pentax K-R start off


limitation?as in?

It really depends on the genes of photography you do. Give u one example
low light AF /AF under tungsten lighting.
KR particularly weak in this area (may misfocus) whereas K30 do not have this problem (due to improved AF feature.). BUT if u are an landscape /marco photographer. Its not a problem cos they normally manual focus anyway.
Every genes of photography have their own basic setup n minimum requirments. You are interested in shooting toys? Thats related to product shoot. So while researching on the suitable hardware n camera, you should also read up on basic product shooting techniques.
 

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It really depends on the genes of photography you do. Give u one example
low light AF /AF under tungsten lighting.
KR particularly weak in this area (may misfocus) whereas K30 do not have this problem (due to improved AF feature.). BUT if u are an landscape /marco photographer. Its not a problem cos they normally manual focus anyway.
Every genes of photography have their own basic setup n minimum requirments. You are interested in shooting toys? Thats related to product shoot. So while researching on the suitable hardware n camera, you should also read up on basic product shooting techniques.



Ah,okok i get it...and maybe i should read how K-R and product shoot goes...I have done some toy photos Using compact digi cam and friend's mirrorless..so far After tuning,i do manage to capture.just need a better LED lamp to light it up
 

yeah,i guess its all about the user...Unless the the different features is a big thing.

If you can, save up further for a K30. If not get the Kr and use it until you feel that really need a better camera with more pixels or other features.

I have 2 ex-students who got the Kr and are happy with the output. Of, two others, 1 collecting his K30 soon and anther is interested in getting a K50. Interestingly, he mentioned that his dad also has a K30 but had to send in for repair as someone knocked into him and the camera fell, breaking the mount. So his dad is also looking at the K50.

His dad is not in he forum though due to working long hours daily.
 

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Such toy shots you need manual control n hence focus peaking, k30 does it have focus peaking?

Maybe K-01 better
 

yeah,maybe i should get it from the advices received here...its not too bad for a start..though k-30 is way better.
 

yeah,maybe i should get it from the advices received here...its not too bad for a start..though k-30 is way better.

K30 /K50 is a major improvement over Kr. Its an almost perfect middle end camera at entry level price. IMO its even better then k5 n even holds its ground aganist the k5iis. Previously i gave upy k5 for k30.
 

K-r doesnt have those functions?
Kr has focus peaking, but dim low light shoot at low ISO is tough. I am not sure if K30 has focus peaking , but Kr, K01 has. My feeling is 16MP of K30 is much better than 12MP of Kr , if going to pixel peep.
 

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Kr has focus peaking, but dim low light shoot at low ISO is tough. I am not sure if K30 has focus peaking , but Kr, K01 has. My feeling is 16MP of K30 is much better than 12MP of Kr , if going to pixel peep.

K30 does have focus peaking. I used to wonder why K5II didn't have focus peaking just like the K30 :think:, though K5II is a better camera and

in many ways the K30 is as good as the K5II.
 

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If you can, save up further for a K30. If not get the Kr and use it until you feel that really need a better camera with more pixels or other features.

I have 2 ex-students who got the Kr and are happy with the output. 1 collecting his K30 soon and anther is interested in getting a K50. Interestingly, he mentioned that his dad also has a K30 but had to send in for repair as someone knocked into him and the camera fell, breaking the mount. So his dad is also looking at the K50.

His dad is not in he forum though due to working long hours daily.

seems like most pple u know using the KR had either upgraded, or are thinking of upgrading... that tells us something... no?

Such toy shots you need manual control n hence focus peaking, k30 does it have focus peaking?

Maybe K-01 better

K30 has focus peaking. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-30

and depending on your setup and what u're trying to shoot, may not need to manual focus lah.

for the kit lens at least - you're limited to min. focusing distance of 30cm at 50mm, with magnification of 0.25x. the kit lens can AF pretty ok under those circumstances.

MF makes more sense with 1:1 macro lenses at min. focusing distance as DOF is so shallow that it simply wont lock focus. the long focus throw and the back-and-forth hunting makes it even more irritating.

also, no focus peaking does not mean cannot MF - its done all the time. focus peaking just makes it a bit easier.

personally, i would rule out the K-01. i think TS would benefit from having an OVF.
 

seems like most pple u know using the KR had either upgraded, or are thinking of upgrading... that tells us something... no?

2 students who own the Kr are nt upgrading. I meant that 2 others are getting K30 and K50. Sorry for the wrong interpretation.
 

`now i get a clearer picture...I have asked alot of shops.only one have k-30 others no more..and...
2nd hand not much.hahaha.darn
 

`now i get a clearer picture...I have asked alot of shops.only one have k-30 others no more..and...
2nd hand not much.hahaha.darn

It's all in the timing. Just wait a bit and see what happens when the K3 hit the shelves...
 

I do have K 30 and may be looking to sell it off with eneloop package and so, currently at work so keep an eye on market while I can post only after work
 

I do have K 30 and may be looking to sell it off with eneloop package and so, currently at work so keep an eye on market while I can post only after work

if it includes lots of items.i dont think i can afford it.hahaha
 

Nar mine only body plus battery holder plus battery or you can PM me see your price range la.
 

K30 does have focus peaking. I used to wonder why K5II didn't have focus peaking just like the K30 :think:, though K5II is a better camera and in many ways the K30 is as good as the K5II.

What is that one upside of K50 versus K30?
 

What is that one upside of K50 versus K30?

Not much is stated but K50 is not WR whereas K500 is WR. Or is it the other way round?

But either way, the K30 is WR and the differences (advantage) that K50/500 has over K30 are:

a) 1 stop higher ISO ceiling. K50/500 goes to ISO 51,200 whereas K30 goes to ISO 25,600.

Sure, people will tell you no one shoots at such a high ISO due to crazy noise and loss of DR but in general, a higher ISO ceiling equates to better noise and DR at equiv. ISO...

b) there are lesser "jaggies" in the JPEG in the higher ISO (3200-26,500).

This don't really matter if you like to post process RAW but matters if you shoot JPEGs only.
Then again, web resolution (if it's your intention) it really won't be obvious at all.
 

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