Recommendation for Macro Lens


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dannynys said:
Hi Vivien,

I think there are quite a number of alternatives to your problem! What I suggest is to take a look at your budget. Let me advise you on your options available

1. Close Up Filters
This is the cheapest option. However, it suffers from problems like distortion, the only place that doesn't suffer from that is the centre of the picture. I doubt you can really get macro pictures with your current lens plus this filter.

2. Third Party Lenses
This option will probably set you back around $500++. Third party lenses are just the cheaper version of the original( 50% of originals ). I got a Sigma 105mm F2.8 Macro lens. I got quite good results from this lens, in fact I am using it for my nature photography course. The only different between this and original lenses are probably the optics. Optics makes a lot of different in colour rendition and also sharpness. I would recommend this option if you are tight on budget.

3. Original Lenses
What can i say? This is the best option also the most expensive one $1000++. If you can spend on it, it will be worth the investment. Of course some say that the 2nd hand price is better. Well, of course lah, if you are spending so much, the selling price will definitely be higher!

With all said, I think getting a new lens will definitely be better than filters. If you really can't affort 3rd party lenses, I don't suggest you even to buy the filters. Sooner or later, you would want to get the lens! Macro Lenses work well both in nature macro photography and also can be used in portrait photography. It's a good investment.

Hope you will find the best option!

Cheers,
Danny Ng

Thanks Danny! That really helps! I will spend some time to really think abt all the available options. :)
 

vader said:
Agree with Danny, don't waste your time and chance you got to sqeeze your mom :devil: . save up the money for the true stuff---> macro lens.... me got no one to sqeeze... :cry: but my own pockets....

Hiyo, u sounded as if I'm really a butcher out to slaughter my mum! :o I won't have the heart to make someone spend so much money on me ;) Will top up the balance from the ang pow she gives me :D
 

vivientan said:
Hiyo, u sounded as if I'm really a butcher out to slaughter my mum! :o I won't have the heart to make someone spend so much money on me ;) Will top up the balance from the ang pow she gives me :D


Okok, good daughter. :bsmilie: but wanna spend, spend wisely. And let your mum know the results of the lens she co-sponsor.
 

vader said:
Okok, good daughter. :bsmilie: but wanna spend, spend wisely. And let your mum know the results of the lens she co-sponsor.

;) I'm never an impulsive buyer, which is why I wanna ask around & do my research first before deciding on what to get. In order to show my mum that her money didn't go down the drain, I gotta brush up my photography skills! And that's a challenge! :sweat:
 

In addition to Danny's advice on the solutions to macro photography, I would like to add another option named the extension tube solution. It does not decrease the sharpness of the optics or increase distortion. However, some extension tubes only supports Manual focus. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: No need for additional lens.

Maybe someone can fill in the blank with regards to price.
 

forbytes said:
In addition to Danny's advice on the solutions to macro photography, I would like to add another option named the extension tube solution. It does not decrease the sharpness of the optics or increase distortion. However, some extension tubes only supports Manual focus. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: No need for additional lens.

Maybe someone can fill in the blank with regards to price.

If I'm not wrong (pls correct me if I'm wrong), extension tubes may result in loss of light transmission due to passages of air between the camera and the lens. This indirectly reduces the depth of field or causes slow shutter speed. Result : pictures that run out of focus. Also, I think they make the camera real bulky? For eg, you will need 50mm of extention tubes for a 50mm lens to achieve a 1:1 magnification.

Kenko is one 3rd party lens I know which offers auto focus.
 

vivientan said:
If I'm not wrong (pls correct me if I'm wrong), extension tubes may result in loss of light transmission due to passages of air between the camera and the lens. This indirectly reduces the depth of field or causes slow shutter speed. Result : pictures that run out of focus. Also, I think they make the camera real bulky? For eg, you will need 50mm of extention tubes for a 50mm lens to achieve a 1:1 magnification.

Kenko is one 3rd party lens I know which offers auto focus.

Apparently you did your homework :D

Yes, those things are true, but the question is also how often do you need 1:1, if not you can use less. Another problem you might have is that you do not have any prime lens at the moment, and the use of extension tube is best done with prime lens, so that will be additional expenses if you decide to get one.

