[ Product Discussion ] - Olympus E-5 hand on _thought and sample pic

[theITguy]

Yes bro it's tool but the tool must also help you with what ever it is use for, I am nt saying E-620 not capable... when everybody complains the IQ/noise I was not to me E620 form factor is perfect I'm a hobbyst and bought my cam to capture family moments and I thank my E620 coz it also open my eyes to art.... I have some amature/beginner's shots that my friends love... To me my only problem is the AF speed just tad slow for my kids... Solution is to use flash and burst mode which i do alot before but sometimes those cant work...

Once again not everyone in the photography grows from PnS - pro-consumer - Entry DSLR to Pro... Some would want to stay in m4/3 some of you want to stay in Pro models etc. I and ohers like me just happy to be in this range ofcourse we also expect some upgrades from our line up. If life is simple Yes or No we wont be here anymore arguing we will just buy either m4/3 or E5 plain period

Thanks all for the warm welcome in Oly family when I first came here and still thank you for those who remain a friend even I have switch camp (not totally yet). I hope one day I'll be back here again

Obviously the E620 is not something that will work for your kids and since you need a solution, you have to move on. The only thing you can afford to be sad is the glass and form factor you are giving up.

To be sad because Olympus never produce/announce the next E6X0 is like judging Olympus on an empty promise, which Olympus never make. All they say is the system will continue to exist, which can also mean they will just continue to support its users like servicing, firmware updates etc. It does not mean that they will produce new cameras. Olympus has abandon users before and will continue to do so based on their track record. As long as the profit is not there to sustain the business, they will axe the product line. It is not as if they have a hardcore follower base like that of Leica/Hasseblad to begin with.

Yes, there is no such thing as buy m4/3 or E5 plain period, straight yes or no.

 

[albertri]

Obviously the E620 is not something that will work for your kids and since you need a solution, you have to move on. The only thing you can afford to be sad is the glass and form factor you are giving up.

To be sad because Olympus never produce/announce the next E6X0 is like judging Olympus on an empty promise, which Olympus never make. All they say is the system will continue to exist, which can also mean they will just continue to support its users like servicing, firmware updates etc. It does not mean that they will produce new cameras. Olympus has abandon users before and will continue to do so based on their track record. As long as the profit is not there to sustain the business, they will axe the product line. It is not as if they have a hardcore follower base like that of Leica/Hasseblad to begin with.

Yes, there is no such thing as buy m4/3 or E5 plain period, straight yes or no.

yes bro I really hope Oly would continue it's E-XXX body.. or maybe one day I'll go hardcore in photography then I will be joining you guys in E5 community :thumbsup: for now I have alot to learn and to experience I am very very new in DSLR, mainly my photos all around my family an occational street, landscape and architecture. So that could be the reason I am reluctant to go E30 or even E3/E5.. Even my brother been telling me to get D90 and my friend to get 60D I all turn it down due to form factor... I feel I am not yet ready for those camera and would not enjoy them but hopefully one day my photography will mature and will start eyeing those type of DSLR

Going back to E5 any idea how much will be the street price in Singapore and what lens it will come with?

 

[theITguy]

Going by your encounters (your brother and friends asking you to buy D90 or 60D), you know what you need rather than want. That is commendable.

FYI, I no longer own an E System product (neither a PEN). I have since move on back to film. I think I can do better with a compact than some with a DSLR. DSLR is overkill in most cases. We need to be realistic on who prints nowadays. I remembered I printed 500 photos from my Korean trip and got a reaction by my friends.

To me, a compact is more than enough (80-90% of the time), unless you print or do specialty photography. All those things about Bokeh, speed, high ISO etc, pointless if you are not going to print big.

 

[albertri]

Going by your encounters (your brother and friends asking you to buy D90 or 60D), you know what you need rather than want. That is commendable.

FYI, I no longer own an E System product (neither a PEN). I have since move on back to film. I think I can do better with a compact than some with a DSLR. DSLR is overkill in most cases. We need to be realistic on who prints nowadays. I remembered I printed 500 photos from my Korean trip and got a reaction by my friends.

To me, a compact is more than enough (80-90% of the time), unless you print or do specialty photography. All those things about Bokeh, speed, high ISO etc, pointless if you are not going to print big.

thanks bro wow back to film last time I had a film cam was Oly LS100 zoom way back 1997.

I think I have OT a lot already :lovegrin:

 

[arctos]

For arctos, perhaps AF assist from a FL-36 may help in focusing, not to mention that flash would help to freeze motion of your moving nephew, so you wouldn't get blur hands and feet. I have a FL-50R and the AF assist is very useful. AF locks alot faster than without assist, even in near complete darkness. Besides, I don't think getting a camera for its swivel screen is frivolous, to me that's a pretty major design update.

Haha I was considering getting a FL-36R (50R is a tad big) as Christmas present to myself, up until I broke my bro-in-law's tripod. :cry: Now trying to decide which is more "urgent". :sweat:

It's Olympus non-committal ways that worries us entry/mid-level users. Sure my current cam can last for a good 2-3 years (and that's what I intend to do while waiting for clearer signal from Olympus), but not knowing if there's going to be anything for me in the future kinda makes one fearful to commit to the system. "Yeah so what if you got the best, affordable glass in the world? If you don't give me a suitable body to use it with, I ain't gonna buy it" kind of sums up mine and albertri's sentiments for now I think.

