verselines
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Maybe he means focus first, then recompose...but you got to make sure you don't step forward/backward...just side to side :think:
Some thoughts on RF after first round of shooting
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Maybe he means focus first, then recompose...but you got to make sure you don't step forward/backward...just side to side :think:
verselines
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Yeah still working on it. Sometimes when I want to shoot at 'hip level angle' by squatting down it's even more obvious. ><
third3rdwheel
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I am a newbie too. It is not time consuming to use the film version. I shoot with the MP and can get my colour film processed and scanned onto a disk within 1-2 hours.
DSLRs and RFs are meant for different purposes. If you need to shoot fast action, nature (such as birds), macro, you will need a DSLR with the correct lens. RF is better for portrait and streets scenes.
I have a basic Nikon D80 with some FX lenses - a legacy from my D700 days.
Shot with my Leica MP, with Noctilux lens. Just two ordinary shots. Of course, a zoom lens with DSLR would be better for the first shot:
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Wow looks like there are many who are jumping into RF too.
I just started 3 months ago with a Konica S2, & I got to say I am loving every bit of it.
But when I first brought it out for shoot, it is really big and really attention grabbing,I think it is because people are used to all the DSLRs and when you suddenly turn up with a rangefinder, they will be like wah. Its new to them and they haven seen one before.( I even got chicks commenting how cool my S2 was
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But after some time, you got to learn to blend into the crowd and raising your cam to take a shot becomes naturally and people won't notice you. Even if ppl notice you, its okay cause you can then make a connection with the subject.
Shooting with a film RF, I agree its an art form cause it requires you to think a lot more before you shoot and its hell lot of fun. But I still miss the instant feedback to see whether your pics turn out alright but I guess it good training cause you will feel more pain that you miss it and you will learn better. I don't know whether it applies to the digital rangefinders too?
Overall, I am glad I got the S2 although I wanted to sell it off after only one day with it cause I felt its not what I wanted. However, it sort of grows on you each time you bring it out to shoot. Loving it :lovegrin:
I just started 3 months ago with a Konica S2, & I got to say I am loving every bit of it.
But when I first brought it out for shoot, it is really big and really attention grabbing,I think it is because people are used to all the DSLRs and when you suddenly turn up with a rangefinder, they will be like wah. Its new to them and they haven seen one before.( I even got chicks commenting how cool my S2 was
)But after some time, you got to learn to blend into the crowd and raising your cam to take a shot becomes naturally and people won't notice you. Even if ppl notice you, its okay cause you can then make a connection with the subject.
Shooting with a film RF, I agree its an art form cause it requires you to think a lot more before you shoot and its hell lot of fun. But I still miss the instant feedback to see whether your pics turn out alright but I guess it good training cause you will feel more pain that you miss it and you will learn better. I don't know whether it applies to the digital rangefinders too?
Overall, I am glad I got the S2 although I wanted to sell it off after only one day with it cause I felt its not what I wanted. However, it sort of grows on you each time you bring it out to shoot. Loving it :lovegrin:
so no one here using flash? Cos i am thinking of using a small manual flash in case i need to fill light a little bit. Of course not for street, but maybe for friend portrait....
talking about attention grabbing, I love how small my first rf is, it s a IIIf, very small and nice, ppl almost don't think i am holding a camera. Because it doesn't have a meter, so you need to change speed/aperture before hand, and maybe set focusing distance also. The moment you bring it to eye level, just press the shutter only, very fast.
talking about attention grabbing, I love how small my first rf is, it s a IIIf, very small and nice, ppl almost don't think i am holding a camera. Because it doesn't have a meter, so you need to change speed/aperture before hand, and maybe set focusing distance also. The moment you bring it to eye level, just press the shutter only, very fast.
third3rdwheel
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If I am not wrong, most RF users do not use flash....
Actually it really depends on situation. If do u use flash, Get one that u can bounce from ceiling, set to f5.6 and 1/60 or 1/125 depend on your highest sync speed, good for shots for mother-in-laws where u don't want your wife keep questioning u why u make her mum look so blur... And to justify your Leica investment is well worth the money.
But for kids, best use a noctilux... U don't want them to wear glasses too young as a result of exposing to too much flash.
I have a small compact Leica CF flash but it doesn't bounce. Tried a few times and find it a bit too rashed. RF to me is for low-light photography.
hahaha....thats a gem chiif, now we know how you feel about your MIL...wide open poisoning again huh....you got one to sell, I buy...:bsmilie:
Me don't sell Noctilux. Me only sell Nokton. But you already have the f1.1 and have been using it to it's fullest potential...
Just some suggestions... Never use a flash direct. Those that don't allow you to bounce from ceiling, better don't buy, even if it starts with a L.
Using a flash direct is just like using a built-in flash from a PnS digital camera. Make human look like a ghost. :bsmilie:
I know bro.. Mine's free with my M8.
Personally, I will not buy a flash for my Leica. Think this one was originally meant for a digilux. This guy, Bruce Gilden uses flash exclusively for his street photography. A bit too much "in-your-face" for me.
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i own a flash also, came together with my hexar. i've recently (own for so long but never touch) used it for a few shots. ozawa, i'll post them for you to see when i finish the roll
lol, thanks, I got a sb30 on the mail, will try it and see how, small enough and got manual mode.
@chiif: actually i think if just use flash to fill in strong back-light situation (mostly outdoor) still ok, no need to bouce
, rf is all the fast lenses, but in this case fast lenses not helping...
rageon09
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Speaking of flash... I have a very very old manual Minolta flash that I use from time to time. Got it for only $20 so just for fun and try out. Found it useful for: 1) taking ppl at very dark party spots and 2) at the beach when the subject is backlit. Not really useful for other types of shots I think.
But I have some questions, I don't mind getting a small flash that can bounce but most flash I see are huge and they often make a RF camera so unbalanced and looks funny. Are there small ones around with basic bounce capabilities? I also noticed that 3rd party flash sometimes have specs that says Canon mount or Nikon mount... i thought a hotshoe is quite standard?
But I have some questions, I don't mind getting a small flash that can bounce but most flash I see are huge and they often make a RF camera so unbalanced and looks funny. Are there small ones around with basic bounce capabilities? I also noticed that 3rd party flash sometimes have specs that says Canon mount or Nikon mount... i thought a hotshoe is quite standard?
Same here. I just jumped to RF with 35 GSN, and well pleased with the result..
Still need more practice and figure out how to bring out the best of this camera. The only gripe i have is apperture priority, and leave the shutter at the mercy of the GSN...:sweat:
Royale With Cheese
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Royale With Cheese
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Hmmm.. Maybe can try this Sunpak flash? Looks quite compact:
http://www.sunpak.jp/english/products/rd2000/index.html
I took this shot with my Bessa R3A accompanied with flash:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/agnosticgary/3700501283/
Film was Kodak BW400CN
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flipfreak
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still not convinced abt sacrificing good iq for convenience yet. why did u pick the kodak?
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