Nikkor AF-S 24-85G


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Companies and their products must evolve. Looks like Nikon is bringing AFS/ED features of their products to more affordable levels. With regards to the aperture ring, doesn't affect me much since I am using the newer body and aperture is controlled by the command dial. However, noted that owners of earlier bodies are pissed by Nikon's move to apertureless ring lenses.

Have a good weekend
 

Originally posted by kongg
However, noted that owners of earlier bodies are pissed by Nikon's move to apertureless ring lenses.

I think that's a reasonable and understandable reaction.
 

Btw will be developing my slides shot with the 24-85 AFS G next week. Will inform u guys of the results.
 

I've handled this lens and seen picture samples from it... my honest impression is that there are some barrel distortions at the wide end and some pin cushions at the tele end, which can be seen through the view finder. There is also a little CA from the picture samples...

Good point about it is that it is cheap. :p
 

Ziploc.......thanx for letting me handle the 17-35AFS yesterday!!
Its an AWESOME lense!!!Droolllllllllllll.............................
 

Originally posted by Red Dawn
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wah....everybody going for the cheap / low cost AFS lens already?

but i tot Nikon users don't need AFS / USM silent and fast focusing, and that all these are just marketing ploys and gimmicks from Canon when they released a whole slew of cheap USM lenses??? watever happened to good old aperture rings on lenses and "non plasticky" lens bodies? ;p

hee hee....

That's why I am not buying this. :)

Give me an AF lens with the build quality of the old AI-S lenses with solid aperture rings, fluidly smooth focussing rings, etc and I'll be happy. ;) Using an aperture-ringless lens feels like something is missing (like using a car without a steering wheel but has a little knob in place of it). ;p

And yes, I stay by my belief that I don't need AF-S, for what I do, I don't need the extra speed or reduced noise. So they are still gimmicks. :p

While we are on that, I really wished Nikon would have a non-AFS version of the excellent 28-70/2.8 and 17-35/2.8. Their prices are really prohibitive.

Regards
CK
 

Originally posted by ckiang

While we are on that, I really wished Nikon would have a non-AFS version of the excellent 28-70/2.8 and 17-35/2.8. Their prices are really prohibitive.

Then not only will they be big but loud too!!!:D
 

Originally posted by Kit


Then not only will they be big but loud too!!!:D

Nah, all my lenses are non-AFS and they are not loud. :) I am fine with the 77mm (ok, maybe 62 will be better) filter threads. Just give me a 28-70 which is sharp at 2.8. :)

Regards
CK
 

Originally posted by ziploc
there are some barrel distortions at the wide end and some pin cushions at the tele end, which can be seen through the view finder.

That's good, really good!

:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
 

Cost of piezo-electric motors is not the main problem, from what I understand they can be manufactured relatively cheaply. Look at comparative lenses from Minolta and Pentax, the prices are equally as exciting. Not to mention that AIS glass costs more than AF-S glass.

The aperture ring debate is an interesting one.

Pros (of having one)
[1] Better handling if your camera only has one command dial
[2] Option of using either apeture ring or command dial if camera supports it, so the user can choose.

Cons (of having one)
[1] None, aside from cost savings, which is very dubious.

Pros (of not having one)
Same as cons of having one.

Cons (of not having one)
[1] Non-existent handling on older cameras. However, again this takes us back to the Nikon compatibility issue. How many of these newer G lenses with no aperture rings have got features that an older camera that cannot control aperture can actually use, as opposed to another lens? If your camera cannot accept a G lens, don't buy one. There's no reason to either. Buy a previous model with an aperture ring. You don't lose out in any way. About the only thing you might gain is VR with the new 70-200, but as I said, the older cameras cannot utilise the VR anyway.

Confusing a bit possibly because of the way I've phrased it, but losing the aperture ring while it sounds drastic is not actually a major problem. And for those die hards who insist that aperture ring control is better; it's not. It'll take you no time at all to get used to it if you actually use your camera, and before long you'll find it's better than an aperture ring (again, credit where credit is due to Canon or whoever discovered aperture control off the camera first).
 

Originally posted by Jed
Cost of piezo-electric motors is not the main problem, from what I understand they can be manufactured relatively cheaply. Look at comparative lenses from Minolta and Pentax, the prices are equally as exciting. Not to mention that AIS glass costs more than AF-S glass.

The aperture ring debate is an interesting one.

Pros (of having one)
[1] Better handling if your camera only has one command dial
[2] Option of using either apeture ring or command dial if camera supports it, so the user can choose.

Cons (of having one)
[1] None, aside from cost savings, which is very dubious.

Pros (of not having one)
Same as cons of having one.

Cons (of not having one)
[1] Non-existent handling on older cameras. However, again this takes us back to the Nikon compatibility issue. How many of these newer G lenses with no aperture rings have got features that an older camera that cannot control aperture can actually use, as opposed to another lens? If your camera cannot accept a G lens, don't buy one. There's no reason to either. Buy a previous model with an aperture ring. You don't lose out in any way. About the only thing you might gain is VR with the new 70-200, but as I said, the older cameras cannot utilise the VR anyway.

Confusing a bit possibly because of the way I've phrased it, but losing the aperture ring while it sounds drastic is not actually a major problem. And for those die hards who insist that aperture ring control is better; it's not. It'll take you no time at all to get used to it if you actually use your camera, and before long you'll find it's better than an aperture ring (again, credit where credit is due to Canon or whoever discovered aperture control off the camera first).

Still, though I have gotten myself to use the Sub Command Dial of my F100 to change apertures instead of the aperture ring, I still like it as an option. :) Actually the only reason why I have changed to using the sub command dial is so that the aperture value remains constant on a variable aperture zoom throughout its zoom range.

Regards
CK
 

The Nikkor AF-S 24-85G has an odd thread size of 67mm! :what: erghh.. can't share filters.
 

Originally posted by rochkoh
The Nikkor AF-S 24-85G has an odd thread size of 67mm! :what: erghh.. can't share filters.

coincidentally, so does the Canon 24-85 f3.5-4.5 USM.......which has been around for like....years :rbounce:

in fact, when it was first announced, there were some speculation on dpreview that they are one and the same lens ;p
 

OK.......got back my slides shot with the 24-85 AFS.

pics are sharp and contrasty. Will get more shots on the field....
 

Hi there...
Any new updates on this lens?
 

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