Shall we ban...

[Voigtlander]

If I need someone's "bad" photos so that my photos will stand out, now that's ss...s...sad.

That is sad indeed! But there are photographers who are so insecure! ;p

 

[Kit]

shall we ban comments like "very nice photos!"

it doesn't help anything or anyone with comments like that, except to serve the egos of the thread poster.

what can we all learn from comments like "very nice photos!"

and then the poster goes on and take similarly weak pictures, post and get "very nice photos!" all over again.

i'm sorry to be so harsh but some people here ought be given a rough shake.
wake up! wake up!

if you like it, share with us why you like it.

This is an old dead dog, dug out, beaten to death again for god knows how many times. If that's what people are going to say, you can't really change it. You can however, train yourself to ignore it and move on. Move on.

 

[jsbn]

Pain is good! It makes you feel alive! Long live masochism! ;p

Pain = Alive = Means you'd not suffered enuff.

WHIP ME! For what's worth...
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=139119
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=139122

I'm waiting for some serious criticisms. Seems like everyone likes to see girls only. Den say 'chio ah' and leave it as dat. I oso noe they very chio (especially April and Nerissa), I not blind. But den I'm pretty blind to technical comments though.

UNBLOCK MY EYES!

 

[swingoutsister]

let me sum up my replies in one post


i'm not asking for people to post 'professional comments', ask 'newbies' to 'shut up and not post', nor use 'technical' terms to critique.

my post was aimed at creating awareness to raise the level of 'critcism' here from "very nice photos" to something..better than that. don't you all agree?

if we just "train ourselves to ignore it and move on" ... how do you expect people to gain and learn? what value will it offer to new people who join the forums?

can't we all try to contribute more? instead of 'moving on', ignoring the bad posts and fear of criticising them.

 

[swingoutsister]

i do not mince my words and here is my impression of the general population of clubsnap (based on the posts and comments i've read in the forums)

1) a gathering of techno geeks who are more interested in talking about gear and lenses

2) occasionally trying to engage in a pseudo-intellectual photography discussion before it generates into (see above)

3) chikopeks who try to legitimise their paparazzi shots of young girls by posting them here and labeling them as portraits or street shots. a gathering of sorts to organise such shoots.

4) photographers who shoot close-up and macro shots of household pests and bugs, common flowers and plants you find in well managed parks. and call themselves 'nature' photographers.

5) best and most useful part of the forums in my opinion .. buy and sell section.

i dont care if you agree with me or not. if you dont like what i said, just 'ignore it and move on'. it is a 'free' forum and you can't stop me from saying what i want, within the rules and regulations.

 

[espn]

6) People who think too highly of themselves and criticise others without criticising themselves.

 

[Sion]

i do not mince my words and here is my impression of the general population of clubsnap (based on the posts and comments i've read in the forums)

1) a gathering of techno geeks who are more interested in talking about gear and lenses

2) occasionally trying to engage in a pseudo-intellectual photography discussion before it generates into (see above)

3) chikopeks who try to legitimise their paparazzi shots of young girls by posting them here and labeling them as portraits or street shots. a gathering of sorts to organise such shoots.

4) photographers who shoot close-up and macro shots of household pests and bugs, common flowers and plants you find in well managed parks. and call themselves 'nature' photographers.

5) best and most useful part of the forums in my opinion .. buy and sell section.

i dont care if you agree with me or not. if you dont like what i said, just 'ignore it and move on'. it is a 'free' forum and you can't stop me from saying what i want, within the rules and regulations.

Heheh, I think you miss out (6) which I belong:

6) The Kopitiam jokers who come to the club to raise a few laughs. They don't post photos much nor do they do much critical analysis of photos.

