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But size is size, in engineering, there is no compensating for lack of it.
That's the reason why m4/3 in particular can make smaller lens.
FOr me it's about the system. Full frame will also be the best if one peep 100%. No doubts about it.
 

That's the reason why m4/3 in particular can make smaller lens.FOr me it's about the system. Full frame will also be the best if one peep 100%. No doubts about it.
Nooope! If wanna pixel peep, medium format is the best !...Who's next to add somemore after me ? :bsmilie:
 

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Nooope! If wanna pixel peep, medium format is the best !...Who's next to add somemore after me ? :bsmilie:

OMG medium format... yep agree with Bro Ghostfit! but the price will kill you if not the heart attack!

now who wants to do pixel peeping here's a 80MP Mamiya backs medium Format! :-) Price? anyone? this will be realease June 2012 and here's the price

"Pricing for the Leaf Credo 40 starts at € 14,995/$19,495. The Leaf Credo 60 is listed at €24,995/$32,495 and the Leaf Credo 80 for € 29,995/$38,995." :bsmilie:

Mamiya Leaf announce Leaf Credo 80MP, 60MP and 40MP digital backs: Digital Photography Review
 

Hi, I have a NEX-5N with a few lenses but is titillated by the OM-D and what seemed to be respectable performance from a small package. I had the GF1 before moving to the NEX and one thing is sure - there are many m43 lenses available, they are small and are at much better price (usually) than comparable APS-C lenses.

Anyone thinking of looking at or moving to the OM-D?

I didn't want to ask this question at the m43 forum because the answers coming may be too predictable :) Thanks for any opinion.


If you want to use M-mount lenses, NEX is still better for the peaking and APS-C sized sensor.

If you don't care for m-lenses and other exotics, just want AF and auto modes, m4/3 in the form of GH2, GX1; G3, OMD are all highly viable for 85-95% of most general photographic needs.
 

Anyone thinking of looking at or moving to the OM-D?

Me coz I love the m43 AF lenses and I have already a few but I won't sell my 5N. :) It's still my preferred camera for full-frame MF lenses.
 

OMG medium format... yep agree with Bro Ghostfit! but the price will kill you if not the heart attack!

now who wants to do pixel peeping here's a 80MP Mamiya backs medium Format! :-) Price? anyone? this will be realease June 2012 and here's the price

"Pricing for the Leaf Credo 40 starts at € 14,995/$19,495. The Leaf Credo 60 is listed at €24,995/$32,495 and the Leaf Credo 80 for € 29,995/$38,995." :bsmilie:

Mamiya Leaf announce Leaf Credo 80MP, 60MP and 40MP digital backs: Digital Photography Review

Bro, theres rumours that Sony is working on a 100MP sensor !!! :hung:
 

Bro, theres rumours that Sony is working on a 100MP sensor !!! :hung:

ouch that's crazy but this will make the sensor pixel size smaller as they want to pack more into either APSC or FF size sensor.... as they say the bigger the pixel size the better so is that means smaller dense pixel is not really good or will have a bad effect?
 

albertri said:
ouch that's crazy but this will make the sensor pixel size smaller as they want to pack more into either APSC or FF size sensor.... as they say the bigger the pixel size the better so is that means smaller dense pixel is not really good or will have a bad effect?

Smaller definitely , if it's an organic sensor, the usual sensor constraints maybe pushed. Just look at how rearranging rgb array in the fuji x pro did to its iSO performance . :)

Let's keep finger crossed
 

Smaller definitely , if it's an organic sensor, the usual sensor constraints maybe pushed. Just look at how rearranging rgb array in the fuji x pro did to its iSO performance . :)

Let's keep finger crossed

yeah also we are seeing such huge leap in the mega pixel race the next question is are the current lens and lens technology could resolve these monster super dense sensor?

like this very nice article http://luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/resolution.shtml

Here's a copy of the conclusion from the author for those who get bored after reading one paragraph as it's very technical article :-(

"

Conclusions

So, do sensors outresolve lenses? It depends on the lens you use, the properties of the light, the aperture and the format. Small format sensors may have surpassed the limit, this is, in most cases they are lens-limited in terms of resolution. It is easier to correct aberrations for a smaller light circle though, so you can approach diffraction-limited resolutions for lower f-numbers. The signal-to-noise ratio, however, imposes an inflexible limit to the effective resolution of the whole system, mostly due to photon shot noise.

