find to be very useful. Now for a list of things I don't like (I really hope I don't get flamed for being honest again.):
1. The EVF does not click or lock into place. It just slides into the hotshoe. It can also easily slide out if you are not careful and losing a SGD500+ accessory is going to be painful!
2. The EVF tilts upwards but again it does not click into place when it is horizontal or vertical. Meaning if you hang the RX1 around your neck, the EVF will be rubbing against your chest and tilting up and down as you move.
3. The EVF diopter adjustment is not a dial but a slider. Quite easy for it to get caught on something and you will have to readjust it to suit your eye.
4. The rubber seal on my large eye cup does not sit on the bracket very well.
OVF.
Someone please explain to me what the OVF is for? I can see a need if it is a film camera, but for digital? With a perfectly functional LCD? What is there to frame? What you see is what you get as it is on the LCD.
The OVF mounts onto the hotshoe but it has absolutely no connection to the RX1. It is pretty much just a piece of glass with very bright frame lines.
The OVF comes packaged very much like the EVF. It has the same leather case and cleaning cloth. The OVF is really well made, all metal and glass. If I recall, I paid more for the OVF than the EVF if that is even possible.
Still don't know why I need an OVF for the RX1. I think Voightlander makes a similar one for alot cheaper. Need to check with Chiif when I am back.
Someone please explain to me what the OVF is for? I can see a need if it is a film camera, but for digital? With a perfectly functional LCD? What is there to frame? What you see is what you get as it is on the LCD.
The OVF mounts onto the hotshoe but it has absolutely no connection to the RX1. It is pretty much just a piece of glass with very bright frame lines.
The OVF comes packaged very much like the EVF. It has the same leather case and cleaning cloth. The OVF is really well made, all metal and glass. If I recall, I paid more for the OVF than the EVF if that is even possible.
Still don't know why I need an OVF for the RX1. I think Voightlander makes a similar one for alot cheaper. Need to check with Chiif when I am back.
There are hardcore people who will always insist on an ovf, even if it's a "dumb" one
I guess the only case for the OVF is if you shoot hyperfocal, do you have any feedback on the RX1's manual focus functionality? MF by wire with distance scale or what? Otherwise, AF shooting with the OVF is like the errr.... Contax G / Contax T? Zeiss glass there too!
Of course, single center point AF and shooting stopped down F8 and beyond, that will work with the OVF too but I don't think that's any fun!
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Have not really played with manual focus much, but from what I have tried it is focus by wire, a distance meter shows up on screen. You can turn on focus assist with zoom and focus peaking which works quite well. So I am still not sure what purpose the OVF serves as you still need the LCD to focus. Even with smaller aperture settings and large depth of field you will still need the LCD since there is no distance scale on the lens.
Meaning you can pre-set the focus distance to say 5m on the LCD, hyperfocal for a 35mm lens at f8 would typically be ~2.5m to infinity, that will work with the OVF for snap shooting I think? Would really appreciate if you could test it out and let me know if this works, TIA!!!
Meaning you can pre-set the focus distance to say 5m on the LCD, hyperfocal for a 35mm lens at f8 would typically be ~2.5m to infinity, that will work with the OVF for snap shooting I think? Would really appreciate if you could test it out and let me know if this works, TIA!!!
For manual focusing, the distance scale goes from 0.3 to 3m to infinity, no matter what your aperture is set at. Which is weird.
If you set the distance scale to a certain distance each time you turn off the camera it resets to infinity. There maybe a setting somewhere to change this to remember your last set point but I have not found it yet.
The OVF to me is a little pointless since if you need to bring the camera up to your eyes you might as well just look at the LCD. It is a "dumb" OVF with just frame lines, no focus confirmation nothing.
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