ageha
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If you would you could always buy an underwater housing!
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SONY NEX7 VS Olympus OM-D E-M5
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...Also I read many comments of "has more lens available" ! ...if it's a lens collection TS wants to start, he should really buy a Canon !!!
Please bear in mind that the majority of new camera buyers will just stick with the standard kit lens for the life of the camera, even the most enthusiast of shooters will buy at most 3 - 5 dedicated lenses for the system, how then is this a limitation for the NEX ?
It's funny how this Canon 'sell phrase' has been adopted by another brand. :bsmilie:
Please bear in mind that the majority of new camera buyers will just stick with the standard kit lens for the life of the camera, even the most enthusiast of shooters will buy at most 3 - 5 dedicated lenses for the system, how then is this a limitation for the NEX ?
It's funny how this Canon 'sell phrase' has been adopted by another brand. :bsmilie:
albertri
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Ghostfit said:...Also I read many comments of "has more lens available" ! ...if it's a lens collection TS wants to start, he should really buy a Canon !!!
Please bear in mind that the majority of new camera buyers will just stick with the standard kit lens for the life of the camera, even the most enthusiast of shooters will buy at most 3 - 5 dedicated lenses for the system, how then is this a limitation for the NEX ?
It's funny how this Canon 'sell phrase' has been adopted by another brand. :bsmilie:
Hehe i think im different bro when i 1st jump to interchangeable lens body that was EPL1 i have a very short affair with the kit lens during that time m4/3 was like NEX only have very handful of native lenses so i quick gotten my self a 4/3 HG 14-54... eversince then no more kit lens for me.
Lens selection doesnt really means you get to own all but you have some selections good example if you want to bring nex to landscape photography the widest native you have is 16mm prime (except for Samyang FE) and if you want portraits only prime you can have now is 50mm f1.8 if you go macro we dont have yet any... so this is to me lens selection... its hard for others to move to nex coming from other system than us using Sony Alpha coz for us we could adapt our Alpha lens to Emount with proper adapter so we dont need to invest in more lenses...
Like me i am only or most probably will be using my nex on my MF lenses... thats why i am keeping my Alpha gears for other photography needs.
I have a friend that i kinda push to get nex5 over ep3 and after two weeks he said the kit is very limiting for him he end up getting 18-200 which gives him extra lenght but IQ not 100% sure it was an upgrade for him. He's not into MF lenses so his lens choices is very limited. Now he kinda thinking of moving to EM5 due to he likes primes and landscapes which now nex cant really provide his needs.
But all said nex is very young and slowly we should see more and more lenses, m4/3 started like this also just a matter of time.
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ageha
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You forgot the E 30mm f/3.5 1:1 macro lens as an option.
albertri
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30mm macro is hmmm dunno man its like m4/3 12-50 macro so called lens hehehe
ageha
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The E 30mm f/3.5 goes down to 1:1, the Olympus zoom doesn't. If you have steady hands, a sunny day and a bug that isn't scared you can take macros even with a 30mm 1:1 lens.
Examples I took with the A mount version on an A300.
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albertri
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ageha said:The E 30mm f/3.5 goes down to 1:1, the Olympus zoom doesn't. If you have steady hands, a sunny day and a bug that isn't scared you can take nice macros with it.
Yep it does... but this lens is more good for studio macro or slow/dead criters. Still nex needs something a bit longer
ageha
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Yep it does... but this lens is more good for studio macro or slow/dead criters. Still nex needs something a bit longer
Yes, it does.
But as a lazy walk-around all-around macro lens I prefer actually the SAL-30F28 and SEL30M35. Those two are also unique lenses m43 doesn't offer.
albertri
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ageha said:Yes, it does.
Hehe im not into macro coz im lazy also hehe.
Anyways im not saying nex is a lemon system just that Its still young like m4/3 couple of years ago.
I <3 Macro shooting but when i think of taking macro.. it really hurt me some time cause i need to focus and focus... manually. Anywhere i don't stick to the kit lens, just when i got enough money for my hobby i change to Sigma 30mm F/2.8 . and now it still mounting... while my kit lens is inside the dry cabinet.
ageha
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Only used AF for the above photos. I use MF only with my longer macro lenses.
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Mind intro some? i'm quite a cheapo but sometime i feel like taking photo of some insect/bird.
