Newbie Guide to Filters

[cheesy]

2 pieces? 0.9 (3stop) GND soft, and 0.9 ND.

no 10 stops filter?

 

[daredevil123]

no 10 stops filter?

Not if I can only own 2. I will forgo the 10stop.

 

[cheesy]

i see. btw, how often do your stack filters?

 

[daredevil123]

i see. btw, how often do your stack filters?

If I use filters, quite often.

 

[Cowseye]

Just want to check with u guys, if 85mm filter with cokin P filter holder, will there be any vignette on nikon 12-24 and 10-24mm DX lenses? If there is, anyone knows @ what mm will the vignette gets clear off?

 

[daredevil123]

Just want to check with u guys, if 85mm filter with cokin P filter holder, will there be any vignette on nikon 12-24 and 10-24mm DX lenses? If there is, anyone knows @ what mm will the vignette gets clear off?

I have not tried those 2 lenses before. But I am quite sure you need to get the single slot wide angle filter holder and not the standard 3 slot holder.

 

[Cowseye]

I have not tried those 2 lenses before. But I am quite sure you need to get the single slot wide angle filter holder and not the standard 3 slot holder.

Thanks for the reply, doesn't that means one would need to spend more on filters because it can't stack?

 

[daredevil123]

Thanks for the reply, doesn't that means one would need to spend more on filters because it can't stack?

Errr... no. You use less filters (1 at a time). Meaning if you want to achieve certain things, you have to find workarounds.

 

[Cowseye]

Errr... no. You use less filters (1 at a time). Meaning if you want to achieve certain things, you have to find workarounds.

What I meant is, if u need a 4 stop GND, you would need to acquire an additional single piece 4 stops GND filter instead of being able to stack ur existing 3 & 1 stop GND right?

 

[alancwr]

Usually how many stops are required to produce the "silky" water effect??

I have a nd4 n nd8 total it's abt 5 stops n it seems like it can't produce the effect

Any suggestions??

 

[catchlights]

That depends how much is the ambient present at the scene, how choppy is the water. Average 30 seconds long exposure is needed.

 

[alancwr]

That depends how much is the ambient present at the scene, how choppy is the water. Average 30 seconds long exposure is needed.

Seems like i would need to stack another nd8?or is there a bigger nd from other brands of filter that can fit into cokin p holder?

 

[SkyStrike]

Seems like i would need to stack another nd8?or is there a bigger nd from other brands of filter that can fit into cokin p holder?

B+W nd110 or the Lee Big Stopper :devil: both are 10 stops. I believe Lee Big Stopper cannot fit into P holder. ND110 is a screwed on filter.

 

[alancwr]

B+W nd110 or the Lee Big Stopper :devil: both are 10 stops. I believe Lee Big Stopper cannot fit into P holder. ND110 is a screwed on filter.

I did a bit of read up n asking I figured that can do much except to change holder n stuff think I'll probably do that next time

For now I'll work ard the timings shoot just before sunset

 

[daredevil123]

I did a bit of read up n asking I figured that can do much except to change holder n stuff think I'll probably do that next time

For now I'll work ard the timings shoot just before sunset

Check with TK Foto. Ask them if the 4 stop or 10 stop Hitech filters come in 85mm size.

 

[daniellcs]

I bought myself a starter filter kit to play around (e.g. Cokin P holder, Tianya 85mm ND & GND filters)
Basically I stacked the ND & GND onto a 18-200mm lens.
After a few sunset shots, I noticed that there's quite bad vignetting and flares on my photos.
Removing the UV filter/circular polarizer helped (to reduce the distance from filters to lens), but vignetting & flares still occur.

What can I do to prevent such vignetting & flares from occurring? (e.g. do not stack filters? Filter issue? wrong slot-in positioning etc?)
I would post a photo here to explain what I mean, but I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put it...
Thanks for your help.

 

[shaoken]

I was just wondering something but I'm not sure whether is this the correct place to post..

Since those low-end "cheapo" MUV filters are no match with those like B+W or Hoya mid to high-end series (in terms of quality)..
Did it make any diff between those Multi-coated UV (like Green L or those for a few $$ on ebay) vs "cheap branded" Multi-coated UV (like Steinseizer)?

I have been using either Kenko or Steinseizer for my filters.

People often make comparison between Kenko/Steinseizer vs Hoya/B+W..
Anyone have experience between "cheapo" filters?


Sorry, but just curious.. :think:

 

[shaoken]

I bought myself a starter filter kit to play around (e.g. Cokin P holder, Tianya 85mm ND & GND filters)
Basically I stacked the ND & GND onto a 18-200mm lens.
After a few sunset shots, I noticed that there's quite bad vignetting and flares on my photos.
Removing the UV filter/circular polarizer helped (to reduce the distance from filters to lens), but vignetting & flares still occur.

What can I do to prevent such vignetting & flares from occurring? (e.g. do not stack filters? Filter issue? wrong slot-in positioning etc?)
I would post a photo here to explain what I mean, but I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put it...
Thanks for your help.

Are you using a step-down filter? I doubt it is the stacking as, you said you see vignetting (black corners I supposed).
I think that you try to use one only and see how it goes.

Oh, are you using a APS-C body of a FF body?
This also may be a factor, due to focal length issues.

 

[daredevil123]

I was just wondering something but I'm not sure whether is this the correct place to post..

Since those low-end "cheapo" MUV filters are no match with those like B+W or Hoya mid to high-end series (in terms of quality)..
Did it make any diff between those Multi-coated UV (like Green L or those for a few $$ on ebay) vs "cheap branded" Multi-coated UV (like Steinseizer)?

I have been using either Kenko or Steinseizer for my filters.

People often make comparison between Kenko/Steinseizer vs Hoya/B+W..
Anyone have experience between "cheapo" filters?


Sorry, but just curious.. :think:

I actually had a Steinseizer at one point. It seems to be coated lightly. At least one layer. Whether or not it is multicoated I don't know. But when mounted the Steizeizer seems to flare a lot easier than the most basic Hoya standard "both sides coated" filter.

I really recommend the Hoya HMC, it is cheap and good. A 77mm Hoya HMC UV will only cost you around $35-40.

 

[daniellcs]

I bought myself a starter filter kit to play around (e.g. Cokin P holder, Tianya 85mm ND & GND filters)
Basically I stacked the ND & GND onto a 18-200mm lens.
After a few sunset shots, I noticed that there's quite bad vignetting and flares on my photos.
Removing the UV filter/circular polarizer helped (to reduce the distance from filters to lens), but vignetting & flares still occur.

What can I do to prevent such vignetting & flares from occurring? (e.g. do not stack filters? Filter issue? wrong slot-in positioning etc?)
I would post a photo here to explain what I mean, but I'm not sure if this is the right thread to put it...
Thanks for your help.

Thanks Shaoken, but I doubt the step-down is a issue.
For the shots, a Tamron 18-200mm Aspherical LD XR DiII 3.5-6.3 (62mm) on a Nikon D40x was used.
It was taken at 18mm, and even with a 1.5x crop factor, why do vignetting still occur?
Does anyone else have any advice? Thanks.