But let us not detract too long from the original purpose of this thread. Now will some kind soul with deep pockets please show us what the production e5 can do next month? :devil:

 

[bousozoku]

thanks bro wow back to film last time I had a film cam was Oly LS100 zoom way back 1997.

I think I have OT a lot already :lovegrin:

Don't you mean IS-100 or was it a voice recorder?

 

[napalmdog]

Production unit review/testing (Russian)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Folympus.ourlife.ru%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D16116

 

[albertri]

Don't you mean IS-100 or was it a voice recorder?

oh yeah sorry IS 100 (28-110mm) :bsmilie: with panorama

 

[K3N]

Tried the Olympus E-5 and had the chance to scrutinize some pictures thanks to DiCam.

Impressions is that the Olympus E-5 is a good camera. Images have good tonality and rich colour but not in a highly saturated way or boosted hues. The colour is still natural.

You can see fine detail and texture in hair, plain white t-shirt, white lace and dark gray road surface. All this without false colour information or rainbows. Some manufacturer's noise reduction or AA can make a gray road look smooth but you don't see it happening here. I think this is their fine-detail process at work. This is what people have been asking for. Remove the heavy AA filter without introducing moire. :thumbsup: I think this camera might be interesting for people who photograph clothing or products.

ISO-400 is like ISO-100 on the E-3 and the colour banding in the dark areas of a scene is gone. Not sure how the camera performs at mid-day but you can see fine texture in a white shirt and black hair in the same scene in morning light.

 

[microcosm]

Tried the Olympus E-5 and had the chance to scrutinize some pictures thanks to DiCam.

Impressions is that the Olympus E-5 is a good camera. Images have good tonality and rich colour but not in a highly saturated way or boosted hues. The colour is still natural.

You can see fine detail and texture in hair, plain white t-shirt, white lace and dark gray road surface. All this without false colour information or rainbows. Some manufacturer's noise reduction or AA can make a gray road look smooth but you don't see it happening here. I think this is their fine-detail process at work. This is what people have been asking for. Remove the heavy AA filter without introducing moire. :thumbsup: I think this camera might be interesting for people who photograph clothing or products.

ISO-400 is like ISO-100 on the E-3 and the colour banding in the dark areas of a scene is gone. Not sure how the camera performs at mid-day but you can see fine texture in a white shirt and black hair in the same scene in morning light.

Sounds sweet. Looks like they have solved quite a number of problems with the E3 with this release.

How is live view performance? Fast?

 

[diCam]

Tried the Olympus E-5 and had the chance to scrutinize some pictures thanks to DiCam.

Impressions is that the Olympus E-5 is a good camera. Images have good tonality and rich colour but not in a highly saturated way or boosted hues. The colour is still natural.

You can see fine detail and texture in hair, plain white t-shirt, white lace and dark gray road surface. All this without false colour information or rainbows. Some manufacturer's noise reduction or AA can make a gray road look smooth but you don't see it happening here. I think this is their fine-detail process at work. This is what people have been asking for. Remove the heavy AA filter without introducing moire. :thumbsup: I think this camera might be interesting for people who photograph clothing or products.

ISO-400 is like ISO-100 on the E-3 and the colour banding in the dark areas of a scene is gone. Not sure how the camera performs at mid-day but you can see fine texture in a white shirt and black hair in the same scene in morning light.

Hi K3N,

I'm glad you came and see the pictures for yourself. It was a tiring yet fruitful Saturday afternoon with people crowded around me scrutinising the pictures on my laptop. You are one of them that had seen my work-flow. I hope you went back with your questions answered and doubts cleared.

Together with one other photography-enthusiast, we have build a simple web presence to host some of the images taken with an initial production set of E-5. The intention is to share, not compare.

E-5 PhotoBlog

Where time permits, more images will be uploaded. I can see at least 2 other photography-enthusiasts contributing. HD video clips is next on the line.

 

[diCam]

Sounds sweet. Looks like they have solved quite a number of problems with the E3 with this release.

How is live view performance? Fast?

The Hybrid AF is taken out in E-5.

Live View performance has improved, especially CDAF. Its fast and snappy in most situation as compare to existing Olympus lineup.

 

[albertri]

Hi K3N,

I'm glad you came and see the pictures for yourself. It was a tiring yet fruitful Saturday afternoon with people crowded around me scrutinising the pictures on my laptop. You are one of them that had seen my work-flow. I hope you went back with your questions answered and doubts cleared.

Together with one other photography-enthusiast, we have build a simple web presence to host some of the images taken with an initial production set of E-5. The intention is to share, not compare.

E-5 PhotoBlog

Where time permits, more images will be uploaded. I can see at least 2 other photography-enthusiasts contributing. HD video clips is next on the line.

