Ricoh GXR!

[isomers007]

GXR is definitly more expensive from a long-term perspective.
Due to the "fixed lens to sensor" design the value of the lens drops from the moment you paied for it as the sensor loses its value due to technological advancement.
Each time you invest in a new lens that is coupled with a sensor made of a new technology more is paid for new technoloies are expensive.
Even if you can justify it as "cheap" by your own reasoning, "cheap" does not amount to cost saving which is achivable through an interchangable lens system.
Still, to be fair I would say I defninitly would buy myself a GXR if Ricoh had released a pancake prime lens and I hadn't bought a GF1.

same thots too. I would get one if they would release a wide prime lens (apsc). That's enuff for me. But then it would make more sense to release a grd-lookalike with an apsc prime lens like the dp1/2.

 

[blurry80]

I wonder will it be better if they separate the lens from the sensor.
Body
Sensor
Lens
3 modules.

 

[Yinfinity]

I wonder will it be better if they separate the lens from the sensor.
Body
Sensor
Lens
3 modules.

That is an interesting idea with far more intriguing implications. I can't give a serious answer as your question will only give rise to further questions about the type of the mount, the format of the sensor and the design of the lens, etc. Body, sensor and lens, each becomes a variable would give us an amazing amount of combinations by multiplying the number of choices for each factor. That could be fun.

 

[Reim1o]

If I'm Ricoh's CEO, and M-mount is not Leica's property (I wonder if Voigtlander pay licensee fee to Leica), I would gamble releasing a sensor module only with M-mount. Full frame off course . Maybe also a pancake 45mm f/2.8 M-mount to go with it.

It will sell like hotcakes if the price can be pushed below 2 or even 2.5K

Who needs AutoFocus if the zoom module can already do this. Spending heaps of money for producing a new mount, new lens to go with it, is not a good investment.

Better yet, full frame sensor with detachable mount and offer EOS, nikkor, pentax, om, and M mounting unit.

 

[artspraken]

CLICK HERE GXR Review 14 Dec awarded 4.5 stars!!!

 

[blurry80]

If i'm Ricoh's CEO i'll give artspraken a pat on the back for the effort.

 

[artspraken]

yeah man, i think Ricoh shld give me a free GXR. quite frankly, i havent decided between GXR and X1.

 

[huan]

i saw the GXR in OP this afternoon with 50mm. was quote $1500+++ body and 50mm.
quite good price and the 2470 lens around 580+++.

 

[Birmingham]

Saw the Display set in SLR Revolution today.
They let me try it out. Body is so light without any lens..
COOL!!

 

[huan]

Saw the Display set in SLR Revolution today.
They let me try it out. Body is so light without any lens..
COOL!!

did u asked for price?

 

[Birmingham]

did u asked for price?

Body with 50mm was quote $1456.
24 - 72mm lens at $562
Price include GST. Cash price

They mentioned that stock coming in on Wed.

 

[isomers007]

Body with 50mm was quote $1456.
24 - 72mm lens at $562
Price include GST. Cash price

They mentioned that stock coming in on Wed.

not that bad a price after all.

 

[obfuscate]

If any of you out there buys this, please tell us how the AF performs.

 

[blueweed]

just got this the gxr and the a12.

af is SLOW, I tried on my garden chairs around 7pm and the af would sometime go on re-focusing.

the snap focus is nice, but I couldn't get snap+af to work for me despite setting the distances. manual focus feels 'laggy'.

however, as a first time ricoh user i must say the UI is very nice, SLR fanbois will be very happy everything is accessible by the right hand alone.

also the auto whitebalance for indoor is actually usuable. in addition, iso1600 in my short test is very usable, the grains are just grains, not intrusive.

btw, please if anyone figure out how to focus fast or have af tips pls do share lol!

 

[obfuscate]

I read that you can turn off the macro mode on the A12 to make the AF faster. Does it work for you?

 

[blueweed]

macro mode turns off by default. actually the macro mode is just a nifty button by itself you can press above the menu dial...pretty well placed.

I had a quick go at the s10 demo module earlier which i thought was fast af...but no aps-c sensor...

 

[blurry80]

In manual mode does it still have the dof preview bar?

 

[artspraken]

Please can u time the AF as suggested here and post a screenshot for us. It will be a big help in understanding the precise speed of the AF.

Can you perform the following test:
Load the following web page into your browser: http://www.online-stopwatch.com/full-screen-stopwatch/
Then start the stop watch. As it runs take a shot of the screen every 5 seconds for 10 or more shots. Then stating at a time of your choosing shoot the screen in continuous mode for a burst. In the first set throw out any shots were you failed to anticipate the right start time to press the shutter and using the remaining images collect the shutter times. For example if you picked every 5 seconds the time would show as 5 + some time in milliseconds, then 10 + some time in milliseconds, etc. Give us the average time from the set. The second set should show shot to shot time which you can average for the series. That will give us a good approximation of the AF performance in good light (the screen is bright and the clock provides a good high contrast image). Of course this includes your reaction time but I suspect that will be a small part of the total.

I learnt this from barjohn. credits to him
http://ricohforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=3682&start=20#p15505

 

[artspraken]

http://www.waloszek.de/gxr.html

Mr waloszek's GXR page with details of his new GXR

 

[artspraken]

So far, based on what I read, it seems AF is slow. but dunno exactly how slow until tests are performed.

From samples, it is clear the A12 is fantastic portrait camera and gives powerful creamy bokeh

Image below shows portrait and bokeh goodness

This image is courtesy of Mr Wouter and the original link is provided to his post
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1013&thread=33998594&page=2