New Final Cut Pro X

[DXNMedia]

I'd say give it a few more versions, but for those who can't wait, especially the pro users, Apple may have well lost some users to Premiere or Avid....
For me, I'm staying put with FCS3 for as long as I can, adopting the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude.....But ready to jump ship back to Avid anytime...and giving Premiere another look meanwhile. ;D

 

[tengo]

I use all big 3 regularly... Avid, FCP and Premiere Pro, and recently installed FCP X....

And all I can say is that each has its own pros and cons.... I wish Avid has something of Premiere Pro, Premiere Pro has something of FCP and FCP has something of Avid...

It used to be the case years ago where Final Cut Studio really wins out as a package because we have to spend tens of thousands for an Avid system and Premiere Pro wasn't pro enough.

But now that Premiere Pro has caught up, Avid has lowered their prices dramatically and FCP X do have some cool new stuffs... the line is really blur now.

Just use what you like. At the end of the day, nobody needs to know what you edited on.

 

[DXNMedia]

for those who use NLE systems as a software driven system alone, and with a standard shoot & edit workflow, any of the NLE will work.
But for some facilities, integration with I/O hardware, server systems, and managing terabytes of existing footage, changing a NLE isn't just a buy & install affair.

 

[Confaderal]

Bottomline...fcpx isn't ready yet. wait for updates. hopefully it'll help

 

[iunspoken]

Been a long time FCP/APP/Avid user, frankly quite insulted by Apple's idea at calling this a professional product. The basic lacking of backward support is a biggie for ALL video businesses who have invested millions into the FCP system and architecture, especially Final Cut Server (don't get me started on that one). Multicam's no use. And the timeline thing, come on. All us video editors put certain things on certain timelines for a particular purposes and Apple comes and "lends a helping hand".
The filling structure is nuts. UI's fine really. It's the whole underlying structure of the program that just crashes it. iMovie Pro this is.

 

[DXNMedia]

I was disappointed too to be frank, but that's the way it has been thru the years....I started editing on A-B roll linear editing, Steenbeck 16mm film editing, Avid, early Premiere, & FCP....before that, the exact same problems happened to the audio post industry....Sonic Solutions was the 'Avid' of audio editing, then came SoundScape, Protools, Logic, Neuendo, etc....in the end, who survived and became industry standard again?

In terms of upgrading your skill sets, just be prepared to move on and learn new apps... and in terms of business for some, look into the best solution that works and stick with it until you recoup your investments.... Like I mentioned, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it..." who says you die die need the latest versions to work? DOn't get too caught up with upgrades and the hypes the company's marketing has created.

In the last post house I worked in, we used very old Avid systems to churn out international standards TV programs....nobody complained, quality wasn't compromised, and some programs still got nominated for awards.

Bottom line, don't let technology be a hinderance to your creativity...but of course technical quality also shouldn't be compromised.

 

[XsenseX]

Quality isn't a huge factor locally from my experience so its totally fine to stick to old platforms that works.

I still see many older companies using early AVID and FCP 3 for local broadcast commercials ...

Over in the states, its more prevalent.

 

[Bamboopictures]

As a die hard FCP user since version 1.25 (PAL), I was totally shocked by the direction Apple has chosen to take with FCPX. I felt like a fish in an abandoned tank. It's still comfortable swimming around but the water will completely evaporate one day. In the meantime, where can I jump to? Will the next tank be a treacherous place? If I stay put, will someone come along and top up the water? In the mean time it will difficult to expand the number of workstations because Apple has taken FCS3 off the market!

 

[KevinWhite]

The UI seems more like Sony Vegas or iMovie, and the most important thing is that the price has decreased rapidly.

Would Apple change its business model to be more compatible with common users? It remains to be seen in the future...

 

[sibeiblur]

I reckon if you are on FCS 3, just keep cutting on it and make money with it, just like before.
As it is, FCPX is not really ready for prime time even though it has some really neat features.
I say wait for the next upgrade before jumping ship. By the next upgrade, you will probably have a clearer picture on where Apple is taking it to.
I think it is also interesting to see AJA and Blackmagic take on FCPX. For now, FCPX really has no option for critical external viewing on broadcast monitor.