About the out of focus thing, I don't think you can run away from this even with macro lens. Due to the large manification and close distance, stabilization is an important issue with macro. You still need the tripod etc........
 

vivientan said:
If I'm not wrong (pls correct me if I'm wrong), extension tubes may result in loss of light transmission due to passages of air between the camera and the lens. This indirectly reduces the depth of field or causes slow shutter speed. Result : pictures that run out of focus. Also, I think they make the camera real bulky? For eg, you will need 50mm of extention tubes for a 50mm lens to achieve a 1:1 magnification.

Kenko is one 3rd party lens I know which offers auto focus.

Yes :) .... but slow shutter speed maybe not be too obvious ;) .....

Anyway ..... do you want my extension tube? FOC :) .....
 

blurblock said:
Yes :) .... but slow shutter speed maybe not be too obvious ;) .....

Anyway ..... do you want my extension tube? FOC :) .....

How come you have so many items to give away FOC? :bigeyes:

Anyway, Frisky just said that there's no pt using an extension tube when I don't own any prime lens.
 

vivientan said:
How come you have so many items to give away FOC? :bigeyes:

Anyway, Frisky just said that there's no pt using an extension tube when I don't own any prime lens.

I won't exactly say there is no pt lar, but rather for best results. :)

I do have a 50mm f/1.4 that I can loan out, as per the offers in the Newbie Corner. So if you want can try it out.

Blurblock, why not add the extention tube to the list? :)
 

frisky said:
I won't exactly say there is no pt lar, but rather for best results. :)

I do have a 50mm f/1.4 that I can loan out, as per the offers in the Newbie Corner. So if you want can try it out.

Blurblock, why not add the extention tube to the list? :)


50mm extension tube not very long what? Just 5 cm only right? I was thinking along the lines of 100mm or more...... that would be really bulky.......
 

frisky said:
I won't exactly say there is no pt lar, but rather for best results. :)

I do have a 50mm f/1.4 that I can loan out, as per the offers in the Newbie Corner. So if you want can try it out.

Blurblock, why not add the extention tube to the list? :)

OK :) .... Adding extension tube to "loan to newbies for free list" :).

But .... wow .... if you put a 50mm onto the extension tube, you will need to put the the camera as near as 50mm from your subject inorder to take a picture of it .... whahahahaha
 

vivientan said:
How come you have so many items to give away FOC? :bigeyes:

Anyway, Frisky just said that there's no pt using an extension tube when I don't own any prime lens.


U want to know why? Take a look at this thread lor :) ..... Nobody wants mah, the tube I got it from a photography shop (which has since joined the great camera junkyard up there) about 5 years ago for a price of one lunch ($5) when he is closing down. whahahahahahhaha..... That thing if you buy from camera shop, u will have to pay about 70 - 100 $ ;).

http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=53016

Anyway, Frisky never said there is no pt using an extension tube with zoom lens, he just said an extension tube works best with a prime lens. Partially because prime lens is often faster then Zoom lens. A good prime lens can often has aperture as high as f/1.4 ..... and f/1.8 is nothing special for prime lens. But for zoom lens, it is already seldom you see lens with constant f/2.8 not to mention fstop higher. And partially because prime lens focusing speed is alot faster them zoom too.

If you just want to "play play" with marco feature, taking "non moving" object such as flower, using the slower zoom lens with extension tube is ok. However, if you want to take moving object such as a frog, chances are a faster lens is recommend, as you would not know if the frong will jump suddenly.
 

blurblock said:
OK :) .... Adding extension tube to "loan to newbies for free list" :).

But .... wow .... if you put a 50mm onto the extension tube, you will need to put the the camera as near as 50mm from your subject inorder to take a picture of it .... whahahahaha

Well, you should try reverse lens :)

Also, aren't the trend towards pressing the lens right next to the subject, judging by all the ads about 2cm min focus and the like :bsmilie:
 

vader said:
Go Go Go, Buy Buy Buy!! good lens...


Pity I dun shoot portrait...
 

vivientan said:
Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced macro lens with acceptable performance? My birthday is coming soon, so I wanna make use of this once a year affair to slaughter my mum! :bsmilie:


I know a very nice one, Minolta 100mm, costs about € 1000
:o
 

so Vivien, have you gotten your macro lens? I guess your birthday is over by now? :blah:
 

yeocolin said:
so Vivien, have you gotten your macro lens? I guess your birthday is over by now? :blah:

Someone gave me an extension tube. Hehe...coincidentally, today's my birthday :bsmilie:

The Minolta 100mm is too expensive, my mum will hang herself if I ask her for it. Slowly save up the money lor... :(
 

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