Shooting in RAW

[Yatlapball]

Yes I shoot in RAW.

But currently with a very inefficient workflow Import via iPhoto -> Preview and delete all but the keepers -> Adobe Camera Raw -> Adjust whatever that is needed -> Further adjustments in PS -> Save in PSD -> Export as JPEG Max for printing or Med for web

NEF and PSD burned onto CD.

(I think I may just get Capture NX to streamline the workflow if/when I get my new system. Current one too slow... :bsmilie: )

 

[wobbly]

i honestly dont know if capturenx is that much better than or even close to photoshop.
i have a fairly decent system - i use it for much harder production work [3d for example] and i find capture nx is very very sluggish, and i seem to be ok with producing similar results in half the time and half the heartache in photoshop.
the so-called benefit of retaining the header information from the in-camera settings seems to be a fairly moot point since i'm forever tweaking files post-dump in one way or another anyway.
otoh, i need to be constantly in photoshop anyway since its used as an industry standard in all of my other workflows [video/web/tv production].

 

[Snowcrash]

I don't think memory is an excuse. I am more put off by the workflow. I admit I'm too lazy. hahaha..

So what workflow are you using currently with jpeg?

I shoot more raw now reason being I can maintain 1 file (after convert to DNG) without worrying the crop/ colour changes I do in Adobe Camera RAW. The jpeg preview will show my latest edits and it's reversible.

I used to shoot jpeg and have to keep track of which jpeg sizes/post possess done and have to keep multiple files of the same image.

For a good read - www.thedambook.com

 

[nicekit]

I am using a 10.2Mp cam

2 gig card will give me approx 200 shots (plus/minus) A good thing for me to conserve shots as well, make me compose better and think more about each shots (getting to be thinking back to film days too)

As for archiving, 2 full 2 gig cards would fill 1 DVD rom, so... why not.

i was wondering.. if you compose better and think more about each shots.. then why u need RAW for? JPEG almost the same result without alteration in the RAW .. right?

darling... if like that i will end up ALOT of DVDs!!
i already have tons of DVDs containing anime and tv series... now photographs for each event i attend to..
;o

 

[nicekit]

Just one extra step only.... :nono:

And it can recover some of the details which may be lost in Jpeg due to the compression.

actually it is more than 1 steps leh
somemore slow..

 

[wildstallion]

Get it right first time, jpeg is perfectly fine, however, for key shots, id probably use RAW just for that safety barrier and its versatility, or when im doing studio shots and require the highest possible quality.

 

[zac08]

actually it is more than 1 steps leh
somemore slow..

Well... to me, it's only an extra step of conversion into a JPEG. But this extra step allows for loads of correction in terms of white balance, exposure and controls.

I use Photoshop Elements 4 and when shooting RAW like this, I generally do not have to fiddle too much after I convert the pics.

 

[vanadium]

Hi,

I am beginning to learn shooting RAW too, on my D80.
I have a question: do you guys do anything setting on the cam before shooting RAW?
Eg. in optimize image setting, one can select custom setting in image sharpening, tone compensation, color mode, saturation etc..... or just leave everything as normal and do the necessary stuff during PP?

Hope you guys can share your expereince. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers!

 

[zac08]

Hi,

I am beginning to learn shooting RAW too, on my D80.
I have a question: do you guys do anything setting on the cam before shooting RAW?
Eg. in optimize image setting, one can select custom setting in image sharpening, tone compensation, color mode, saturation etc..... or just leave everything as normal and do the necessary stuff during PP?

Hope you guys can share your expereince. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers!

It depends on your choice of usage.

Some would advise on sRGB for web usage and AdobeRGB for print. Colour modes would also depend on your usage. I believe some have mentioned that Mode III may be a lil too saturated for some in portraits and some may prefer Mode I.

The camera saturation can be normal or saturated as your choice, same for the sharpening. You can still control it on the PP process.

 

[nicekit]

Get it right first time, jpeg is perfectly fine, however, for key shots, id probably use RAW just for that safety barrier and its versatility, or when im doing studio shots and require the highest possible quality.

this one i guess justify the reason where u need RAW

the highest image quality which i agree

 

[nicekit]

Well... to me, it's only an extra step of conversion into a JPEG. But this extra step allows for loads of correction in terms of white balance, exposure and controls.

I use Photoshop Elements 4 and when shooting RAW like this, I generally do not have to fiddle too much after I convert the pics.

i will try RAW again via Photoshop Elements...
Capture NX is kinda very complicated

 

[zac08]

i will try RAW again via Photoshop Elements...
Capture NX is kinda very complicated

Huh?

