nikon 16-85mm or 18-200mm


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hey guys sorry for afk-ing i have busy catching with work as i am in my a lvl year(:

the 18-105 is certainly a great lens for its price considering its performance. the 16-85 is better than the 18-105 in terms of
1) build
2) distortion at the widest focal length
3) VR (16-85 has VR II while 18-105 has the older generation VR I)

another attractive point in my opinion is tat it is the only variable aperture lens with the nikon tag that is 2mm wider than the other DX travel lenses like 18-200, 18-135, 18-105 and 18-55 at the widest focal length

you're right. the 2mm is one of the reasons why i am considering this. i love the beautiful wide pictures with a little distortion. ive also encountered time why i wna take picture of landscape and building when i go overseas but its not wide enough. anyone has pictures to show?? that'll be good.
 

oh yeah guys, just to let you all know that actly i do have a 55-200mm, so one of the options is that i pair it up with the 16-85mm. the only issue i have is that the 55-200mm isnt sharp at tele end. and the af is a tad too noisy for my imo. anyone have the same issues at me for the 55-200mm?
 

16-85: Sharper, lighter, better build, wider, but less range
18-200: Less sharp, heavier, slightly worse build, much longer and more versatile, a prima donna

pros vs cons, you choose

ha, judging by ur comparison, all signs point towards me getting 16-85mm:)

I had both lens before, IQ of 16-85 is better, 18-200 is quite soft at the telephoto range and I can't stand its lens creep.

i rented the 18-200mm before for my overseas trip, the creep didnt affect me much, probably because i almost never had to point vertically upwards or downwards. the only problem i have is that at night im almost totally unable to shoot. even with flash, the lens is so long it blocks part of the light.

the 18-105 is certainly a great lens for its price considering its performance. the 16-85 is better than the 18-105 in terms of
1) build
2) distortion at the widest focal length
3) VR (16-85 has VR II while 18-105 has the older generation VR I)

another attractive point in my opinion is tat it is the only variable aperture lens with the nikon tag that is 2mm wider than the other DX travel lenses like 18-200, 18-135, 18-105 and 18-55 at the widest focal length

how much difference is there between the vr1 and vr2? ive only used my kit lens, 55-200mm, and rented an 18-200mm. the 18-200mm has vr2 isnt it? but i cant really tell the difference.

and irvine, when u say better in terms of distortion, do u mean the distortion is more/less obvious, or more pleasing to the eye or sth?

For u to decide on which lens to bring, I think u need to answer 2 simple questions.

a) are you a fussy photographer who cares every bit about sharpness? If you are, then I think it's logical to bring the 16-85. But you have to know that though 16-85 is optically sharper than 18-200, it does not make 18-200 a lousy lens that is not usable. Sometimes that little bit of difference in sharpness is not really that visible to human eyes unless u really blow up the pictures.

b) do you need that 85-200 of focal length? Sharpness can be achieved with the correct techniques and settings but for focal length, there are some situations where u cant really zoom with your legs.

Personally, i will bring the 18-200 with a 35 or 50 prime. For max sharpness, i will use the prime else use the 18-200 for max usability.

fussy is pretty subjective imo. but i think i am, frequently zooming at various zoom levels to look at the details. i do 4R prints and occasionally larger
as to your second question, i dont think i really need, but when i rented the 18-200mm, theres quite a number of the pictures taken at the tele end, although some of it is because i was lazy to move myself closer to subject. not moving also makes me feel less intrusive when i take street photog.

the 2mm wider is really attractive.. however the $550++ price different is much more attractive.. and if you really go pixel peep.. the 18-105 is sharper across the fl also.

18-105mm is sharper than 16-85mm?!
 

