philliptan said:Our F-5s are already very powerful after the upgrade 2 years ago. Some of the upgrades are sooo classified even some of the technicians are not allowed to know.![]()
F-5 are slowly being retired.
philliptan said:Our F-5s are already very powerful after the upgrade 2 years ago. Some of the upgrades are sooo classified even some of the technicians are not allowed to know.![]()
LazerLordz said:We're in the same boat as the Swedish,Germans,Koreans,Israelis,Swiss and a few more places..![]()
Maybe its too much Hollywood and silly screaming shows that got to me. But I guess the general reaction of ppl who had never heard artillery boom, grenades exploding or gunfire would be to cover their ears (natural instinct), or to just drop everything and run.LazerLordz said:The nut crack part was hilarious.I'd agree, it's those fellas who have heard gunfire and learnt how to stay low and take cover, then plan and react, have the highest chance of being effective in a war zone.
Same goes for reporters and aid workers in war-torn areas, it's better if you had prior military training.
AEC said:F-15 Loses wing in mid-air collision - Lands safely by Israeli Air Force pilot.
http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/110099.html
Ren_Hao said:There used to be reasons to why the government buy things lah. I dont know much about aircraft, but i will prefer to ride to war in a "aluminium case" armed with a 99cm rifle in my hand than ride in a new case made from "composite" armour with a plastic rifle slinged to my neck..............![]()
Ok, off the track already, but i think leh, better proven equipment are slightly "better"
philliptan said:Wah! More military siaos!!
No need to talk abt F-15s.... Our F-5s are already very powerful after the upgrade 2 years ago. Some of the upgrades are sooo classified even some of the technicians are not allowed to know.(MSD is probably watching so I'm not saying anything)
The RMAF F-18s are not flying much because they cost too much to operate. The country north of border want to show off but the operational/maintenance costs is really very high. It was a bad idea from the beginning. To have Russian and American hardware in a single air force is VERY costly. They have to maintain two different logistics systems instead of one... Eg, you need to get two types of missiles/ordance/equipment because they're not compatible with each other.
Singapore is smart. They buy American fighters... so AMRAAMs/AIMs/Sparrows can be used across the entire range of F-15/F-16/F-5s. GPU/ASUs (Ground Power Units/Air Start Units) are all compatible. No problems there. Smart? You bet.
Ren_Hao said:There used to be reasons to why the government buy things lah. I dont know much about aircraft, but i will prefer to ride to war in a "aluminium case" armed with a 99cm rifle in my hand than ride in a new case made from "composite" armour with a plastic rifle slinged to my neck..............![]()
Ok, off the track already, but i think leh, better proven equipment are slightly "better"
p4610yz said:Yes the SAR21 is not totally perfect...no rifle is totally perfect... but it is better than running in the urban which is Singapore with a long rifle and reducing ur manuvourability right... unless singapore gives every soldier a carbine then i really nothing to say larh..
haha.
jsbn said:Maybe its too much Hollywood and silly screaming shows that got to me. But I guess the general reaction of ppl who had never heard artillery boom, grenades exploding or gunfire would be to cover their ears (natural instinct), or to just drop everything and run.
Well, at least that's what almost happened to me when I threw my first grenade & handled blanks for the first time. Nearly froze on the spot. I wasn't garang enuff, and got luffed at for having 'no balls'.
But got used to the boom and bang gradually. I guess its just a matter of getting used to it where the training gets to u instead of the natural 'flee or fight' thing.
The F-5s have another 10-15 years in the force, so they are not being retired. After upgrading the entire fleet 2 years ago, I don't think they're gonna retire them so soon especially since the upgrade was to extend their service life. Believe me, some of the classified upgrades are very advanced technology and it will be a waste of money to retire them so soon after.evq said:F-5 are slowly being retired.
hwchoy said:once a thai colleague told me, their division went for some team-building seminar which included paintball. of all the people taking part, you can straightaway tell the Singaporeans and Taiwanese, they're the ones who know how to take cover properly hahaha.
just being curious....why did the RSAF actually choose the F-5s in the first place?:dunno: (not saying that its nt gd...just askin)philliptan said:The RF-5s were sold because the technology was out-dated. Not because of the airframe hours. Each RF has clocked around 3,000-3,500 hrs when the rest of the F-5s were into the 4,000plus hours. Yet they were sold first. That's because we were still using 1960s film technology when the rest of the world is now in the digital stage. A simple pod on the F-16 can do better than the bulky cameras on the plane. It's also very expensive to develop those large format films. The whole world is abandoning film (except for some traditionalists) and even the Air Force is following suit.
Coincidentally, I'm a reservist for the RF-5 squadron (141SQN) but after the RF-5s are sold, the squadron will be disbanded on Mar 31, 2006. Wonder where I'll go then. Really sad, cos there are only 28 RF-5s in the whole world. Being a qualified DCC for the RF-5 is a rare thing. LOL. Oooo... I feel so special... :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
The F-5s have another 10-15 years in the force, so they are not being retired. After upgrading the entire fleet 2 years ago, I don't think they're gonna retire them so soon especially since the upgrade was to extend their service life. Believe me, some of the classified upgrades are very advanced technology and it will be a waste of money to retire them so soon after.
JediForce4ever said:just being curious....why did the RSAF actually choose the F-5s in the first place?:dunno: (not saying that its nt gd...just askin)
Lensman said:I am surprised that our neighbour in the immediate north of Singapore, did not make noise about "sensitivity" or "projection of military powers" like when we had our submarine and E2C....
BTW, I tot they have the F18s. Never see them fly anyway leh.. or perhaps I did not tune to their national day parade.
Lensman said:I am surprised that our neighbour in the immediate north of Singapore, did not make noise about "sensitivity" or "projection of military powers" like when we had our submarine and E2C....
BTW, I tot they have the F18s. Never see them fly anyway leh.. or perhaps I did not tune to their national day parade.
I tot they already took delivery of the F/A-18?AEC said:Other orders include 18 units Flanker (Su-30MKM) and 18 units F/A-18E/F Super Hornet Jet Fighters. However, the Super Hornets deal has yet to be confirmed.
evq said:I tot they already took delivery of the F/A-18?
And 2 of which crashed. Correct me if I'm wrong.