PopPhoto.com: Sony A77 is the new King of APS-C DSLRs


You referring to the "Oly5..." rite? :bsmilie:

I never saw him drop by here.... anyways long time i haven't visited Oly sections I know some of them =)
 

I' surprised by the muted response here.

The sony minolta community seem to have matured much.
Taking reviews whether good or bad with a pinch of salt.

That's very good. Take more pics and let the photos do the talking!
we had recvd more abuse from various factions thru the years....ever since sony take over thing been rough for us guess we used to it
 

I never saw him drop by here.... anyways long time i haven't visited Oly sections I know some of them =)

hehe, at least i drop by abit here and there these days, both have nice people really ;) i suppose S.O.Ps get bashed more by others so some just get a little zealous..
The a77 is interesting, though i'm more a nex type user.
 

hehe, at least i drop by abit here and there these days, both have nice people really ;) i suppose S.O.Ps get bashed more by others so some just get a little zealous..
The a77 is interesting, though i'm more a nex type user.

i seldom visit C and N section mostly I try to peep at O and P so far I haven't really been bullied in these rooms. I hope the photos I've seen in one of the reviews really OOC I like the colors it's very natural colors even the skin tone, if you look at the photos you may not suspect it was taken using Sony cam... As Sony is known to saturated color specially the red
 

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LOL i did a search on that guy... LOL he's too pig-headed. more so than that Mirrorless-is-the-future proponent
 

LOL i did a search on that guy... LOL he's too pig-headed. more so than that Mirrorless-is-the-future proponent

hehe i saw the thread about Ep3 vs Nex7 it became m4/3 4/3 vs NEX/APSC and almost becomes Oly vs Sony lolz oh well it's hard to argue to ppl who has closed down thier rationale... you can try to agrue but what's the point? sometimes it's hard to be objective when you're talking to someone who's not =)
 

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albertri said:
hehe i saw the thread about Ep3 vs Nex7 it became m4/3 4/3 vs NEX/APSC and almost becomes Oly vs Sony lolz oh well it's hard to argue to ppl who has closed down thier rationale... you can try to agrue but what's the point? sometimes it's hard to be objective when you're talking to someone who's not =)

Yeah. Even when i am sharing real ownership experience as EP3, i also kenna wack for talking about the disadvantages of that camera. Compare it with GF3 i also kenna wack, so its no longer about m4/3 or 4/3 thread over there, rather the threads there are for Oly fanboys to talk only about all the good things only.

I already gave up sharing my experience over there. Just let those people go buy and experience themselves and talk only abou the good stuff but dun dare to talk about issues.
 

Yeah. Even when i am sharing real ownership experience as EP3, i also kenna wack for talking about the disadvantages of that camera. Compare it with GF3 i also kenna wack, so its no longer about m4/3 or 4/3 thread over there, rather the threads there are for Oly fanboys to talk only about all the good things only.

I already gave up sharing my experience over there. Just let those people go buy and experience themselves and talk only abou the good stuff but dun dare to talk about issues.

Yeah... I remember a long time ago when I "dared" to say that the Olys have a 2x crop factor, they were rabid and shouting that it's not a crop factor, it's a magnification factor! It can only be a crop factor if it's compared to a 35mm sensor but since Oly does not have those blah blah blah blah blah... To me, it's the same banana, but they are very proud of calling it a "magnification factor".
 

hehe i saw the thread about Ep3 vs Nex7 it became m4/3 4/3 vs NEX/APSC and almost becomes Oly vs Sony lolz oh well it's hard to argue to ppl who has closed down thier rationale... you can try to agrue but what's the point? sometimes it's hard to be objective when you're talking to someone who's not =)

where's the source bro? LOL
 

Yeah. Even when i am sharing real ownership experience as EP3, i also kenna wack for talking about the disadvantages of that camera. Compare it with GF3 i also kenna wack, so its no longer about m4/3 or 4/3 thread over there, rather the threads there are for Oly fanboys to talk only about all the good things only.

I already gave up sharing my experience over there. Just let those people go buy and experience themselves and talk only abou the good stuff but dun dare to talk about issues.

yeah saw some of you guys in the thread and read almost all the posting =) you wont win over to someone who doesnt want to listen. And for me why do we need to fight against each other oversome brand/system come to think these companies never paid us to do so we are actually paying them lolz. So me I wont argue much unless any brand/system pays me 1st =)
 

LOL reading it now. very very interesting HAHAHA.
 

quite funny actually... there they were, the MFT fanboys.. an aggrieved one and an oily one. both bashing sony then saying "oh wait. remember that it's the photographer and not the brand"

hypocrites!

:bsmilie:
 

hehe i saw the thread about Ep3 vs Nex7 it became m4/3 4/3 vs NEX/APSC and almost becomes Oly vs Sony lolz oh well it's hard to argue to ppl who has closed down thier rationale... you can try to agrue but what's the point? sometimes it's hard to be objective when you're talking to someone who's not =)

bro, i guess it's hard for some to be rationale when the EP3 vs A77 thread was posted on 43/m43 forum, me sometimes included:)

Yeah. Even when i am sharing real ownership experience as EP3, i also kenna wack for talking about the disadvantages of that camera. Compare it with GF3 i also kenna wack, so its no longer about m4/3 or 4/3 thread over there, rather the threads there are for Oly fanboys to talk only about all the good things only.
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Hope i'm not the one ? bsmilie:

btw, isn't this A77 thread:confused:
 

bro, i guess it's hard for some to be rationale when the EP3 vs A77 thread was posted on 43/m43 forum, me sometimes included:)



Hope i'm not the one ? bsmilie:

btw, isn't this A77 thread:confused:

lolz someone started to OT and this thread goes to the sink lolz

I think you know the thread bro saw you posted also there about your 5n and EP3.

Anyways back to topic I think Nex7 will have the same issue as A77 when it comes to noise control unless Sony had a new fix for it =)
 

albertri said:
lolz someone started to OT and this thread goes to the sink lolz

I think you know the thread bro saw you posted also there about your 5n and EP3.

Anyways back to topic I think Nex7 will have the same issue as A77 when it comes to noise control unless Sony had a new fix for it =)

Actually after playing A77 for 2 days, i find the noise control quite decent. The trick is to turn off DRO and not to turn up too high saturation, use vivid mode seems to also improve a bit, esp the shadows area where the "std" profile seems to brighten up shadow areas therefore increasing noise level.

Up till iso1600, its quite on par with 5N, D7000, A580, G3 (yes its the m4/3 G3, i am surprised its performing similar). At iso3200, its still quite on par with 60D but looks a little noisier than the 4 cameras as above (yes, somehow the noise handling of G3 seems nicer looking, kudos to panny new sensor and jpeg processor).

But all the above are observed when i pixel peep at 100% crop with my nose ard 15cm from my pc screen. If you look at normal viewing distance and size, its not distinguishable from all cameras till iso6400.

Nex7 without the pellicle mirror should perform slightly better, but again only noticeable if u pixel peep.

However one thing to point out, i took the A77 out during lunch today to changi village, the colors are stunning even on a cloudy day today.

Btw saw from SAR that sony is coming out fw2.0 soon, so i guess sony is really working real hard to get this king working at its full potential.
 

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