:sweatsm:

 

[Paul_Yeo]

i put nice photos bcos i dun want to offend the person :embrass:

 

[Kit]

let me sum up my replies in one post


i'm not asking for people to post 'professional comments', ask 'newbies' to 'shut up and not post', nor use 'technical' terms to critique.

my post was aimed at creating awareness to raise the level of 'critcism' here from "very nice photos" to something..better than that. don't you all agree?

if we just "train ourselves to ignore it and move on" ... how do you expect people to gain and learn? what value will it offer to new people who join the forums?

can't we all try to contribute more? instead of 'moving on', ignoring the bad posts and fear of criticising them.

I regret you felt this way but frankly, I never participate the forums with any expectations. Nobody is obliged to teach you anything even if you are a giving person. That's the fact. If you find that you don't benefit from any of those comments given, then you have to take the initiative to learn somewhere else. Talk to like minded people. What we are, we can't change. Who we are, changes forever. Bitching about it doesn't really work. Its been proven too many times.

 

[swingoutsister]

please do not add more 6), 7) 8) and so on to my list, as they do not represent my views. if you like, please start your own thread to continue.

6) People who think too highly of themselves and criticise others without criticising themselves.

i don't think it is a problem if criticisms are made in the right spirit, and not in disguised acrimony. regardless of whatever their personal appraisal of themselves are.

 

[Kit]

i dont care if you agree with me or not. if you dont like what i said, just 'ignore it and move on'. it is a 'free' forum and you can't stop me from saying what i want, within the rules and regulations.

Now if only you read that yourself......

 

[swingoutsister]

I regret you felt this way but frankly, I never participate the forums with any expectations. Nobody is obliged to teach you anything even if you are a giving person. That's the fact. If you find that you don't benefit from any of those comments given, then you have to take the initiative to learn somewhere else. Talk to like minded people. What we are, we can't change. Who we are, changes forever. Bitching about it doesn't really work. Its been proven too many times.

agree, no one asks to benefit from visiting (or trolling) forums.

but

disagree we should just ignore the situation just because you THINK you can't change it.

 

[espn]

please do not add more 6), 7) 8) and so on to my list, as they do not represent my views. if you like, please start your own thread to continue.




i don't think it is a problem if criticisms are made in the right spirit, and not in disguised acrimony. regardless of whatever their personal appraisal of themselves are.

i dont care if you agree with me or not. if you dont like what i said, just 'ignore it and move on'. it is a 'free' forum and you can't stop me from saying what i want, within the rules and regulations.

Well........

 

[Kit]

agree, no one asks to benefit from visiting (or trolling) forums.

but

disagree we should just ignore the situation just because you THINK you can't change it.

As mentioned before, at times it doesn't pay to try to change the situation. Changing yourself to suit it might be a better way out.

 

[RossChang]

...i don't think it is a problem if criticisms are made in the right spirit, and not in disguised acrimony. regardless of whatever their personal appraisal of themselves are...

And your Criticism are made in the right spirit... yes?...

 

[Kit]

BTW, if by any chance you want to start your own little crusade to "improve" the situation, I'll be watching. Will be quite interesting to see how it goes actually. Been here for as long as I can remember and I see this come and go too many times.

 

[swingoutsister]

crusade?

please don't make it sound like its a 'one person army' against the odds situations.

but i'm sure i do represent the views of some people here. reduce the amount of non-relevant replies and finger pointing and i'm sure more people will be willing to contribute their views.

 

[Kit]

crusade?

please don't make it sound like its a 'one person army' against the odds situations.

Not here to dampen your spirit but you couldn't have descriped the situation any better.

I've said this more than once, you are not the first and you definitely won't be the last. Heck, I was even like you. My advise, spend your time on other endeavours. However, nobody's going to stop you from trying.

 

[AReality]

Nice thread....

 

[eow]

shall we ban comments like "very nice photos!"

it doesn't help anything or anyone with comments like that, except to serve the egos of the thread poster.

what can we all learn from comments like "very nice photos!"

and then the poster goes on and take similarly weak pictures, post and get "very nice photos!" all over again.

i'm sorry to be so harsh but some people here ought be given a rough shake.
wake up! wake up!

if you like it, share with us why you like it.

There nothing wrong with it
It show that the pic is decent enough to generate a remark