wow. clap clap. A bit OT, you know I got deregistered for bitching about a similar thread closure? Unfortunately, that thread was not in this forum else I probably would still have my old nick. I thought people are mature enough to discuss brands freely.
A former 4/3rd user, I am also thinking of getting a FF camera. Not for the high ISO capabilities though but rather for the 35mm f1.4 DOF.
Actually for low light capabilities, what you gain in ISO, you lose out if you don't have IS. Actually with the 30mm sigma f1.4 you can actually shoot some pretty low light pictures. Furthermore, with the IS you can introduce some motion blur which can make your shot very interesting. Olympus has something nikon doesn't have, a stabilized f1.4 lens. That gives you ard 3 stops more, which is like comparing ISO3200 to ISO400.... I think olympus ISO400 is more than comparable to nikon's D3 ISO3200
Seriously, have you tried the 30mm f1.4? At ISO400/800, f1.4, shutter 1/8, you can shoot really low light stuff.
I am also thinking about full frame but definately not because of low light shooting.
looks like I'm being castrated for saying what I would like Olympus to have. I thought that having a wishlist for Olympus would helped in developing a future product that caters to the needs of the customers. After all, don't manufaturers have surveys to help them identify trends or customer's preferences ? I don't think my comments should be taken in a negative light and it was not meant to be negative.
I would have appreciated some positive comments on how to minimise noise, apart from the usual Noise Ninja, etc.. approach. I saw a colleague's ISO 64000 photo taken by a Canon Full Frame and was blown over by the lack of noise and saw a light at the end of the tunnel for my low light shots. He wasn't a pro too and didn't spend too much time on Photoshop.
It is unfortunate that all this was regarded as product bashing and you would have noticed that in all my comments, I've never targetted any negative comments at anyone. It was always about what I needed in a camera for the type of shots that I take and my observations on the industry trend. Anyways, since these comments are obviously not welcomed here, I'll stop. I must say though in any discussions, it would not be a thought provoking discussion if there are no alternative views. I always have interesting and sometimes heated debates with my friends, and at the end of the day, we are still friends. We agree to disagree.
as for "pisduck" question on trying out the f1.4 lens as a means to resolve the low light issue, I appreciate your constructive suggestion. One of the few in these discussions, however, most of my shots are shot at medium aperture, ie. F8 or thereabouts as most of my shots that are wide open (ie. F2.8) had focusing problems. A lens at F1.4 would have razor thin dof and based on my experience, it would have few keeper shots, due to focusing problems. I'm sure someone else more skilled than I would have a larger number of keeper shots.
I'm not blaming the camera for this state of affairs, it's just that I need a camera to suit my level of skills and expertise. Not everyone can afford the time nor inclination to hone their skills through years of dedication. The old adage " A bad carpenter always blames his tools " while may be true, but with today's technological advancements, a bad carpenter can produce work that equals that of a good carpenter, if he has the right tools to work with.
If you take a look at the progress of the cameras, the first generation cameras needed a lot of technical skills to determine aperture, speed, focus. The camera did not do this for you. Today's DSLR has fancy technology to do that for you so that the photographer can just focus on the composition and not have to make split second decisions on what aperture to use and at what shutter speed and at what focusing distance.
I take pictures because I like the end results of the pictures, the challenge of getting the right composition, without spending tedious amount of time in Photoshop for touch ups or in the technical aspects of it. That's just me. Someone else might relish the technical challenges to cope with the limitations of the camera. That wouldn't be me.
Anyway, as this thread will be deleted in a hour's time, I doubt that many people will be reading this. For folks that are reading this, there's a camera for everyone and I'm not forcing my views on you, just my objective observations on a little hobby of mine and what floats my boat.