Actually I'm more interested to see the next release of Macpro. There are talks that Apple might just kill the Macpro line.

Here's an interesting take on FCPX. A Different perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwF9J1_aYzI&feature=player_embedded

 

[machiavellian]

FCP 7 is the way to go man!

 

[purplemonkey369]

Hi, guys.

What if it's for people who are totally new to FCP?

Like someone who has been using Premiere or Vegas, but is also not a 'power' user' and rarely does, let's say, broadcast work?

Will FCP X be fine?

 

[Shuttercounts]

A total noob here. Any comments and wonder if it takes format from Canon 7D? Does it works like imovie and do not need any conversion of the format to make it editable?

 

[tengo]

I finally edited a project on FCP X. And I regularly edit on all big 3 - Avid, FCP and Premiere Pro, but most experience was with FCP.

Just to answer somebody's claim that Avid is more stable... Well, Avid crashes more and more since they came up with software only versions (quote Avid's master trainer), i think 5.0 onwards. I get crashes all the time... just like FCP. If you go see Avid's known issues list, it's certainly a long list. FCP X solves this big crashing problem with a great feature - it remembers and save every step you make. So anytime that FCP X crashes, you just restart FCP X and you are on your last step. FCP X doesn't even have a "Save" button!

The more I use FCP X, the more I like it. There are great features such as the magnetic timeline (which you can turn off too). I can now insert or rearrange footage without worrying about other tracks not in sync. Another great feature is the instant preview. Just select a clip and mouse over the effect you want and you get an instant preview. We don't have to keep applying the effect and then undo it to try out like before. Some guy has posted a great video tutorial to show how you can work with events library just like bins in FCP7.

Granted there are some issues but there are many new things to like. For those who require certain features like XML, external monitoring, multi-cam editing and plugins integration, just wait for the coming updates. Apple has already committed and promised some of these are coming. Vendors are also updating their plugins.

But certainly FCP X is a revolutionary product and not an evolutionary one. It's gonna change the way people edit and it's either learning how to deal with it or be left behind.

My 5 cents.

 

[tengo]

A total noob here. Any comments and wonder if it takes format from Canon 7D? Does it works like imovie and do not need any conversion of the format to make it editable?

Yes. It takes AVCHD and you can edit natively. No conversion. I tested with FS100 footage. Works great.

 

[purplemonkey369]

So, who is FCP X for, and who should stay away from getting it?

I am really considering getting it.

:cry:

 

[David Kwok]

I'm not a all time video editor. Just a casual user on mac using it for stitching and simple processing. FCPX really bridge up the gap between consumer grade editors and professional editors. I can't say much for those professional users for they are well trained in this area, but given the pricing and gentle learning curve, I say it is an improvement in some ways. At least new comers will have an easier time learning the rope with respect to the software ?

 

[Shuttercounts]

Yes. It takes AVCHD and you can edit natively. No conversion. I tested with FS100 footage. Works great.

Cannot understand. Sorry, very noob. I just want to know if I can just transfer my recording from a Canon 7D to Mac and use the FCPX to edit and create special effects? Also keen to ask if we can create special opening/ ending effects..

 

[XsenseX]

AVCHD edits well ...

But native H.264 editing which is all the canon dslr formats will have slight issues as the program will constantly try to render so you must do the 'proxy media' selection to make editing smooth but the rendering takes time and its pretty time consuming if you ask me ... The good thing is that its run on background so it doesn't affect while you edit. Maybe only during effects or text editing.

I'm on i7 (with hyper threading) and 12 gb ram so it might be even slower for ppl with older systems.

Take note.

 

[tkp77]

My biggest problem with FCPX is the auto save feature. It lost my 2 hours worth of editing. I hate it!!!
Even this forum auto save feature is even better.

The undo / step backward function don't always work, and crashes occasionally. I always believe that Mac do not crash?? Maybe I am wrong.

I am first time user of FCP, used to iMovie, and I can say that the transition to FCPX is quick. With FCPX, I can do a lot more editing compare to iMovie. I love the features of FCPX, but hope that it will be more stable. I think its good for beginner, and people who are used to iMovie.