[ New Release 2010.03 ] - E-PL1


Then why shud P&S upgraders be bothered with center weighted & spot metering? ESP metering shud be enuf for them. To me, AEL & other metering modes come hand in hand, can't do one w/o the other. Its actually quite an important feature :heart:

Cannot take away all lah! Hahahaha.... AEL is impt for me, that's why I'm happy with my E-P1.
 

Most people who have used the Pana 20mm f1.7 agree it is better than the Oly 17/f2.8. Oly does not have a 7-14 in mFT but most also agree that this is comparable to any of the top lenses available. AFAIK, no mFT Oly lens seems to have enjoyed such consensus.

I have gotten very good A2 size prints from shots taken from my 14-45 and 45-200 pana lenses on a GF1. I have no experience with mFT Oly lenses so I cannot comment. All I can say is that for the price, the Panas are outstanding. And the EPL1 might also be a good 2nd body for these as well as my other legacy MF lenses.

With regard to the 20mm,I've never touched it before,but more importantly is the images,whether is it to your liking or not,whether RAW or OOC JPEGs,after all,photography is not the comparison of gears but painting with light,so if a certain camera works for you,good for you,if not,keep on searching for that "special one", as the saying goes "one man's poison may be another's meat"

every product has its good and bad points. its up to us to decide which one to get. i was excited about the E-P1, was impressed about the GH1 video capabilities, I liked the E-P2 and GF1 seems to have everything you need in a mFT (aside from IBIS)...

yet i have not bought one mFT til now as I dont have the urgent need for them especially considering the price. our choice doesnt have to be the top-spec, pound for pound king of cameras... its what we actually need and afford

now that E-PL1 is very much affordable, I think it will be my first mFT. though I'm still waiting for the E-5 and E-5x0/6X0 announcement, might not have enough budget for both hehehe. 43rumors is hinting at a March release

Good for you that finally a camera has surface that matches your criteria, I honestly hope that this camera will be a good performer and at the same time sincerely hope that controversy that GF1 is better or E-PX is better,all cameras have their pros and cons,go with what fits you best :)

Agree with you on that. Question is how they are going to label the 2 kit lenses? 14-42(M) and 14-42(P)? ;) My hunch is when the price of the E-P2 drops and E-P1's production run has ended, only 14-42(P) will be included.

Good question,my answer "I have no idea" :bsmilie:
But on a serious note,probably just no difference I guess,14-42 (P) has a plastic mount so that they can have a budget mFT camera,but probably on sale would be the metal one,either way,like the 40-150,probably they will just phase out the metal mount and sell the plastic one and at the same time decrease the price? No idea what Olympus is gonna do but they'll solve the problem and or take risks I guess,afterall... Which business doesn't involve risks right?
 

Good question,my answer "I have no idea" :bsmilie:
But on a serious note,probably just no difference I guess,14-42 (P) has a plastic mount so that they can have a budget mFT camera,but probably on sale would be the metal one,either way,like the 40-150,probably they will just phase out the metal mount and sell the plastic one and at the same time decrease the price? No idea what Olympus is gonna do but they'll solve the problem and or take risks I guess,afterall... Which business doesn't involve risks right?

The important thing is judging by the new mFT offerings by Oly and Pana in the past year plus their lens maps, the mFT platform has a bright future indeed. :thumbsup:
 

The important thing is judging by the new mFT offerings by Oly and Pana in the past year plus their lens maps, the mFT platform has a bright future indeed. :thumbsup:

No doubts about that ;p
 

Well, I certainly did not remember me saying one is better than the other in term of picture quality. However, IF I were to buy one from the 2nd hand market, I'd certainly choose the metal mount if priced the same.

Presently we don't know which class the E-P1/2 kit lens come from. We don't even know IF there's a similar classification system for mFT lenses. All things points to both 14-42mm being same lens save for the mounts.

Well, I also did not say it has got anything to do with picture quality. It is just the difference in material in which the mount is made. Perhaps u are not aware, but in general, SG lens have plastic mounts, HG all metal mounts. U are assuming that I am making a comparison wrt image quality when I use SG and HG lenses as an example. Well, I am not.
 

Aiyah...dun tok so much liao lar.

