New S5 IS

[FilterFunk]

ya... just read on dpreview.... compatible with all EX flashes...

Wow imagine a 580EX on a S5.. :bigeyes:

Need a grip to balance man.

its the same problem with Nikon's P5000 (Canon's G7 competitor), paired with a SB800.. :bigeyes:

maybe its time to roll out a smaller speedlite for pns/prosumer soon ?

 

[Dan]

No Raw for this two power shot? Waiting for it...

 

[kiwi2]

f-stop of G7 is f2.0 vs S5IS f2.7 at wide angle.

Are you sure? I thought it's f/2.8 (wide) to f/4.8?

I think many are still dreaming of the old G series. Solid f/2.0 - 3.0. With all the good features that S5IS and the "step-back" design/features of the G7, I really can't foresee many advantages of the G7 vs S5IS, unless one is into the megapixel race.

Just the main features alone, I think the S5IS beats the G7, and is even cheaper. The G series used to be the king of Canon compacts. Not anymore. Dun understand Canon's marketing now. Maybe they want to slowly phase out the G series?

 

[felixcat8888]

Looks like I need to switch cams liao. Still no RAW in the S5IS. What a waste. Even the G7 has lost the RAW....:cry:

 

[Wenjin]

major differences include,
8 vs 6 mp
ISO 1600 vs ISO 800
horseshoe for flash vs no horseshoe
better lcd resolution, 207k vs 115k
bigger lcd, 2.5" vs 2"
heavier, 550g vs 510g
support for SDHC

and lastly the gimmickly, face detection.

and DIGIC III chip~~~
i heard it did wonders for the 1DM3 in noise reduction. should have the same impact on noise reduction for the s5

 

[FilterFunk]

and DIGIC III chip~~~
i heard it did wonders for the 1DM3 in noise reduction. should have the same impact on noise reduction for the s5

it did wonders for 1mk3 but it did more harm than good on the Ixus 850 IS..
check out the comparison pics vs Ixus 800 IS..
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canonsd800is/

 

[Wenjin]

it did wonders for 1mk3 but it did more harm than good on the Ixus 850 IS..
check out the comparison pics vs Ixus 800 IS..
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canonsd800is/

REALLY???!!! DAMM was going to buy the 850 for a friend tommorrow!!!!

 

[felixcat8888]

I think it really pays to read here before deciding what to buy

 

[FilterFunk]

REALLY???!!! DAMM was going to buy the 850 for a friend tommorrow!!!!

i can only advice you.. take Dpreview's review with a pinch of salt.. this site emphasize alot on image quality. your friend or even you yourself might find the 850 IS (or even other pns models) to be of acceptable quality if you are not really a pixel peeper.

do test out at the shop before committing your purchase

 

[CanonEOS]

Looks like I need to switch cams liao. Still no RAW in the S5IS. What a waste. Even the G7 has lost the RAW....:cry:

I think Canon/Nikon is trying to draw the line between a pro-consumer and a DSLR. Few years back, the cheapest DSLR will easily cost in the region of 3-4K therefore is features such as f2.0, L lens or raw are found in a prosumer camera like the G series or Proshot 1 costing about 1k . However as times goes by, price has dropped drastically. A DSLR now, cost only slightly above a thousand, I do not think it make marketing sense to introduce a prosumer that cost more than an DSLR. This is my 2 cents worth, feel free to disagree.

 

[calebk]

...A DSLR now, cost only slightly above a thousand, I do not think it make marketing sense to introduce a prosumer that cost more than an DSLR. This is my 2 cents worth, feel free to disagree.

True, but it doesn't mean Canon can't choose to include RAW on a prosumer camera, which after all, is "more advanced" than your average compact.

 

[CanonEOS]

True, but it doesn't mean Canon can't choose to include RAW on a prosumer camera, which after all, is "more advanced" than your average compact.

