Shall I get Singapore citizenship?

[Sjourn]

I see Nokia's line of thought as being representative of most foreign 'talent'.

They have no loyalty to the country, once problems occur, they are ready to hot foot it out of here.

We can keep encouraging these mercenaries to come and live in the country but once war breaks out, they'd be like rats leaving a sicking ship.

They are a scourge on the country. They take away jobs from the locals and send back the money to their countries of origin. They don't invest it back into this country.

Take it easy, if you are not happy, be a foreign talent in another country, take away thier jobs and send money back to SG.

that's what I'm doing.:bsmilie:

 

[Edward77]

Take it easy, if you are not happy, be a foreign talent in another country, take away thier jobs and send money back to SG.

that's what I'm doing.:bsmilie:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[Broken Rubber]

Whats the fuss about foreign talents? They take your money send back to their country and if their country declares war on Sg then some of those bullet fired comes from your pocket. You think like that song meh? Cool lah. These talents helps to build the nation.

For Nokia's issue, you married the girl you choose and you created the child that carries your surname. So now **** happens and you want to shake things off. The way you put it is like the child is something expendable for you to weight it against Sg citizenship.

 

[waileong]

Technically speaking, all are supposed to be equal before the law, so whether you are black, white, Singaporean, PR, etc. should not affect the judgement on how much maintenance you have to pay.

Six month ago, I submitted my citizenship application, expecting bright future in Singapore.
Now the application is approved, but a sudden change happend on my marriage, will divorce with my wife ( Singapore PR) soon.

With a terrible mood, I am keeping ask myself: shall I get the citizen?
In terms of my future in Singapore, the answer is yes...
In terms of divorce, I might pay the maintenance for my wife and 5 year old kid, any difference for SPR and Singaporean?

 

[yanyewkay]

Technically speaking, all are supposed to be equal before the law, so whether you are black, white, Singaporean, PR, etc. should not affect the judgement on how much maintenance you have to pay.

provided you married in SG under Women's Charter. I know some smart playboys marry local girls in nearby batam or bintan to escape the women's charter so they can dump their wives anytime they want to without worries of prosecution.

 

[Yappy]

Dear nokia, the question is not about applying for citizenship and paying the maintenance. The big question is about saving your marriage :bheart: ..... and not your money. In any divorce, the child is the one who will suffer. Seek help from marriage cousellors ASAP.

Yes.. get a cousellors ASAP..... all can be done. It is the mindset!
:sweat: :sweat: it is hard to forgive but again it can be done!

 

[steph00]

Yes if you are out of your mind.

 

[Deadpoet]

Dear nokia, the question is not about applying for citizenship and paying the maintenance. The big question is about saving your marriage :bheart: ..... and not your money. In any divorce, the child is the one who will suffer. Seek help from marriage cousellors ASAP.

Dear nokia,

its very sad when a marriage broke up and the child is the one sufferring the most. Visit any family court now and you will see what i mean. Its very depressing and sad...

I hope things will work out btw you and your wife.. try to save the marriage if possible. Think about your child and what's best for him/her. Think about what do you want... regarding the citizenship, is there any way to delaying it first? is there a deadline?

My best wishes to you and hope things will resolve...

you hit the jackpot. the child suffers the most when a marriage breaks. not so much on the financial aspects, but rather the child would be affected mostly emotionally and mentally.

Yes.. get a cousellors ASAP..... all can be done. It is the mindset!
:sweat: :sweat: it is hard to forgive but again it can be done!

I am going out on a limb on this one. First of all, both parents must be responsible for the raiseing of the child. No escaping responsibility here. Trying to weasel out of child support is, in my view, completely unacceptable and lower than scum. That said, here goes!

I found all of the above post, advising conselling, best wishes to patch up, and pressure to maintain the status quo, very unsettling. None of us knew exactly what causes the deterrioation of the relationship. We just assumed any brokern relation can be mend, should be fix, and must be reconcilled.

Assuming that the husband and wife do foce themselves to stay together, in a marriage they want no part of, tell me how is that a good enviroment for the child? It will not be a happy household. Is that the enviroment you want to bring up your child in?

I think the child is screwed either way. However, if after divorced, the parent who ended up with the child can lead a happier life, and mybe settle down again in a new and happy relationship/family, the child is much better off.

I found people who give these thous must at all cost keep the family together advise are ill advised themselves.

 

[ldft]

Been reading through all of these posts and I agree with Deadpoet, there are a lot of reasons for divorce, and staying together may be a much worse situation. As such my comments are based on the assumption that the divorce is or has already happened, and there is no turning back.

I think the issue here is the real reason for getting married in the first place and the reason for getting the Singapre citizenship.

- Was the marriage for the main purpose of getting the Singapore citizenship, because career opportunities are better here?
- Or, was the marriage for the purpose of having a life together with someone else and starting a family together, and Singapore just happened to be the prefered choice of country, as compared to Nokia's home country?

If it is the former, than you figure out whether you are better off here, even after paying child support, or going back to wherever you are from and working there. If it is still better here than stay, you've acheived your objective, though a lot of citizens would tell you to bugger off as you are not the type of people we want. If after child support it is financially better going back, than go.

If it is the latter, and after a while here you have grown to like living in Singapore, than that's another matter.

Is the decision only based on the potential financial implications of paying for child support? Or are the emotional scars also a factor of not wanting to stay here any longer, even though the work opportunities are better. Only you will know.

 

[Edward77]

I am going out on a limb on this one. First of all, both parents must be responsible for the raiseing of the child. No escaping responsibility here. Trying to weasel out of child support is, in my view, completely unacceptable and lower than scum. That said, here goes!

I found all of the above post, advising conselling, best wishes to patch up, and pressure to maintain the status quo, very unsettling. None of us knew exactly what causes the deterrioation of the relationship. We just assumed any brokern relation can be mend, should be fix, and must be reconcilled.

Assuming that the husband and wife do foce themselves to stay together, in a marriage they want no part of, tell me how is that a good enviroment for the child? It will not be a happy household. Is that the enviroment you want to bring up your child in?

I think the child is screwed either way. However, if after divorced, the parent who ended up with the child can lead a happier life, and mybe settle down again in a new and happy relationship/family, the child is much better off.

I found people who give these thous must at all cost keep the family together advise are ill advised themselves.

Dear "Deadpoet", I agree with you that both parents must be responsible for raising the child. And yes, we dun know what caused the marriage to fail. Therefore, it is necessary that they seek help from marriage counsellor and sort things out. If that fails, they will have to take the next step to decide what's best for themselves as well as for the child.

Last but not least, do not assume that those who gave advises are themselves "ill advised". We can never know what someone else have been thru and the experiences they can share to make others lifes more fruitful ....

You have your own mindset, perspective and life philosophy that makes you different from the rest, but dun jump to conclusion .....