This what i get for using Sigma 30mm F/2.8
ageha
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I'm not really sure what you want to achieve but in your case you might be better off with a longer tele zoom, you don't really need a macro lens for shooting frame filling birds or bigger insects:
500px / Photo "Babana Bird" by Sascha Robi
500px / Photo "Dragonfly" by Sascha Robi
I took both shot with an equivalent lens of 200-600mm with AF. I guess the SEL55210 for E-mount should be suitable for shots like that.
The only longer lens I use on my NEX body for shots like that is the Canon New Macro FD 200mm f/4: 500px / Photo "Butterfly" by Sascha Robi
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albertri said:Yep it does... but this lens is more good for studio macro or slow/dead criters. Still nex needs something a bit longer
I use the Sigma 150mm macro with the EA2 adapter on my NEX. I get a F2.8 with PDAF autofocus and OIS at 225mm EFL. This is something you cannot do on M43.
The advantage of M43 is not lenses IMHO. It's very good quality for weight, but NEX is still more flexible
ageha
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lol, that made my day.
lol, that made my day.
It's true. Sheer number of lenses doesn't mean all are good lenses. Only the more recent M43 lenses have been very good and only the OMD/EPL5 sensor is acceptable to me. Before the OMD, the compromise was significant.
I had both the OMD and Nex-7 previously and if coming from the perspective of which camera i missed more after having sold them both, it has to be the OMD!
General usage and additional functions aside, i think its probably worth a think about which company continues to support the camera in terms of firmware release etc to further improve the camera as well as post sale service!
Also, I feel that micro4third is now a fully established system and will continue to be. I'm not too sure about Nex-7 or Nex-6 to be honest though, esp with the full frame Nex (?) in the rumoured pipeline!
General usage and additional functions aside, i think its probably worth a think about which company continues to support the camera in terms of firmware release etc to further improve the camera as well as post sale service!
Also, I feel that micro4third is now a fully established system and will continue to be. I'm not too sure about Nex-7 or Nex-6 to be honest though, esp with the full frame Nex (?) in the rumoured pipeline!
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For the nex I have the 18-55 kit lens, sigma 30mm, 18-200, cz 24 1.8 and the macro 30mm 3.5. The lens thats on the camera most of the time is the macro 30mm since i got it.
Its a great focal length as an everyday lens and with macro you can get some interesting perspectives. Not the best pictures but having lots of fun with it and the family.
Image taken by 7 yr old daughter
Took this subsequently
Son's glasses
Its a great focal length as an everyday lens and with macro you can get some interesting perspectives. Not the best pictures but having lots of fun with it and the family.
Image taken by 7 yr old daughter
Took this subsequently
Son's glasses
I own both cameras. The OMD is the best camera among m4/3. Very fast AF, good ISO performance and has an established lens system.
Having said that , I use nex7 mainly. The tri navi controls, ergonomics , larger sensor and higher resolution suits my purpose very well.
If one is choosing a camera system for the first time, in my opinion, either camera is good. The rest is just preferences and other practical issues.
Fullframe NEX will not undermine the current NEX system. Sony can well afford to support ff and apsc NEX , but until they can successfully develop smaller lenses package for NEX without LEA3 adapter, Fullframe nex remains very much an ideal and prototype.
NEX is gathering stronger momentum by the day. I cannot imagine how the sys may not continue to be an established system. The lenses support will increase significantly with the new lenses announced by Sony , Zeiss and other third party manufacturers.
The growth of NEX doesnt mean that M4/3 will be displaced. I believed the market is large enough for different offerings from other brands.
Having said that , I use nex7 mainly. The tri navi controls, ergonomics , larger sensor and higher resolution suits my purpose very well.
If one is choosing a camera system for the first time, in my opinion, either camera is good. The rest is just preferences and other practical issues.
Fullframe NEX will not undermine the current NEX system. Sony can well afford to support ff and apsc NEX , but until they can successfully develop smaller lenses package for NEX without LEA3 adapter, Fullframe nex remains very much an ideal and prototype.
NEX is gathering stronger momentum by the day. I cannot imagine how the sys may not continue to be an established system. The lenses support will increase significantly with the new lenses announced by Sony , Zeiss and other third party manufacturers.
The growth of NEX doesnt mean that M4/3 will be displaced. I believed the market is large enough for different offerings from other brands.
