Sennheiser Wireless Microphone System
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Wish I have the flexibility of an additional recorder like what you mention. However, I think for my situation as a one-person do it all situation and kinda low budget all the time, it would take me additional time to re-synch those audios. Maybe that's the only bad point that I can think off..
Besides that, what additional pros would a wireless system have ?? hmmm... ??
I used the Samson H2 and placed it next to the speaker. This is in additional to my usual on cam Mic. Why am I doing this? It is more for backup purpose and sometime when you are shooting, your cam might not be facing the stage or speaker resulting in a drop in the volumn of the recorded audio. In those secneario, I will use the H2 audio which the vol is constant throughout. But there is a risk of kena stolen or forgotten to recover after your shoot.
alternus
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Hi guys, if you are doing church wedding, the minimum I'll recommend is: 1 wireless mic on the groom, 1 mp3 recorder (with lapel mic on the podium), standard mounted mic on your cam. You only need to sync the podium recording once a while when you edit (takes a few minutes at most).
If you have the budget to improve the quality of your work, put 1 more mp3 recorder (with lapel mic) on the Paster and 1 more set on the Bride too.
Input from mixer can give you the best quality. But you'll leave your fate to the guy behind the mixer which you may not be familiar with. I'll try to lay a long XLR cable from the mixer whenever possible to the 3rd cam. But it is always a hit or miss.
Anyway, the sennheiser G2 wireless is becoming a standard equipment.
BTW, those mp3 recorders costs only S$100 off ebay, 1Gb storage and records to a 44.1KHz Wav file, with 3.5 mm mic/line in. Stereo lapel mics are cheaply avail too.
If you have the budget to improve the quality of your work, put 1 more mp3 recorder (with lapel mic) on the Paster and 1 more set on the Bride too.
Input from mixer can give you the best quality. But you'll leave your fate to the guy behind the mixer which you may not be familiar with. I'll try to lay a long XLR cable from the mixer whenever possible to the 3rd cam. But it is always a hit or miss.
Anyway, the sennheiser G2 wireless is becoming a standard equipment.
BTW, those mp3 recorders costs only S$100 off ebay, 1Gb storage and records to a 44.1KHz Wav file, with 3.5 mm mic/line in. Stereo lapel mics are cheaply avail too.
Now.. it gets me to think .. what advantage does the Wireless mic have as compared to this portable recorders.. with recorders we can get another channel of audio to play with . while with wireless we get to monitor the sound input.. we if like my case.. I just monitor thru looking at the audio levels, won't wanna wear another headphone running around.
Which is more consistent.. ..and i think both also risk kena stolen .. if we were to put the G2 at the PA system to get the line in from XLR .. it would be the same case as leave the portable recorder..
alternus
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I think you misunderstood some stuff here... for me, a wireless mic gets close to the subject (without laying cables) and the audio gets recorded along with the visual (no need to sync in post). And each wireless input is more or less dedicated to 1 subject's audio. If I have the $, I'll not buy portable recorders. Instead, I'll buy 3-4 wireless mic sets and put them where I want to pick up the audio, plus 1 mixer (with 1 mixer guy to do live mixing of course!)
You still have to monitor your audio (via levels or headphones) regardless wireless or not (unless you set the recording device to auto. It's like your iris control for exposure).
On the risk of being stolen, I agree. But you got to be careful with all your equipment. I'm often lucky enough to have people returning my stuff to me even before I went to dismantle.
erm.. I would like to say .. if u were to lay a mic on a person, you would still need to have him to pocket or clip on the transmitter (Eg: the bridegroom). The same goes with mp3 recorder. Recorder willl have a wired mic to the person and he will still have to pocket / clip on the recorder to his body ..
now I'm thinking ..besides we get to monitor the audio output where the recorder, we couldn't... what are the advantages of using wireless ? And will there be a lot of issue with interference ?
Sorry... I merely used wireless G2 twice, do not have much experience / problems with it.. so far serving me well. Currently contemplating whether to get G2 or a few of the the recorder with cheap mics.. (Samson H2 .. and etc )
chanxj
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1.) Saves u alot of trouble with post esp if u need wedding day highlights.
2.) Inteference issue should be minimal if frequencies are coordinated properly.
3.) You can confirm if mic is transmitting. U won't noe status of ur recorder.
It depends alot on what you are doing and whether its suitable. I use it more for interviews. Prefer to tap from sound source than go mic up everyone individually(though im at mercy of the person mixing).
2.) Inteference issue should be minimal if frequencies are coordinated properly.
3.) You can confirm if mic is transmitting. U won't noe status of ur recorder.
