Goes to show that most reviewers don't make good photographers ................ :bsmilie:
Probably too tied up with the technical details ..................... :think:
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Goes to show that most reviewers don't make good photographers ................ :bsmilie:
Probably too tied up with the technical details ..................... :think:
pentax one got AF.
Other than the test samples on the camera sharpness, the rest of what had been said of the S5Pro are pretty much spot on.
The test samples on the ISO settings (page 17 of the review) are inconsistent with the resolution test chart (page 27). If the Queen is really so fuzzy, we will see so many lines in page 27. And I believe many more S5Pro users can verify that their camera can in fact get a much sharper image at 100% crop compare to what Simon has put up.
The test samples on the ISO settings (page 17 of the review) are inconsistent with the resolution test chart (page 27). If the Queen is really so fuzzy, we will see so many lines in page 27. And I believe many more S5Pro users can verify that their camera can in fact get a much sharper image at 100% crop compare to what Simon has put up.
wah! JY, u changed to S5pro?!?!?!? must lemme play play abit
are u saying that it has an INBUILT CAM HDR function ?:O
that will be almost FANTASTIC OREDI!
Hey PL, yeah lor...but still keep my D70
Looks like it is not a HDR-like function :cry:
Feel free to call/PM me out for kopi...provided not my turn to do babysitting, haha!
although i'm not a Nikon/Fuji user, i believe what i do for my Canon applies here as well..
you can take a RAW image and you can do the HDR image by playing with the exposure values.. there is a software called PhotoMatrix where you can do your HDR with
http://www.johninjapan.com/blog/show,creating-hdr-images.html/
hope its useful for you..
Thanks pal, very informative article!
mysterio506
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so Phil Askey was in Spore, took some shots over here.
wonder where he bought the S5 Pro, cheaper in SG than UK
wonder where he bought the S5 Pro, cheaper in SG than UK
ziploc
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Looking through the sample pics of the S5pro review, I noticed that Phil's pics are generally much softer then those taken by Simon, even after considering the iso, shutter speed and aperture. E.g. sample 24 is still rather soft at iso 100, 1/225s, f/8.0, as compare to sample 32 at iso 100, 1/225s, f/5.0. Could it be that Phil had gotten a lemon?
Kit
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so Phil Askey was in Spore, took some shots over here.
wonder where he bought the S5 Pro, cheaper in SG than UK
He married a Singaporean so its not surprising he turned up once in a while.
One very interesting aspect which the review clearly revealed is the difference in the "S" curve dynamic range between the S5 and the D200. When shot in film mode or wide dynamic range, the S5 has a very gentle roll-off treatment of the highlight (and shadow) areas -- i guess this gives it its signature good tonality. I was quite shocked to see how the D200 abruptly "cuts off" the highlight areas -- the D200 "curve" was straight up like a rocket.
No wonder there had been so much complaints from D200 users about how easily the camera blows away (clips) the highlights...
No wonder there had been so much complaints from D200 users about how easily the camera blows away (clips) the highlights...
i think cos s5 dun fit into their testing profile :bsmilie:
anyway you buy s5 to shoot right? not compare with reviews :bsmilie:
No no no..... let all those who are affected by the review dump their S5 Pros on the cheap.... then we'll have good cameras to snap up. :devil:
pianodancer
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As with any technical reviews, it tries to compare with scientific comparisons to derive results and conclusions. In real life, however, you might not experience all these good and bad points. Therefore, individuals may experience different results.
phil askey is reviewing s5pro for a mass mkt.... and s5 (or for dat matter, any fuji DSLR) is IMO never meant for the general happy-snapper.
i believe i've posted this blog by ryan brenizer some time ago, abt his impressions on the s5. have a read, as it was written from a user point of view.
http://ryanbrenizer.livejournal.com/
watever it is, if anyone has doubts abt the s5 in relation to its close cousin the d200... then probably the s5 is not for u.
i believe i've posted this blog by ryan brenizer some time ago, abt his impressions on the s5. have a read, as it was written from a user point of view.
http://ryanbrenizer.livejournal.com/
watever it is, if anyone has doubts abt the s5 in relation to its close cousin the d200... then probably the s5 is not for u.
hehe...good idea :bsmilie:
JillValentine
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Do you mean that S5 Pro is a bit slow?
lets just say one dun buy a fuji DSLR for speed...