Sensors for larger formats are approaching the diffraction limit of real lenses, and it is more difficult to get high levels of aberration suppression for them. The point is that you cannot fully exploit the resolution potential of high-resolution sensors with regular mass-produced lenses, particularly for larger formats.

You cannot compare the limits of two different photographic systems looking at a print because the variables that determine the subjective perception come into play. Different systems can provide comparable results on paper under certain conditions (the circle of confusion reasoning explains how that is possible), but the limit of a system must be evaluated considering the pixel as the minimum circle of confusion.
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ouch that's crazy but this will make the sensor pixel size smaller as they want to pack more into either APSC or FF size sensor.... as they say the bigger the pixel size the better so is that means smaller dense pixel is not really good or will have a bad effect?

Remember how the early digitals used to wow us ? ...professionals were shooting with 5mp DSLR and I was more than happy with a 2mp camera (a Panasonic Lumix FX1)

Just 4 - 5 years back, I was shooting and printing 20" x 24" prints with a 8mp camera and happy with it.

But today, entry level cameras are at least 16mp and my flash is condemn to a slow death in the dry cab as the High ISO capability means no need flash. We have come just a short way with digital photography and who knows what the future holds but whatever it is, I will embrace the new technologies and reflect upon the past. ;)

I don't view higher MP as a bad thing, certainly I don't need more than 8MP for normal photography but the higher MP certainly allows more leeway when it comes to cropping !!!
 

Yup i think optics technology needs to keep up with sensor. I recall reading about patents about liquid lenses that can focus with some electronic charge. Will we see digital lenses ? Maybe and its interesting to see how technology is challenging existing norms. Cheers
 

OM-D looks big and ugly imho unlike my modern looking 5N. In terms of image quality, 5N is better because of the apsc sensor. Think quality first before form-factor & convenience when picking up your camera.
 

OM-D looks big and ugly imho unlike my modern looking 5N. In terms of image quality, 5N is better because of the apsc sensor. Think quality first before form-factor & convenience when picking up your camera.

everyone has their own opinion. one man's treasure might be another man's rubbish.

to me, the OM-D reminds me of the first camera i used when i was a kid. it was a Pentax. and also the second one, an Olympus. both film cameras. it has the retro feel that those who've used film will like and appreciate ;)
 

I need 60D and EM5 for daily use. Too many cameras and lenses are under use in dry cabinet
Buying and selling lose money and no time to use them all.
 

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I need 60D and EM5 for daily use. Too many cameras and lenses are under use in dry cabinet
Buying and selling lose money and no time to use them all.

its nice to have one big DSLR size body and smaller one like these mirrorless systems to compliment each other :)
 

U'll be happier to shoot with an OMD with ibis and a 25mm f1.4
Than a canon 60d with 50mm f1.8. :)
Weight, IQ, IS, 9fps, video blah~
 

irvinl said:
U'll be happier to shoot with an OMD with ibis and a 25mm f1.4
Than a canon 60d with 50mm f1.8. :)
Weight, IQ, IS, 9fps, video blah~

Not sure about 60D but for me ill still hold on to my A77 feature wise I think its still one of the best in the market. Not saying OMD is not capable cam the only thing that puts me off is the price can't justify the price its crazy exp it's almost the same price as A77. So for now ill stick with my trusty epl2 to complement my DSLR.
 

OM-D looks big and ugly imho unlike my modern looking 5N. In terms of image quality, 5N is better because of the apsc sensor. Think quality first before form-factor & convenience when picking up your camera.

btw, which high quality Lens do U match with the better sensor 5n:-)
 

just go buy the one you think fit your needs and if you're not sure, why don't you just borrow from friend or rent it and test is it the camera for you or not, all the talk about sensor size, sensor type, IQ, blah blah blah will not help you much
 

borrow or rent can save space in dry cabinet
 

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