Saw Robin Wong from Malaysia did his photo shot review of E5 and what can I say execpt :thumbsup::thumbsup: very good camera specially on the hand of a very good photographer!

I love the combo of E5 and 50mm F2 on his macro shot it was razor sharp that could kill (to the point it hurts my eyes, just joking) :bsmilie:

And he was emphasizing the fast AF, that is something I am dreaming of from my E620! Again I can’t wait to see how Olympus utilizes these new improvements to their other DSLR line up. C’mon Oly don’t waste the opportunity to win over more user to Olympus! Release more E-XXX with E5 improvements!

 

[microcosm]

The Hybrid AF is taken out in E-5.

Live View performance has improved, especially CDAF. Its fast and snappy in most situation as compare to existing Olympus lineup.

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Does this mean that it is more like a PEN now, in terms of AF response? What about non CDAF enabled lenses? How is the AF response like as compared to a PEN? I use a lot of Live View in events photography, and therefore this is something interesting.

Hybrid was a pain because it was painfully slow...

 

[spidey89]

The AF works like CDAF,just slow, but it's better(to me at leasT) since mirror doesn't slap down making it easier to compose

 

[diCam]

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Does this mean that it is more like a PEN now, in terms of AF response? What about non CDAF enabled lenses? How is the AF response like as compared to a PEN? I use a lot of Live View in events photography, and therefore this is something interesting.

Hybrid was a pain because it was painfully slow...

The CDAF response is definitely better than any of the PEN right now. I cannot quantify the speed in technical terms but it is generally more responsive.

I'd shot CDAF with 14-35mm SWD on a recent outing at BMT Graduation Parade. It was shot at night and under street light condition. CDAF is fast, snappy. There is an attempt to nail the focus instead of hunting. On a dimmer situation (in woods) it will hunt. I'll post one picture (if possible, tonight) to show you the situation.

I'd have thought that 14-54mm MK II will performance better, since this lens is designed to optimised CDAF. Unfortunately, I do not have a chance to try.

I agree that Hybrid AF is awfully painfully slow. :sweat:

 

[microcosm]

The CDAF response is definitely better than any of the PEN right now. I cannot quantify the speed in technical terms but it is generally more responsive.

I'd shot CDAF with 14-35mm SWD on a recent outing at BMT Graduation Parade. It was shot at night and under street light condition. CDAF is fast, snappy. There is an attempt to nail the focus instead of hunting. On a dimmer situation (in woods) it will hunt. I'll post one picture (if possible, tonight) to show you the situation.

I'd have thought that 14-54mm MK II will performance better, since this lens is designed to optimised CDAF. Unfortunately, I do not have a chance to try.

I agree that Hybrid AF is awfully painfully slow. :sweat:

This improved E3 is really good news. I do think that E-3 owners would welcome this improvement, since the image quality improvements alone justify the upgrade. And all the other functions like Live View performance (since it is pretty much tied to the video functionality) is a big welcome. Looks like this new camera has great improvements internally.

I still have to frown at the form factor, but internally, I think Olympus delivered a better camera than the original E-3.

Shall wait for the final release to see if it really is worth getting the flagship thumbs up.

Last question.

Battery life and performance in harsh conditions (like heat). Heating issues (it existed on some E-3s when it was first released). Any thoughts?

 

[albertri]

This improved E3 is really good news. I do think that E-3 owners would welcome this improvement, since the image quality improvements alone justify the upgrade. And all the other functions like Live View performance (since it is pretty much tied to the video functionality) is a big welcome. Looks like this new camera has great improvements internally.

I still have to frown at the form factor, but internally, I think Olympus delivered a better camera than the original E-3.

Shall wait for the final release to see if it really is worth getting the flagship thumbs up.

Last question.

Battery life and performance in harsh conditions (like heat). Heating issues (it existed on some E-3s when it was first released). Any thoughts?

I think slowly E5 is growing in you bro I myself dont like E5 before but slowly I beginning to like it... sadly like you the form factor is the reason why I am not jumping in... and also to me (alone) the price:bsmilie:

 

[microcosm]

I think slowly E5 is growing in you bro I myself dont like E5 before but slowly I beginning to like it... sadly like you the form factor is the reason why I am not jumping in... and also to me (alone) the price:bsmilie:

Being objective and stating facts about improvements on the E-5 does not mean it is growing in me. The camera that is capable of that is the Pentax 645D. Not the E-5. By miles. I give credit where credit is due. Still not compelling me to buy it. What is lacking now in the E-3, I am able to do it in software. Spend a little more effort maybe, but it gives me what I want. The "feel" of things are more important than specs.

 

[albertri]

Being objective and stating facts about improvements on the E-5 does not mean it is growing in me. The camera that is capable of that is the Pentax 645D. Not the E-5. By miles. I give credit where credit is due. Still not compelling me to buy it. What is lacking now in the E-3, I am able to do it in software. Spend a little more effort maybe, but it gives me what I want. The "feel" of things are more important than specs.

I am starting to get soft in E5 but then again I cant really afford it nor like the size... but comparing it to my current Oly setup this is a huge improvement specially if the AF is really than fast