Just choose what colour is nicest lar.


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For me, I think either black, silver or white. Most important is I want the lens to match the body colour well. Since most of the 4/3 and some of the m4/3 lenses are black, black would be best for matching. Of course silver would contrast nicely. There are some silver m4/3 lens which would go well with the silver colour. As for white, if I go for it, either can get silver lens or black lens. Sigh....need a stylist now to advise. LOL!
 

For me, I think either black, silver or white. Most important is I want the lens to match the body colour well. Since most of the 4/3 and some of the m4/3 lenses are black, black would be best for matching. Of course silver would contrast nicely. There are some silver m4/3 lens which would go well with the silver colour. As for white, if I go for it, either can get silver lens or black lens. Sigh....need a stylist now to advise. LOL!

To me, it's either RED or black... :D
 

ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 9–18mm F4.0–5.6 Estimated Street Price: $699.99

Much cheaper than the Lumix 7-14mm. :bsmilie:
 

That's USD though. If the currency conversion holds, it'll be almost S$600 cheaper than the 7-14 though.
 

ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 9–18mm F4.0–5.6 Estimated Street Price: $699.99

Much cheaper than the Lumix 7-14mm. :bsmilie:

The 7-14mm has a constant f/4.0, though, which is more difficult and expensive, along with the lower focal length.
 

The 7-14mm has a constant f/4.0, though, which is more difficult and expensive, along with the lower focal length.

And also the extra 2mm makes a helluva lot of difference.

The Olympus 4/3 7-14 mm is similar in price, so nothing unexpected about the Panasonic 7-14mm.
 

The 7-14mm has a constant f/4.0, though, which is more difficult and expensive, along with the lower focal length.

The Oly 9-18mm will retail for about $1k while the 7-14mm is $1.5k, a difference of $500. The difference between an equiv 14mm and 18mm is very significant for those who need the extra width in a confined space. And a constant of f4 is another plus as it will not change the shutter speed, important for handheld shots, BIS/OIS notwithstanding. These advantages would be worth the $500 difference IMO.

I believe these 2 lenses are targeted at slightly different market segments and uses and therefore real choices for mFT owners.
 

For me, I think either black, silver or white. Most important is I want the lens to match the body colour well. Since most of the 4/3 and some of the m4/3 lenses are black, black would be best for matching. Of course silver would contrast nicely. There are some silver m4/3 lens which would go well with the silver colour. As for white, if I go for it, either can get silver lens or black lens. Sigh....need a stylist now to advise. LOL!

Well, if it comes by march, and pairs with a pancake lens and a nice price. I will consider getting it. Else i'll still put my bids on getting a Pen2 or Pen1 for my birthday.:bsmilie:
 

The latest E-PL1 looks very impressive, a faster AF and built-in flash in a smaller body.

Faster AF? Can I know where you sourced that information? So far I haven't seen any mention of this. (Not meant to sound cynical, just really want to confirm!) I hope you're right cos that would be enough for me to buy it right now!
 

Faster AF? Can I know where you sourced that information? So far I haven't seen any mention of this. (Not meant to sound cynical, just really want to confirm!) I hope you're right cos that would be enough for me to buy it right now!

Olympus aren't admitting to faster auto focus but several people who have got the chance to preview the body have mentioned that it's faster than either E-P1 or E-P2 but not as fast as Panasonic's bodies.
 

To be honest, the two m4/3 cameras are pretty reflective of individiual company strengths: Panasonic for electronics, and Olympus for signal processing algorithms. It seems that Olympus isn't too good on the electronic side though, so don't expect too much from the E-PL1 which cost less than the E-P1/2.
 

Faster AF? Can I know where you sourced that information? So far I haven't seen any mention of this. (Not meant to sound cynical, just really want to confirm!) I hope you're right cos that would be enough for me to buy it right now!

Whoops, i should have read pg.8 of this thread :embrass:

Anyway, it still runs through the whole focus range each time you use A/F so basically the same as the EP-1 and 2, only faster. Not like the GF-1. Still, faster is faster!
 

I don't get the point of this thread,there is already an E-PL1 thread going on
 

Would this new camera come with a Pancake kit lens?:embrass:
 

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