's Shoot at Boat Quay (Overexposed Series)

[CreaXion]

Well go ahead and report me. Send me to jail !!! Following him entirely is disadvantageous ... Some is ok, but not all ... Just look at the people around you .

Well did I ever state that u have to follow him entirely? Pls quote me that I ever say so. You are so thick headed and bulletproof until you miss the pt.

The pp around is not a reflection of Confucius teachings. For eg, a person who does not practise his religion properly can immediately be labelled as the religion being problematic. Like that all religion also cannot liao.

Wake up and read carefully:sticktong .

 

[yilishengxian]

Er, do you reject demoralising comments even if they're constructive?

So, what's the intention behind showing the pics which you think it is not good enough here? What is the end result you want to achieve? This is something you should search deeper and ask yourself.

Actually, I admire your courage in experimenting and posting your unfinished articles here in the forum.

What I'm trying to point out to you, is that you should grasp the basic knowledge first and then experiment and develop your own style.

For example, you want to get a certain shade of purple. You have that colour in your mind. So, you must know the basic knowledge that blue and red makes purple right? If you don't know this and you go "hmm...i dunno which 2 colour to mix, but never mind, try any 2 colours and see", and start experimenting with mixing different types of colour at random, and start all over again when they fail. Don't you think that you are wasting time and effort? Do you call this an experimentation at all? Doesn't this tantamount to groping in the dark?

Now, if you've basic knowledge that blue + red gives you purple, and that by adding white will probably give u different hues or intensity of that purple, wouldn't be much easier for you to get to your 'dream purple'? At least when u fail, u can then retrace your steps backwards and find out what went wrong and rectify from there right

Kenny

Demoralising comments such as "take a break" and so on ... Any comments on the photos taken will be taken in ...

I don't see anything requiring courage in experimenting and posting any articles here. And I feel that we all have different ways of learning. Whether its suitable for you or another person, its another matter .

 

[hobbit6003]

Oh yah, one more thing, trying to insist not to use PP to achieve certain effects, shows a tinge of foolhardiness.

That shows that you've not actually know the basics of your camera, what the camera can do for you, and what it cannot.

Kenny

 

[yilishengxian]

Well did I ever state that u have to follow him entirely? Pls quote me that I ever say so. You are so thick headed and bulletproof until you miss the pt.

The pp around is not a reflection of Confucius teachings. For eg, a person who does not practise his religion properly can immediately be labelled as the religion being problematic. Like that all religion also cannot liao.

Wake up and read carefully:sticktong .

Well, maybe we can all move away from the Confucius subject as that doesn't help much in photography imo ...

Well I can tell you, I don't practice my religion properly and intend to convert too, but thats besides the point. The images here are posted for photographic comments .

 

[yilishengxian]

Oh yah, one more thing, trying to insist not to use PP to achieve certain effects, shows a tinge of foolhardiness.

That shows that you've not actually know the basics of your camera, what the camera can do for you, and what it cannot.

Kenny

Well, this also shows that you did not learn to use your camera well enough. Though mine is a cheapo camera, but I'd still expect alot from it ;p

 

[hobbit6003]

Well, this also shows that you did not learn to use your camera well enough. Though mine is a cheapo camera, but I'd still expect alot from it ;p

Well, has any part in my post indicated to you that I have mastered my camera or photography?;p

Kenny

 

[Liew]

Well, this also shows that you did not learn to use your camera well enough. Though mine is a cheapo camera, but I'd still expect alot from it ;p

you mean your cheapo camera can make the skin look natural when you want it to or provide a vignetting effect when you need or shot in high contrast b&w like film or do manual cropping when you don't have enough reach?

 

[madmacs]

Since u said, boring photos are destined for the trash cans, so where do u think the TS's photos shd belong to?

you may think that the TS's photos are boring. others may find something interesting in them. likewise some ppl may find your best photos boring so should you trash them?

 

[madmacs]

The pros are trying to guide u to a commercial style. Your shots are more lifestyle shots which has turned commercial like NBYN. This can be very subjective at times.

However, for technicalities wise, it is not subjective most of the time though.

I dun think the rest are putting the TS down but trying to guide the TS certain things are not really possible but effect can be achieved in another manner.

hmm..maybe the TS can answer this. was the TS looking for a commercial style? or just pure experimental shots?

to the rest of us, why not do this? try to understand what the TS is trying to achieve, and take it as a challenge to see if you can do it...in camera. no photoshopping other then resizing and sharpening for posting. lets see if you are as good as you think you are. no prizes for the one who gets it first. maybe just some bragging right.

as for me i'm still cracking my brains trying to figure out how to get it done.

 

[CreaXion]

Well, has any part in my post indicated to you that I have mastered my camera or photography?;p

Kenny

Wah Lau Eh! Copy my style of qn liao .

 

[CreaXion]

Well did I ever state that u have to follow him entirely? Pls quote me that I ever say so. You are so thick headed and bulletproof until you miss the pt.

The pp around is not a reflection of Confucius teachings. For eg, a person who does not practise his religion properly can immediately be labelled as the religion being problematic. Like that all religion also cannot liao.

Wake up and read carefully:sticktong .

Wah Lau Eh. I lao hua yen liao. The word must be cannot or else diff meaning liao.

 

[madmacs]

Pls clarify your statement. Find it very sweeping. Does it mean that even if u know u are wilfully wrong, u still make the same mistake over and over again or are u saying that u will adjust accordingly to the feedback given.

his statement made sense to me leh. thats my belief too ;p

 

[CreaXion]

Well, maybe we can all move away from the Confucius subject as that doesn't help much in photography imo ...

Well I can tell you, I don't practice my religion properly and intend to convert too, but thats besides the point. The images here are posted for photographic comments .

You are still missing my pt. The issue is not abt religion. For the past few posts, Kenny and I have been trying to let u see your own faulty mental models. It is not abt religion. It is abt faulty thinking processes. We are trying to help u think before u say or do certain things for as a bystander, we can see so much fallacies that u hold. Chinese has a saying, "Pang Guan Zhe Qing" Many of the forumers here are trying to make u understand that experimentation must be done with purposeful or thoughout processes so that time and money is not wasted.

 

[madmacs]

This is the ignorant part of you and to be harsh, this is what I meant by your thinking not in place. You have a very faulty thinking mental model. Before u ever think abt saying this statement, pls check who Confucius is. If there is total rejection of Confucius, u better go to prison and stay. I think that place is suitable for you.

you seem to be forcing TS to think your way :nono:

 

[madmacs]

Wah Lau Eh! You are saying that you dun have the values being advocated by Confucius hah.

They are
Rén, "benevolence, charity, humanity, love," kindness. The fundamental virtue of Confucianism. Confucius defines it as "Aì rén," "love others."

Yì, "right conduct, morality, duty to one's neighbor," righteousness.

Lì, "profit, gain, advantage": NOT a proper motive for actions affecting others. The idea that profit is the source of temptation to do wrong is the Confucian ground of the later official disparagment of commerce and industry

Li3, "propriety, good manners, politeness, ceremony, worship." Xiào, "to honor one's parents," filial piety.

Yì may be broken down [Analects IV:15] into: zhong1, doing one's best, conscientiousness, "loyalty" [2]; and shù, "reciprocity," altruism, consideration for others, "what you don't want yourself, don't do to others" [Analects XV:24 or 23].

The Master said, "The gentleman (chün tzu or ) understands yì. The small man understands lì." [Analects IV:16]

Courtesy from this website : http://www.friesian.com/confuci.htm

Shouldn't u be in jail for the benefit of the community.

tsk tsk...

 

[CreaXion]

you may think that the TS's photos are boring. others may find something interesting in them. likewise some ppl may find your best photos boring so should you trash them?

Actually, I was trying to see what Doc has to say abt it lah because he talk abt trashing. That makes him looks like DP liao

 

[CreaXion]

tsk tsk...

What does it mean hah? Really trying to comprehend. Pardon my comprehension.

 

[madmacs]

What I'm trying to point out to you, is that you should grasp the basic knowledge first and then experiment and develop your own style.

i dun think this is a must. good to have yes. but not a must.

 

[madmacs]

Actually, I was trying to see what Doc has to say abt it lah because he talk abt trashing. That makes him looks like DP liao

doc makes a lot more sense then dp leh

 

[hobbit6003]

hmm..maybe the TS can answer this. was the TS looking for a commercial style? or just pure experimental shots?

to the rest of us, why not do this? try to understand what the TS is trying to achieve, and take it as a challenge to see if you can do it...in camera. no photoshopping other then resizing and sharpening for posting. lets see if you are as good as you think you are. no prizes for the one who gets it first. maybe just some bragging right.

as for me i'm still cracking my brains trying to figure out how to get it done.

Actually this sounds like a great idea. ;p