Shutter cycle of 100K++ for Canon 30D. Then what's next?
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Stratix
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hey, since we're at it, can anyone tell me what will happen if the shutter counts are getting too high, and thus degrading?
do you get plain err99 messages, or, degrading picture quality (noise, etc etc) or the shutter just get a heart attack (open liao refuses to close)
hmm, i'm starting to worry with my 300D, cos i've been a heavy user and it had clocked about 25 to 30K liaos...
do you get plain err99 messages, or, degrading picture quality (noise, etc etc) or the shutter just get a heart attack (open liao refuses to close)
hmm, i'm starting to worry with my 300D, cos i've been a heavy user and it had clocked about 25 to 30K liaos...
There are a lot of factors affecting accuracy of a shutter as well as the shutter life span. As mention already, the count is a guide for optimum performance. Just like our food expiry date, reputable manufacturers will usually state the expiry date for a normal to worst storing situation. In normal to good storaging condition, its in fact, still ok to consume the food. But that does not means that it is at its best performance after the QC stipulated date.
I agree and understand the poster that the shutter count is a concern, at least to working pros or people who shoot heavily. This is especially true for digital bodies, you tend to over shoot and delete. Take film camera for eg, when I purchase my 1v many years back, I paid about 1.5 times more over the EOS 3 because there is an obvious improvement over the lifespan (i.e shutter), features, functions as well as reliability. I've been shooting over hundreds of thousands and my 1v still works like a charm, never fails no error message whatsoever.
For digital, its another story. The idea of upgrading bodies is rather a pushy one. Back in analogue and film times, upgrading a film body is not that significant as compared to a digital one. The hassle of changing of the feel and learning, habitual curve usually render a new purchase difficult. This is especially so if you are a working pro. That is why all the 1 series in EOS are all so similar. For that, you have to give Canon credit.
Every new digital model is coupled with new and better technology features that helps users hence an upgrade is a significant one. A film body from 1980 or 2000 does not make too much of a difference. Its still the film that will be exposured and the quality of the image are usually improved based primarily on the human than the camera.
When the 20D is launched, my first leisure oversea trip ended near 2k pics plus many more deleted throughout the trip. Given the leisure user, if every trip ends up this count, I will still be ok for many years to come. Usually my film trip near 1-1.5k. Its about 50-100% more.
The incentive and technological push factor is much more worthwhile investing in digital than film hence I would believe that many will most likely sell or throw their old bodies aside while embracing the more expensive and fancy bodies in time to come. However, as a leisure user, temptation seems to be the only push factor to body upgrades. Also mention somewhere, unless you broke your shutter count, a leisure user don't really need to worry too much about the lifespan and workability of 1. Just like handphones, everyone is trading in and throwing old phones aside when newer models comes in. Little do we know that 90% of us just wanted to call and receive phone calls with a huge load of features not used at all.
Time is different now, a D30 and a 30D makes a hell of difference. Would you still use your D30 in 2010 if a 3D is out with affordable price tag? Think again....A leisure user usually have a choice, because there is no buyer pushing you for better output. Our husbands or wives never scold us for not producing a 10megapixel portriats. So don't worry too much about the lifespans of a body, when its time to change, you will find a reason to do that. It also works better to tell your wife/husband that you want to replace than to upgrade.
I agree and understand the poster that the shutter count is a concern, at least to working pros or people who shoot heavily. This is especially true for digital bodies, you tend to over shoot and delete. Take film camera for eg, when I purchase my 1v many years back, I paid about 1.5 times more over the EOS 3 because there is an obvious improvement over the lifespan (i.e shutter), features, functions as well as reliability. I've been shooting over hundreds of thousands and my 1v still works like a charm, never fails no error message whatsoever.
For digital, its another story. The idea of upgrading bodies is rather a pushy one. Back in analogue and film times, upgrading a film body is not that significant as compared to a digital one. The hassle of changing of the feel and learning, habitual curve usually render a new purchase difficult. This is especially so if you are a working pro. That is why all the 1 series in EOS are all so similar. For that, you have to give Canon credit.
Every new digital model is coupled with new and better technology features that helps users hence an upgrade is a significant one. A film body from 1980 or 2000 does not make too much of a difference. Its still the film that will be exposured and the quality of the image are usually improved based primarily on the human than the camera.
When the 20D is launched, my first leisure oversea trip ended near 2k pics plus many more deleted throughout the trip. Given the leisure user, if every trip ends up this count, I will still be ok for many years to come. Usually my film trip near 1-1.5k. Its about 50-100% more.
The incentive and technological push factor is much more worthwhile investing in digital than film hence I would believe that many will most likely sell or throw their old bodies aside while embracing the more expensive and fancy bodies in time to come. However, as a leisure user, temptation seems to be the only push factor to body upgrades. Also mention somewhere, unless you broke your shutter count, a leisure user don't really need to worry too much about the lifespan and workability of 1. Just like handphones, everyone is trading in and throwing old phones aside when newer models comes in. Little do we know that 90% of us just wanted to call and receive phone calls with a huge load of features not used at all.
Time is different now, a D30 and a 30D makes a hell of difference. Would you still use your D30 in 2010 if a 3D is out with affordable price tag? Think again....A leisure user usually have a choice, because there is no buyer pushing you for better output. Our husbands or wives never scold us for not producing a 10megapixel portriats. So don't worry too much about the lifespans of a body, when its time to change, you will find a reason to do that. It also works better to tell your wife/husband that you want to replace than to upgrade.
studiolabmaster
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don't worry.just shoot...ii got a friend which own a 300d and he hit 500 000 shutters and still going strong,but he replace a new shutter cos he worried the cam died!!!
also another friend shutter 1million on a 1ds and got it replace for free!!!
this two fellow really made full use of the cam......those people who buy their camera will be damn suay cos......they are heavy users...luckily they are not in the CS :bsmilie:
why?i don't dare to let them know this forum...if not most of us will be buying from them.
so,it really depend on your individual luck and of course how u use it!!!if u always shoot in low speed with continuios shuter...it may not last long....:bigeyes:
just my two sense
also another friend shutter 1million on a 1ds and got it replace for free!!!
this two fellow really made full use of the cam......those people who buy their camera will be damn suay cos......they are heavy users...luckily they are not in the CS :bsmilie:
why?i don't dare to let them know this forum...if not most of us will be buying from them.
so,it really depend on your individual luck and of course how u use it!!!if u always shoot in low speed with continuios shuter...it may not last long....:bigeyes:
just my two sense
spartacus.ret
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heng ahstudiolabmaster said:don't worry.just shoot...ii got a friend which own a 300d and he hit 500 000 shutters and still going strong,but he replace a new shutter cos he worried the cam died!!!
also another friend shutter 1million on a 1ds and got it replace for free!!!
this two fellow really made full use of the cam......those people who buy their camera will be damn suay cos......they are heavy users...luckily they are not in the CS :bsmilie:
why?i don't dare to let them know this forum...if not most of us will be buying from them.
so,it really depend on your individual luck and of course how u use it!!!if u always shoot in low speed with continuios shuter...it may not last long....:bigeyes:
just my two sense
frostyIntrepid
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rickygck said:
refer to post #16.
JediForce4ever
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sometimes, I wonder if Canon is associated with the gov.rickygck said:
everything also Pay And Pay....
lens hood for non-L; pay!
sensor cleaning within warranty peroid; pay!
check shutter count; pay!
;p :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
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