Reducing 16-85mm Lens Flare

[lsisaxon]

hi,

today i bought D90 kit lens and a UV filter. The salesman sold me this filter Vitacon at 20S$. Is it as good as hoya? I just afraid that he would cheat me.

Then you shouldn't have bought first. There's always another time where you can pop in to buy after you've done your homework. If you really need a cheap and good filter, go at least for a Hoya Pro1 Digital MC Protector, nothing less.

For myself, I'll get Nikon NC whenever I can. Many places don't carry stock for NC which can be quite frustrating.

 

[Octarine]

so u mean...this Vitacon is crappy? not as good as Hoya? nvm...i will go down to the shop again and blame the guy...how come he dare to sell crappy thing to a noob like me

Will that help anything? Think twice. And next time think before you buy. You are still somewhat lucky that you only paid 20 bucks for that piece of glass. Other unknowing people were charged twice that price or even more.
Short and brutal: Don't enter a shop if you have no clue about what you want to buy. Knowledge is your only protection against sales men who's only target is to sell. Sales men don't bother at all whether you need the stuff. They only care about the profit they can make. Your humble idea of not cheating noobs is totally alien to them. If they can they will talk your ears off till they can sell the Vitacon filter to you for 100 bucks without regrets and remorse. Hands off from all shops in Sim Lim (except Orient Photo, 6th floor)!
As a first precaution: Read before you even enter any shop. Know exactly what you need and why you need it. If you don't know stay away and safe your money.
Secondly: stick to shops which are considered reputable (check the consumer threads or Canon / Nikon sections). Chances are lower (but not zero!) that you get overcharged there.
Thirdly: Never assume honest and humble attitude from a sales person. At the end of the day it's about his salary and rice bowl. Be glad if you encounter helpful and friendly staff.

Back to topic: Read about filters, learn about the purpose, usage and limitations. This forum has already a lot of threads. You can also search with Google and you'll find lot's of information. Read them all and try to understand. If you still have questions just post them here.

 

[Saycheese78]

You don't even have to switch to B+W. Hoya has several ranges also. You should not experience the internal reflections even with a Hoya HMC, but I'd suggest you go for the Pro1Digital.

Well.. Guess what, I went to buy a B+W and came back with a Hoya Pro 1 Digital.

Anyway I came up with the conclusion besides the all important conclusion of no filter is the best Filter.

1) with a decent filter like Hoya Pro 1 Digital, there should be minimum flare unless you shoot directly at light source at the side. If you were to do that with a UV filter, you are asking for trouble.

2) If you need to shoot directly at light source (sun rise), what in the world are you doing with UV filter. You should be shooting with a Polarizer or a Gradual Grey Filter (Whatever you call that). Arggh need to spend more $.. haha.... Hmm maybe Cokin

3) Most of the time, I don;t think you will expect your filter to be so clean that it is in tip top condition. So, the dust or worse finger print is going to give you your lens Flare.

4) Something I had not been doing religiously. CLEAN Your EQUIPMENT EVERY TIME YOU SHOOT!

So, just shoot and be happy.

 

[Octarine]

4) Something I had not been doing religiously. CLEAN Your EQUIPMENT EVERY TIME YOU SHOOT!

You shouldn't even start with it .. I mean doing it religiously. Not healthy for you and the camera. Also, try cleaning equipment latest before the shooting or earliest after the shooting. I heard that will improve picture quality during shooting

 

[MrJelly]

Will that help anything? Think twice. And next time think before you buy. You are still somewhat lucky that you only paid 20 bucks for that piece of glass. Other unknowing people were charged twice that price or even more.
Short and brutal: Don't enter a shop if you have no clue about what you want to buy. Knowledge is your only protection against sales men who's only target is to sell. Sales men don't bother at all whether you need the stuff. They only care about the profit they can make. Your humble idea of not cheating noobs is totally alien to them. If they can they will talk your ears off till they can sell the Vitacon filter to you for 100 bucks without regrets and remorse. Hands off from all shops in Sim Lim (except Orient Photo, 6th floor)!
As a first precaution: Read before you even enter any shop. Know exactly what you need and why you need it. If you don't know stay away and safe your money.
Secondly: stick to shops which are considered reputable (check the consumer threads or Canon / Nikon sections). Chances are lower (but not zero!) that you get overcharged there.
Thirdly: Never assume honest and humble attitude from a sales person. At the end of the day it's about his salary and rice bowl. Be glad if you encounter helpful and friendly staff.

Back to topic: Read about filters, learn about the purpose, usage and limitations. This forum has already a lot of threads. You can also search with Google and you'll find lot's of information. Read them all and try to understand. If you still have questions just post them here.

Actually, I did research, but forget to research on filter b4 go there. The camera shop is Lords, Lucky Plaza. I hope still can change to Hoya. Dont tell me they dont sell Hoya. What's the price for UV 67 mm? No where in the forum can find the price for this.

 

[Octarine]

Actually, I did research, but forget to research on filter b4 go there. The camera shop is Lords, Lucky Plaza. I hope still can change to Hoya.

Unlikely, sold is sold. I don't go to Lord anymore, had my share of experience with them and that's enough. My recommendations is MS Color in AMK.

Dont tell me they dont sell Hoya. What's the price for UV 67 mm? No where in the forum can find the price for this.

Can't imagine that they don't have Hoya. Here is a link for Mass Sales, street pricing is a couple of bucks higher. http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=430856 Eugene is a good and reliable seller, got other filters from him. Could be an alternative to these guys in Lords.
But I suggest reading first. Only buy if you are really convinced that you need the filter (and you know why you need it). Don't buy just because (nearly) everybody has it or for the sake of having it. Two filters give the price of a small dry cabinet - it protects all your equipment and not only one lens.

 

[mutant]

I got my 67mm Hoya UV Coated for $20 at MS Color recently.

 

[lsisaxon]

Well.. Guess what, I went to buy a B+W and came back with a Hoya Pro 1 Digital.

Anyway I came up with the conclusion besides the all important conclusion of no filter is the best Filter.

1) with a decent filter like Hoya Pro 1 Digital, there should be minimum flare unless you shoot directly at light source at the side. If you were to do that with a UV filter, you are asking for trouble.

2) If you need to shoot directly at light source (sun rise), what in the world are you doing with UV filter. You should be shooting with a Polarizer or a Gradual Grey Filter (Whatever you call that). Arggh need to spend more $.. haha.... Hmm maybe Cokin

3) Most of the time, I don;t think you will expect your filter to be so clean that it is in tip top condition. So, the dust or worse finger print is going to give you your lens Flare.

4) Something I had not been doing religiously. CLEAN Your EQUIPMENT EVERY TIME YOU SHOOT!

So, just shoot and be happy.

Hahaha.. you only have to clean your equipment when there is a need. As long as you don't soil the filter, there is no reason why you should be cleaning it religiously.

Cokin isn't very good also. ;p