I too wish for Raw and a f2.0 lens on a G series however if ya asking me to pay $1500 to implement it in prosumer camera, i rather spend the money buying a DSLR. $1500 can get you a new 400D body with a decent lens. though I alway hope that the S and the G series can be slightly cheaper ;p

 

[calebk]

I too wish for Raw and a f2.0 lens on a G series however if ya asking me to pay $1500 to implement it in prosumer camera, i rather spend the money buying a DSLR. $1500 can get you a new 400D body with a decent lens. though I alway hope that the S and the G series can be slightly cheaper ;p

How do you know it'll cost $1500? Hahaha.

 

[Singapore21]

Remember paying less than 1k for my G6 coupla' years ago.. it comes with a f2.0 lens... Raw...errr.. can't remember, hardly use it now...

 

[machiavellian]

oh? didnt know that.. :dunno:

i thought max up to 2gb only..

nope, i ,for one, use 4GB SD card in my S3.
works fine.

 

[machiavellian]

there's a raw hack for S3...haha...

the hack only works for DIGIC II processor, not DIGIC III.

 

[felixcat8888]

there's a raw hack for S3...haha...

the hack only works for DIGIC II processor, not DIGIC III.

RAW hack also works for S2

 

[David]

Good discussion here. Tend to agree with CanonEOS. Which explains why The Pro1 never continued with newer models after that.

I think the trend has been to pull more and more amateurs into the DSLR market, whether or not they need such a cam. Canon can make a lot more from there. A lot of newbies are getting in to it without really knowing what to expect. "What lens should I get? Is the kit lens good? How do I control this and that?" These are very common questions. My colleague was enticed by the 300D when it came out cos it was affordable even back then. But he didn't know many functions as a beginner. In the end, he realized he hated the weight and bulk, and sadly, the cam becomes a white elephant!

Once you're into DSLR, u start off with a kit lens (or those who are rich enuff, an L), then you yearn for more and more lenses, more L's, more f/2.8 zooms, more f/1.4 bokeh lenses which in the past were only used by pros but now even by amateurs. Canon seems to be saying, you want RAW? Go to a DSLR. Sorry, no RAW in compacts! And market research probably also shows that amateurs hardly shoot in RAW for compact cams.

Then there are the accessories don't forget. Flashes, battery packs, and the next thing you know, these guys are gonna ask, should I change my 400D to a 30D, or to a 5D/1D series? Just look at the questions asked here and you'll see. It's a chain reaction!

So I think the advent of the 350D/400D does have a role to play in killing many of the wonderful features of the past G series cams.

 

[CanonEOS]

How do you know it'll cost $1500? Hahaha.

I basing is upon the the price of G7. The retail price is already $969 (retail). To implent a f2.0 L lens to cover the same range and raw format, $1500 would be a reasonable price.

 

[USM]

Good discussion here. Tend to agree with CanonEOS. Which explains why The Pro1 never continued with newer models after that.

I think the trend has been to pull more and more amateurs into the DSLR market, whether or not they need such a cam. Canon can make a lot more from there. A lot of newbies are getting in to it without really knowing what to expect. "What lens should I get? Is the kit lens good? How do I control this and that?" These are very common questions. My colleague was enticed by the 300D when it came out cos it was affordable even back then. But he didn't know many functions as a beginner. In the end, he realized he hated the weight and bulk, and sadly, the cam becomes a white elephant!

Once you're into DSLR, u start off with a kit lens (or those who are rich enuff, an L), then you yearn for more and more lenses, more L's, more f/2.8 zooms, more f/1.4 bokeh lenses which in the past were only used by pros but now even by amateurs. Canon seems to be saying, you want RAW? Go to a DSLR. Sorry, no RAW in compacts! And market research probably also shows that amateurs hardly shoot in RAW for compact cams.

Then there are the accessories don't forget. Flashes, battery packs, and the next thing you know, these guys are gonna ask, should I change my 400D to a 30D, or to a 5D/1D series? Just look at the questions asked here and you'll see. It's a chain reaction!

So I think the advent of the 350D/400D does have a role to play in killing many of the wonderful features of the past G series cams.

Quite a good analysis. :thumbsup: