saberlancer
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Hybrid means digital and can take film lah..lol
[Rumor] Nikon Retro Hybrid Mirrorless Camera (FX)
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An AF system comparable to cheaper DSLR is missing because the on-sensor PDAF thingy works only in sufficient light and doesn't seem to be that awesome. In the end they just slap a different micro lens filter on and use a few of the existing photodiodes for PDAF. We don't even know how much it contributes to the CDAF performance since you can't switch it off (they probably hide that for a good reason). Since the A7 has a lower pixel count compared to the A7r it would have a faster AF even without PDAF anyway (assuming both have the same computing power).
The on-sensor PDAF simply isn't an extraordinary feature because it isn't as good as the PDAF in a DSLR. The only cool feature left is the EVF and we don't even know yet if the DH doesn't have an EVF as well. Anyway, I think feature rich is quite an exaggeration because the A7/r are just like all other mirror-less cameras, I don't see any feature standing out. Okay, one single feature stands out, the sensor size.
Haha.. I don't disagree with any of what you've posted. I think there's just some miscommunication in our definition for feature rich. I was merely referring to the variety/quantity of features, rather than any stand out features. But the Sony's seem like a marketing tick-box of every must-have bells and whistles.
To be fair, on-sensor PDAF tech is still quite new and only Nikon V1/2's have been remotely competitive to conventional PDAF in C-AF. But contrast AF is really quite good on the m43s and with Sony's big investment in Olympus, I think its only time before it''ll make its way into Sony mirrorless. I haven't had first hand experience with the newest two m43 cameras (GX7 and EM1) which are suppose to have improved low light AF.
kei1309
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i'm getting the A7R and i'm not really missing out much on AF speed, seeing as all my lenses are MF lenses.
also. the DF seems like a tempting camera as well, seeing as i have F-mount lenses too.
photo-orama
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I am exactly on the same boat.. Lets see what Nikon releases first, but if you consider that "its not as if you are going to throw away all your other gear when you buy one or the other", then I don't mind adding the Sony with a couple of range finder lenses... just sharing my thoughts...
kei1309
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photo-orama
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what i meant was getting both cameras
!!! errr... no lah (ha ha, 1 would be sufficient for the extra speed...).. Unless there is really something awesome about them (less optimistic about the Nikon to be honest
but I am willing to be pleasantly surprised 
diediealsomustdive
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If you have F mount lenses then unless there is something really compelling for you with the Sony it's wise to stay with Nikon, you'll get full aperture metering and exif data. I sold my entire m43 set and returned to Nikon 1 so I can AF and also use my MF lenses. I am keen on this pure photography camera but subject to pricing.
kei1309
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I'm using the live view on the Sony NEX-7. Pretty accurate in terms of final exposure and color. So metering isn't an issue.
Err bro..... this Nikon 1 can do the usual Nikon CLS?
Absolutely. I think once you've had a chance to try both, your decision will come naturally.
IMO though the DF might be priced in the A7-A7r price range, making them natural economic competitors, as I've outlined in my previous post I think they are quite different in use and your preference will let you gravitate towards one or the other
kei1309
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Absolutely. I think once you've had a chance to try both, your decision will come naturally.
IMO though the DF might be priced in the A7-A7r price range, making them natural economic competitors, as I've outlined in my previous post I think they are quite different in use and your preference will let you gravitate towards one or the other
why buy one when you can have both?
Haha.. cos then you can only enjoy each camera half the time.
But you know what they say, variety's the spice of life so if you've got the luxury to own both, more power to you :thumbsup:
kei1309
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They are different cameras for different purposes IMO
I agree. In a previous post I had outlined why I think they are quite different.
I was only jesting in my last post
kei1309
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I agree. In a previous post I had outlined why I think they are quite different.
I was only jesting in my last post
it's like having 2 mistresses aye?
:bsmilie:
Ya high maintenance........
Yeah, she really is... :-(
ageha
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Andrew Ng
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Its ok to have 2 or more mistress as long as they don't give trouble and help with the income. 
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