It depends alot on what you are doing and whether its suitable. I use it more for interviews. Prefer to tap from sound source than go mic up everyone individually(though im at mercy of the person mixing).
alternus
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Some general insights in audio capturing here:
http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=52722
http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=52722
Bride is always difficult to mic because of the dress she's wearing.
My solution when I was doing wedding coverage donkey years ago.....get an omni pattern wireless mic on the groom....when they face each other to do their vows, both bride and groom will be adequately picked up on the wireless omni lapel mic.
If you use a cardiod pattern lapel mic, then you can forget about picking up the bride's speech effectively if the mic is on the groom.
1 shotgun on cam, 1 wireless omni on groom is usually quite sufficient for me.
If clients are anal about audio and want better quality, I will increase budget and get a sound man.
Another solution is to use your wireless kit, tap a line out from the FOH mixer. One channel on boom & another on wireless line out from mixer. :thumbsup:
My solution when I was doing wedding coverage donkey years ago.....get an omni pattern wireless mic on the groom....when they face each other to do their vows, both bride and groom will be adequately picked up on the wireless omni lapel mic.
If you use a cardiod pattern lapel mic, then you can forget about picking up the bride's speech effectively if the mic is on the groom.
1 shotgun on cam, 1 wireless omni on groom is usually quite sufficient for me.
If clients are anal about audio and want better quality, I will increase budget and get a sound man.
Another solution is to use your wireless kit, tap a line out from the FOH mixer. One channel on boom & another on wireless line out from mixer. :thumbsup:
alternus
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Got to embed the mic in the gown before she wears it.... can't fix a wireless on her. Has to be an MP3. For angmoh brides, they have a garter on her thigh to hook on. SG brides? use the Cancan lor... haha!
I've yet to try that. But hope to try it out soon. Best to use a white/beige lavaliere. But they are not really affordable to me.
Wow.. someone did this ?? hahaa.. .never thought of how the bride will feel having a wire running in her gown ??
engr
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Bride is always difficult to mic because of the dress she's wearing.
My solution when I was doing wedding coverage donkey years ago.....get an omni pattern wireless mic on the groom....when they face each other to do their vows, both bride and groom will be adequately picked up on the wireless omni lapel mic.
If you use a cardiod pattern lapel mic, then you can forget about picking up the bride's speech effectively if the mic is on the groom.
1 shotgun on cam, 1 wireless omni on groom is usually quite sufficient for me.
If clients are anal about audio and want better quality, I will increase budget and get a sound man.
Another solution is to use your wireless kit, tap a line out from the FOH mixer. One channel on boom & another on wireless line out from mixer. :thumbsup:
I usually record a line out from the FOH mixer but sometimes they screw it up and mix it with audio channels.. u know, like the fella is testing something to his microphone while the ceremony is in progress and it goes into the recording. Thaz why we rather trust our own equipment. Omni on the groom, prob a recorder on the podium or best would be another cardiod on the pastor.
engr
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Ha ha its prob quite interesting to have an mp3 recorder on the cancan.. BTW, I think u can get an affordable white cable+mic from Giant Squid. They work very well with the iriver mp3 recorders.
Bodrochowski
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I've just spent a good while researching all the possible avenues for recording sound at a wedding, and I'm wondering whether the following is the most logical:
Use a stereo lapel on the groom and mp3 recorder for the vows;
Use two Sennheiser ME66 shotguns at the top table for speeches.
Of course a decent lapel would be preferable for the speeches, but this would mean I'd have to buy FOUR G2s I think (do four people give speeches? Or is it just three? I can't remember now. Only done one wedding before)
I can't imagine fitting a mic on the wedding dress being very feasible at all, she's gonna be wearing it all bleedin' day.
Use a stereo lapel on the groom and mp3 recorder for the vows;
Use two Sennheiser ME66 shotguns at the top table for speeches.
Of course a decent lapel would be preferable for the speeches, but this would mean I'd have to buy FOUR G2s I think (do four people give speeches? Or is it just three? I can't remember now. Only done one wedding before)
I can't imagine fitting a mic on the wedding dress being very feasible at all, she's gonna be wearing it all bleedin' day.
chanxj
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each ew100 g2 cost roughly the same or cheaper than the me66 capsule +k6 powering module if i am not mistaken.
I wouldn't use the me66 for mounting on table top most of the time. Would rather use something smaller and lower profile if it is neccessary for table top mounting. But of course the sound requirement for each wedding/event is unique, and thus I would not go for a one size fit all approach.
I wouldn't use the me66 for mounting on table top most of the time. Would rather use something smaller and lower profile if it is neccessary for table top mounting. But of course the sound requirement for each wedding/event is unique, and thus I would not go for a one size fit all approach.
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