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how much difference is there between the vr1 and vr2? ive only used my kit lens, 55-200mm, and rented an 18-200mm. the 18-200mm has vr2 isnt it? but i cant really tell the difference.

and irvine, when u say better in terms of distortion, do u mean the distortion is more/less obvious, or more pleasing to the eye or sth?

if i'm not wrong, vr 2 is better as it allows u to shoot up to 4stops slower than the recommended shutter speed, while vr 1 only allows u to shoot up to 2 to 3 stops only. it's a feature that is nice to have, especially when shooting at the lens' longest end. i had watched a video online about the 18-200 vr2 and the reviewer said that the vr module isn't vr 2 (to watch the video, search digitalrev 18-200 in youtube).

wad i meant by better in terms of distortion, is that the 16-85 has lesser barrel distortion as compared to the 18-105. u can search up reviews of these 2 lenses for comparison at review sites such as photozone. for sample pictures of both lenses, the review sites haf plenty of such sample pictures for u to pixel peep. alternatively, u can also search flickr for sample images as well.
 

if i'm not wrong, vr 2 is better as it allows u to shoot up to 4stops slower than the recommended shutter speed, while vr 1 only allows u to shoot up to 2 to 3 stops only. it's a feature that is nice to have, especially when shooting at the lens' longest end. i had watched a video online about the 18-200 vr2 and the reviewer said that the vr module isn't vr 2 (to watch the video, search digitalrev 18-200 in youtube).

wad i meant by better in terms of distortion, is that the 16-85 has lesser barrel distortion as compared to the 18-105. u can search up reviews of these 2 lenses for comparison at review sites such as photozone. for sample pictures of both lenses, the review sites haf plenty of such sample pictures for u to pixel peep. alternatively, u can also search flickr for sample images as well.

I find the 16-85mm performs poorly at night.... but if have enough light then this lens is FANTASTIC
 

I find the 16-85mm performs poorly at night.... but if have enough light then this lens is FANTASTIC

Taken using the NIKON 16-85mm and D5100 - no tripod used. 16-85mm works very good if there is enough lighting.....

First the wide-angle

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Zoomed @ 85mm

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hmm... after dwelling over it for a very long time, ive pretty much decided on the 16-85mm for the fact that its wider and lighter. the weight was really troubling during the holiday trip which i brought my 18-200mm along, got tired quite easily. plus, most of my most taken were within 105mm, so i think 85mm should still satisfy most of my needs. hopefully, i can get it before my trip at the end of the year and then i'll post some pics up!:)
 

hmm... after dwelling over it for a very long time, ive pretty much decided on the 16-85mm for the fact that its wider and lighter. the weight was really troubling during the holiday trip which i brought my 18-200mm along, got tired quite easily. plus, most of my most taken were within 105mm, so i think 85mm should still satisfy most of my needs. hopefully, i can get it before my trip at the end of the year and then i'll post some pics up!:)

TS I thought you already got what you need since the post was way back April :p anyway you can't go wrong with 16-85 :)
 

Some recent test shots of the 16-85mm...

Shot at 16mm early morning over-cast/couldy day
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Zoomed - Same scene at 85mm - see the water tank and building brown and white mosiac tiles
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Zoomed - Same scene at 85mm - see the theatre
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Shot at 16mm
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16-85mm you cannot get this one. (150mm)
And the aperture 18-200mm is bigger than 16-85mm.
 

I am on ff so it's 28-300 for me......this is the only lens I bring every where I go now :)
 

18-200 very nice lens... Esp for travel. Will buy d800 and still i can use it having 15mp.
 

I was bringing 18-105 and 11-16mm everywhere I go. Kinda tired of bringing 2 lens everywhere. So I went straight for 16-85.

So far so good..

But now, I still bring 11-16 along with 16-85.. :hammer: haha.. but it greatly reduced the number of times I need to change lens.. Hehe..
 

The extra 2mm @ 16mm allows one to capture more in tight spaces... see

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The IQ of this lens is great as well ! :thumbsup: Don't have a 18-200mm so I cannot do a one to one compare though.

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18-200 is boring, heavy and costly. Go with the default kit lens 18-105 and one portrait lens.
 

how much it cost you when you bought that len at that time?

$650 pre-owned with 4 months warranty left. the lens conditions was very very mint with complete accessories ;)
 

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