Sony NEX 5 a micro 43?


I tried the Nex 5 briefly during a roadshow and found the manual controls troublesome. If I recall right, I had to go through menus just to change iso, shutter and aperture. So as a more advanced camera, the Nex 5 might not be the best solution. I own a GF1 and the controls are much easier to use.
 

wah! selamatlzh, first time see you here, as the saying goes "bigger doesn't necessary mean better" :D
 

Although the Sony has some neat tricks (panarama...HDR..ETC)...These following detractors keep me from buying one.

A. :(non standard (read useless) flash attachment. Try using one in the studio!

B. :(much larger lenses (read heavy)

I love M4/3!

I love the fact that my M4/3 kit can basically accomplish anything my full blown DSLR's can do!;)
 

Although the Sony has some neat tricks (panarama...HDR..ETC)...These following detractors keep me from buying one.

A. :(non standard (read useless) flash attachment. Try using one in the studio!

B. :(much larger lenses (read heavy)

I love M4/3!

I love the fact that my M4/3 kit can basically accomplish anything my full blown DSLR's can do!;)

what M4/3 kit are u using now?
 

Ep1 and E pl1...with several lenses and some adapters (for Nik, Can fd and M mt), flash, etc. The new e pl2 interests me as well.;)

Cheers
 

Depends on what you are looking for.

The Sony has an aps-c sensor and is capable up to iso3200.
The E-PL2 is capable up to iso1600. That is a 1 stop difference between them.

The drawback on the nex is that there are no fast lenses available.
Hence for lowlight an E-PL2 with the 20mm 1.7 will out perform the nex by about 1 to 2 stops depending on which iso setting u are comparing to.

Bear in mind that the IQ of E-PL2 + 20mm 1.7 at iso800 will be much better than the nex at iso3200 for equiv exposure with regards to dynamic range, noise and details.

If you prefer to zoom most of the time, the nex will be a better choice.

As for bokeh, aps-c will have an upperhand. However due to the limitation of nex lenses (no big aperture lens) Both are quite comparable if lens type are taken into consideration.
 

Depends on what you are looking for.

The Sony has an aps-c sensor and is capable up to iso3200.
The E-PL2 is capable up to iso1600. That is a 1 stop difference between them.

The drawback on the nex is that there are no fast lenses available.
Hence for lowlight an E-PL2 with the 20mm 1.7 will out perform the nex by about 1 to 2 stops depending on which iso setting u are comparing to.

Bear in mind that the IQ of E-PL2 + 20mm 1.7 at iso800 will be much better than the nex at iso3200 for equiv exposure with regards to dynamic range, noise and details.

If you prefer to zoom most of the time, the nex will be a better choice.

As for bokeh, aps-c will have an upperhand. However due to the limitation of nex lenses (no big aperture lens) Both are quite comparable if lens type are taken into consideration.

nicely put. it's good to look into practical usage than specs alone
 

Can u share some pics of EPl1 + 20mm F/1.7 night shots?
 

Agetan said:
As many have mentioned, NEX is a APS-C DSLR in small form hence have larger sensor than m4/3.

I shoot primarily RAW even on NEX. I must admit the jpeg is not as good as RAW but I have never like the jpg files from any camera just yet. It tend to somewhat "flat" in comparison as compared to RAW.

On contrary, I do find all 3 lenses from Sony for NEX are quite decent.

For portrait lens, I usually use old minolta Rokkor lenses via adaptor on NEX and it works really well, even though manual focus is the only option.

NEX compliment my shooting style pretty well so it is a main stay for me.

I shoot with my thumb while holding the nex plus lens with 2 hands and it works well for small camera.

Anyway... My priority is always the sensor size for max IQ.

Here is my blog entry using NEX 5 with minolta 50mm f1.2 and 85mm f1.7 rokkor lens
http://www.tomato.sg/blog/?p=116

Here is another entry with either kit lenses for NEX and a few using A850.
http://www.tomato.sg/blog/?p=1045

Regards,

Hart

Nice pic of your son doing car detailing after playing in the sand. Btw how much are the minolta and rokkor lens with adapter?
 

Most DSLR use the APS-C sized sensor which is slightly smaller than Fullframe (the diginal equivalent to 35mm film). Sony NEX and Samsung NX also use the same sensor size.
Olympus/Panasonic chose to use a smaller sensor instead called the four-thirds (4/3) standard. Both the m4/3 and 4/3 use the same 4/3 sensor. The difference between m4/3 and 4/3 is the m4/3 does not use a mirror box (mirrorless), i.e. is is not an SLR system, hence it is smaller.

Because the 4/3 sensor is smaller, it can use smaller lenses and a smaller body, so technically if Oly (and Panny too) has taken advantage of this, their cameras can be smaller and thinner than the NEX (which is currently the smallest DSLR-class camera in the world. Forget about panasonic's GF2 advert. They claim to be the smallest DSLR camera with built-in flash. Marketing gimmick).

The reason why the EPL2 is so big is because Oly packed everything including built-in flash and hot shoe etc into the package. NEX on the other hand give you a portable and elegant external flash system that can be removed when not needed. Their included belt strap came with an attached box to keep it which is real cool.

Apart from EPL2/EP2, which I called the "DSLR-lite" or "DSLR-wannabe" class, I think there is scope for Oly to look into an even lower end market "The premium PnS" class where Sony has positioned the NEX. With smaller sensor, they can offer an even smaller body than the NEX. Take out the non-essential stuff like hot shoe, and swivel LCD and what they can provide would be DSLR-like performance in the body of an LX5. This will make sense to all those auntie and uncles who want quality photos from a PnS without the complexity to mess with aperture, iso, etc. :)
 

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airconvent said:
Most DSLR use the APS-C sized sensor which is slightly smaller than Fullframe (the diginal equivalent to 35mm film). Sony NEX and Samsung NX also use the same sensor size.
Olympus/Panasonic chose to use a smaller sensor instead called the four-thirds (4/3) standard. Both the m4/3 and 4/3 use the same 4/3 sensor. The difference between m4/3 and 4/3 is the m4/3 does not use a mirror box (mirrorless), i.e. is is not an SLR system, hence it is smaller.

Because the 4/3 sensor is smaller, it can use smaller lenses and a smaller body, so technically if Oly (and Panny too) has taken advantage of this, their cameras can be smaller and thinner than the NEX (which is currently the smallest DSLR-class camera in the world. Forget about panasonic's GF2 advert. They claim to be the smallest DSLR camera with built-in flash. Marketing gimmick).

The reason why the EPL2 is so big is because Oly packed everything including built-in flash and hot shoe etc into the package. NEX on the other hand give you a portable and elegant external flash system that can be removed when not needed. Their included belt strap came with an attached box to keep it which is real cool.

Apart from EPL2/EP2, which I called the "DSLR-lite" or "DSLR-wannabe" class, I think there is scope for Oly to look into an even lower end market "The premium PnS" class where Sony has positioned the NEX. With smaller sensor, they can offer an even smaller body than the NEX. Take out the non-essential stuff like hot shoe, and swivel LCD and what they can provide would be DSLR-like performance in the body of an LX5. This will make sense to all those auntie and uncles who want quality photos from a PnS without the complexity to mess with aperture, iso, etc. :)

Not forgetting Olympus has built in body stabilisation which is the only evil cameras that has it, so body will be bigger.
 

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