I tried the NX too.. Really fun tool to use. The control points were really good for controls. Try it out slowly.

 

[nicekit]

HELP!!!!

i tried some RAW shooting yesterday

why my RAW have more artifacts than my fine JPEG?
:O

help!

 

[nicekit]

Ermmm

i realized
the artifacts only happen in Photoshop Elements
and not in Capture NX

why ah? the camera raw import file is the latest from adobe.com

:O

capture nx is too slow on my computer

 

[ExplorerZ]

HELP!!!!

i tried some RAW shooting yesterday

why my RAW have more artifacts than my fine JPEG?
:O

help!

might want to look at this... photoshop elements shouldn't be that much different from photoshop CS2 iirc.
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=246295

 

[nicekit]

might want to look at this... photoshop elements shouldn't be that much different from photoshop CS2 iirc.
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=246295

doesnt work properly....
still alot of noise when i use Elements to convert the RAW....

luminance noise.. i go from 0 to 100 ...
0 *very noisy*
100 *still noisy but lesser*

there's no blue saturation in the Photoshop elements setting...

sian...

 

[ioriroger]

yup! i shoot in raw too. if i can get it right on my cam then no need to shoot raw lor(but most of the time i cant)..hehehe
coz i always shoot in the hurry, so i keep it in raw format, adjust the exposure & white balane later...hahaha.i also not a experiene photograper. somemore i only know photoshop more than DSLR.hahaha!;p

for some ppl they learn to shoot first, then get to know photoshop later...but i opesite.:bsmilie:


Oh! man! i just cant live without photoshop.:bsmilie:

 

[nicekit]

yup! i shoot in raw too. if i can get it right on my cam then no need to shoot raw lor(but most of the time i cant)..hehehe
coz i always shoot in the hurry, so i keep it in raw format, adjust the exposure & white balane later...hahaha.i also not a experiene photograper. somemore i only know photoshop more than DSLR.hahaha!;p

for some ppl they learn to shoot first, then get to know photoshop later...but i opesite.:bsmilie:


Oh! man! i just cant live without photoshop.:bsmilie:

are u using a nikon D80?
does ur RAW format have alot of noise in photoshop?

Thx

 

[hkdigit]

what's is DAM then?

Sorry for typo, It should be DIM instead

DIM: Digital Image Mover
http://www.alanlight.com/dim/Dim.htm

 

[janshim]

Hi Guys..

for those that bought December 2006 issue of Popular Photography mag.
You will read about a section ....
Why aren't you shooting RAW?

RAW or JPEG, Canon or Nikon, PC or Mac if that's not enough, there's Dual Core or Core 2 Duo ... faint!

Shoot what works for you, don't go shoot RAW just because a magazine or a friend challenges you to. I write from personal experience as a professional photographer I shoot JPEG exclusively. From time to time, I have switched to RAW + Large JPEG thinking I might need the famed "extra exposure latitude" or "adjustable White Balance" benefit but as it always turned out, I post processed the JPEG and still get what I wanted. I always make a second copy of the JPEG files to work on ... and they still have a smaller footprint than I would with RAW.

Stop kidding yourself. Cheap storage isn't an incentive to shoot RAW. Cost of hard drives and large CF cards were not my deterrent, time is. I am a PC power user and have a Dell P4 3.0GHz Dual Core, 2GB 667MHz RAM, 3xSATA-II drives and 3xIDE drives in USB Enclosure and despite the "modern" hardware availability, I've found RAW workflow to be too time consuming, especially with the volume of images I work with. The best JPEG workflow app is ACDSee Pro when you have dual monitors (I work with 19" + 24" LCD) and I zip through 1000 JPEG images fairly easily. For editing, I use Paint Shop Pro 9 with a number of customised photoshop plugins and this too runs fast on my PC. I would require some significant investment in latest Core 2 Duo hardware or switch to Mac just so I can run RAW conversion at the same speed I process my JPEGs now.

Apparently I am not alone here. Other professional photographers share the same opinion and have completely dropped RAW because we just aren't getting enough hours in a day juggling work and family time. For what is worth, I have also evaluated a popular RAW converter called Bibble Pro which also handles JPEG. This is one unique tool that packs a lot of features in one interface. Unfortunately, I have trouble adjusting to it and reverted to my usual workflow in my comfortable studio environment