Nikon 70-200 AFS-VR 2.8 vs 80-200 AFS 2.8

[Ansel]

this weekend if not tired, will take more pic from 80-200 and post here ....


so got anything that 80-200 cant shoot but 70-200 can , will try it ...


now learn my handling skil to prevent hand shake.

any other tips beside pump higher ISO ?

Actually there is a trick known as "poor man's VR".

 

[scanner]

Actually there is a trick known as "poor man's VR".

Yeah, especially with DSLR.

 

[Ansel]

Yeah, especially with DSLR.

OK, I can't remember the URL of the webpage that talks about this, but luckily I remember the process. Yes, it applies to digital cameras only. OK this is what I remember of it:

This process is only useful if you do not have a fast moving subject. First switch your camera to continues shooting mode. Apply everything you know about how to properly hold the camera steady, then hold the shutter release and shoot 9 frames continuosly. check the 9 frames. One of them is bound to be sharp. Now, the twist to this is that you don't really need to look at all the frames one at a time to decide which one is the sharpest. Assuming you shoot JPG, when you look at the file sizes of the nine images, the one with the biggest file size is the sharpest! The sharpest file contains the most details and so will be the largest file(among the other 8), based on image compression logic.

Try it!

 

[gadrian]

OK, I can't remember the URL of the webpage that talks about this, but luckily I remember the process. Yes, it applies to digital cameras only. OK this is what I remember of it:

This process is only useful if you do not have a fast moving subject. First switch your camera to continues shooting mode. Apply everything you know about how to properly hold the camera steady, then hold the shutter release and shoot 9 frames continuosly. check the 9 frames. One of them is bound to be sharp. Now, the twist to this is that you don't really need to look at all the frames one at a time to decide which one is the sharpest. Assuming you shoot JPG, when you look at the file sizes of the nine images, the one with the biggest file size is the sharpest! The sharpest file contains the most details and so will be the largest file(among the other 8), based on image compression logic.

Try it!

Hmm interesting...

 

[Dennis]

Any reason behind ? Very interesting.

OK, I can't remember the URL of the webpage that talks about this, but luckily I remember the process. Yes, it applies to digital cameras only. OK this is what I remember of it:

This process is only useful if you do not have a fast moving subject. First switch your camera to continues shooting mode. Apply everything you know about how to properly hold the camera steady, then hold the shutter release and shoot 9 frames continuosly. check the 9 frames. One of them is bound to be sharp. Now, the twist to this is that you don't really need to look at all the frames one at a time to decide which one is the sharpest. Assuming you shoot JPG, when you look at the file sizes of the nine images, the one with the biggest file size is the sharpest! The sharpest file contains the most details and so will be the largest file(among the other 8), based on image compression logic.

Try it!

 

[Jed]

Aside from the file size thing, it's nothing new, people have been shooting 3 or more frame sequences with film for ages to improve their odds on getting a sharp picture. The reason being that the finger pressing the shutter button causes motion, and if your finger is not in motion down on the shutter button that cuts out another aspect of possible motion. That combined with the law of averages.

Mind you all this thread is going to do is convert more people into machine gun photography.

 

[gadrian]

Mind you all this thread is going to do is convert more people into machine gun photography.

We already have a few here in CS.. lol :bsmilie:

 

[Dennis]

Well i don't know but the magic number seems to be 9 frames. Maybe time to buy D2H LOL :bsmilie:

Aside from the file size thing, it's nothing new, people have been shooting 3 or more frame sequences with film for ages to improve their odds on getting a sharp picture. The reason being that the finger pressing the shutter button causes motion, and if your finger is not in motion down on the shutter button that cuts out another aspect of possible motion. That combined with the law of averages.

Mind you all this thread is going to do is convert more people into machine gun photography.

 

[obviousdude]

Mind you all this thread is going to do is convert more people into machine gun photography.

that'll just mean more business for sellers of memory cards, more lexar 1 gbs, and more 4gb mds!

 

[espn]

that'll just mean more business for sellers of memory cards, more lexar 1 gbs, and more 4gb mds!

Urm... there are already 2GB 4GB lexars floating in the market ... :devil:

 

[Jed]

There is no magic number.

 

[obviousdude]

Urm... there are already 2GB 4GB lexars floating in the market ... :devil:

so everybody BUY BUY BUY
and SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT!! :bsmilie:

 

[Beachboy]

here is the picture taken with my new 70-200vr



http://beachboy.fotopic.net/p6922657.html

 

[Beachboy]

another one ;p

http://beachboy.fotopic.net/p6923121.html


this will make more people BUY BUY BUY.........


ESPN when will you buy this lens .... always heard from you BUY BUY but you never buy ;p or you bought liau ...... ke ke ke ;p

 

[D2Hpeter]

OK, I can't remember the URL of the webpage that talks about this, but luckily I remember the process. Yes, it applies to digital cameras only. OK this is what I remember of it:

This process is only useful if you do not have a fast moving subject. First switch your camera to continues shooting mode. Apply everything you know about how to properly hold the camera steady, then hold the shutter release and shoot 9 frames continuosly. check the 9 frames. One of them is bound to be sharp. Now, the twist to this is that you don't really need to look at all the frames one at a time to decide which one is the sharpest. Assuming you shoot JPG, when you look at the file sizes of the nine images, the one with the biggest file size is the sharpest! The sharpest file contains the most details and so will be the largest file(among the other 8), based on image compression logic.

Try it!

Nikon coolpix camera has a BSS[Best shots selection] feature. Guess maybe working on the same principle. It takes 10 captures of the scene and select the sharpest.

 

[willyfoo]

Any reason behind ? Very interesting.

The JPEG algorithm compresses by spatial frequency, or by image detail. The less details there are in an image, JPEG compresses it better.

The JPEG compression algorithm compresses slight variations in colour/intensity between adjacent pixels better than larger variations.

This is the reason I use smart (edge) shapening... so the sharpening doesn't affect the areas which will increase the file size...

While most places I've read recommends sharpening after resizing, I do it before resising... so that after sizing down, the sharpening gets anti-aliased thus..
1 - smoothens out the sharpening artefacts making the image look more natural
2 - makes the file size just slightly smaller by removing the hard edges caused by shapening.

And yes... BSS works on that principle to select the sharpest image... I used to love that feature on my coolpix... now I use this technique a lot when I take handheld shots of a static object... choose the biggest filesize in JPG, then choose the corresponding NEF file to work on.