Technicalities aside, I have many issues digesting the "Recommended" label on the S5 pro, considering that the S3 Pro was "Highly Recommended (just)". DP is effectively saying that the S5 is worse than the S3 given their respective competition! :dunno:
There have been many opinions lately expressing the view that the S5 is a "niche" camera and therefore it only deserves "Recommended" by virtue of its niche-ness. What's so niche about it? Yes it produces nicer colours, higher DR and better skin tone - that makes it a better camera not niche. You don't have to be a wedding/portrait photographer to enjoy all those attributes. I still don't get why the S5 is considered niche when the Canon 1Ds mark XYZ is not. heck even the 5D has more reasons to be considered niche than the S5.
To enjoy these attributes I'd have to sacrifice speed. Correction, *some* speed, as I can still do 3 fps if I'd wanted to. I lose 2 fps compared to the D200. Woop-dee-doo.
Sure, the camera has flaws. The menu system can be improved, perhaps more resolution is needed for the pixel peepers. But for what it is, the S5 is a great camera. Thanks to the S5, I finally moved into digital with confidence, having used Fuji emulsions on my F5 for many years.
(okay I feel better now lah...)
:lovegrin:
There have been many opinions lately expressing the view that the S5 is a "niche" camera and therefore it only deserves "Recommended" by virtue of its niche-ness. What's so niche about it? Yes it produces nicer colours, higher DR and better skin tone - that makes it a better camera not niche. You don't have to be a wedding/portrait photographer to enjoy all those attributes. I still don't get why the S5 is considered niche when the Canon 1Ds mark XYZ is not. heck even the 5D has more reasons to be considered niche than the S5.
To enjoy these attributes I'd have to sacrifice speed. Correction, *some* speed, as I can still do 3 fps if I'd wanted to. I lose 2 fps compared to the D200. Woop-dee-doo.
Sure, the camera has flaws. The menu system can be improved, perhaps more resolution is needed for the pixel peepers. But for what it is, the S5 is a great camera. Thanks to the S5, I finally moved into digital with confidence, having used Fuji emulsions on my F5 for many years.
(okay I feel better now lah...)
:lovegrin:
pianodancer
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One reason why it's only 'recommended' is because its improvements are nowhere 'revolutionary'. Fujifilm DSLR's biggest selling point is its dynamic range, but that is already available in S3pro. As for the rest of the features, they are better than S3pro but mostly comparable or inferior to other brands that are cheaper. Other imaging benefits like cleaner noise are to be taken for granted (any DSLR maker that sells a new model with a poorer noise control than the predecessor ought to be shot!)
S5pro seems to be for the niche market because it satisfies the group of people who loves shooting in film. And people who shoots film do not (and cannot) review the photos instantly, and they don't waste their film by shooting in burst mode. Fujifilm's DSLR satisfies this small group of people by continuing to provide excellent sensor technology at the expense of the usual advantages of fps, huge buffer, instant review.
I hope my analysis is logical.:sweat:
Slight error: DP recommendation was "Above Average" for the S3 and "Highly Recommended" for the old S2. S2 was revolutionary and offered very good image quality at that time. But when S3 came out, other manufacturers have caught up in IQ. And nowadays we have pretty good 6-10mp entry level DSLRs. Some like Tom Hogan says that the S5 image quality is not even as good as his D40!!! So I suspect -- given that the S5 is not much different from S3 -- that if not for the superb D200 body, the S5 would also have been "Above Average" only.
But, having used the S5, I must admit this camera has a certain X Factor that is hard to put a finger on.... much less quantify and show on resolution charts....
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