Neutral Density filters with RF fast lens

[dtohs]

May i ask if anyone here are using or have used the above combi, for fast lens like f1.4 & below? i wanna explore shooting wide open on bright day light. Need help for the following;
1. Any advise to which density.
2. is B+W the best option?
3. Any unforeseen issue?

Thanks for yr help.

 

[Xtol19]

1. At least two stops, else why bother.
2. One of the best. The other is Heliopan.
3. Remember to compensate for filter factor!

 

[dtohs]

1. At least two stops, else why bother.
2. One of the best. The other is Heliopan.
3. Remember to compensate for filter factor!

Thanks for the reply, i need a E60, but may have to wait for stock. There are B+W ND filters up to 10 stops, which i think may work for me, just wanted to check if anyone has any bad experience using this.

 

[Yatlapball]

yup... have a E39 b+w 6-stop... though I don't quite use it in the way that you intend to. more for dragging shutter speeds... i like motion blur in my clouds/water

 

[Yatlapball]

3. Remember to compensate for filter factor!

no problem if there's a built-in meter ;p

 

[eamesboy]

Shooting at 1/8000 with your lowest ISO. The max you will need is ND8 filter at f1.4 bro?
Not too sure will it cause any image degradation or not. I am sure it will if u shoot on film.



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[dtohs]

yup... have a E39 b+w 6-stop... though I don't quite use it in the way that you intend to. more for dragging shutter speeds... i like motion blur in my clouds/water

Shooting at 1/8000 with your lowest ISO. The max you will need is ND8 filter at f1.4 bro?
Not too sure will it cause any image degradation or not. I am sure it will if u shoot on film.



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Thanks for all yr advices. lately i have been shooting wide open at lowest iso, -3 exposure and 1/4000.. i just think everything is too still at that speed, just wanted to explore other area at wide open.. really thanks all for yr advices.. cheers!

 

[Xtol19]

Thanks for all yr advices. lately i have been shooting wide open at lowest iso, -3 exposure and 1/4000.. i just think everything is too still at that speed, just wanted to explore other area at wide open.. really thanks all for yr advices.. cheers!

A polariser will give you 1.5 stops.

A deep red filter will give you 2-3 stops.

Add these and you've got 4 stops.

Also, learn to use slow film, iso 25. Then you'll get grainless enlargements too.

 

[dtohs]

A polariser will give you 1.5 stops.

A deep red filter will give you 2-3 stops.

Add these and you've got 4 stops.

Also, learn to use slow film, iso 25. Then you'll get grainless enlargements too.

Yes, i remember that.. i used to do that when i did film long ago.. now totally digital, now just wanted to try something else, thanks Xtol19 for yr advice too.

 

[Cactus jACK]

not sure of the implications of the UV/IR and the ND, or the ND without the UV/IR on the M8?

the M8.1 also has the advantage over the film Ms with the fastest shutter speed at 1/8000... 8x faster (3stops) than the M7, so you can afford to open up more.

also a note that the there are MRCs only for ND2 (1stop) and ND4 (2stops)... if that is a consideration in terms of additional coating?

 

[Yatlapball]

going by sunny f/16... he would have maxed out at 1/8000s for f/1.4 at the lowest ISO setting (160) on the M8.1

 

[dtohs]

not sure of the implications of the UV/IR and the ND, or the ND without the UV/IR on the M8?

the M8.1 also has the advantage over the film Ms with the fastest shutter speed at 1/8000... 8x faster (3stops) than the M7, so you can afford to open up more.

also a note that the there are MRCs only for ND2 (1stop) and ND4 (2stops)... if that is a consideration in terms of additional coating?

going by sunny f/16... he would have maxed out at 1/8000s for f/1.4 at the lowest ISO setting (160) on the M8.1

thanks gents for yr advices! got myself a ND110. Gotta wait for stock arrival thou.
Cheers and thanks again!

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[blacvios]

Would like to find out more from fellow Rf shooters which brand or type of ND you have used to achieve wide open shots in the day. Reviews on particular make or model would even be better. Thanks in advance.

 

[mamypoko]

Using a ND8 for my Canon 0.95, from Hoya. 3 stop reduction in light.

 

[raytoei]

+1 on Xtol19's comments.

Assuming you'll need f16 and 1/iso film speed on a bright outdoor Sunny day,

you need to compensate for 7 stops.

1.4 -> 2 1
2 -> 2.8 2
2.8 -> 4 3
4 -> 5.6 4
5.6 -> 8 5
8 -> 11 6
11 -> 16 7

So assuming you use ISO 100 film, and a camera capable of going 1/1000 speed, then it is

125 -> 250 1
250 -> 500 2
500 -> 1000 3

you have 3 stops covered but you'd need to cover the remaining 7 - 3 stops, 4 stops.

You could use a ND8 filter which covers for 3 stops.

for the last stop, perhaps use a light Yellow filter which needs a stop.

OR

using the example as suggested by the other members, use a iso 25 film:

30 -> 60 1
60 -> 125 2
125 -> 250 3
250 -> 500 4
500 -> 1000 5

+ a more common ND4 filter, which will cover the last 2 stops.

 

[blacvios]

Using a ND8 for my Canon 0.95, from Hoya. 3 stop reduction in light.

+1 on Xtol19's comments.

Assuming you'll need f16 and 1/iso film speed on a bright outdoor Sunny day,

you need to compensate for 7 stops.

1.4 -> 2 1
2 -> 2.8 2
2.8 -> 4 3
4 -> 5.6 4
5.6 -> 8 5
8 -> 11 6
11 -> 16 7

So assuming you use ISO 100 film, and a camera capable of going 1/1000 speed, then it is

125 -> 250 1
250 -> 500 2
500 -> 1000 3

you have 3 stops covered but you'd need to cover the remaining 7 - 3 stops, 4 stops.

You could use a ND8 filter which covers for 3 stops.

for the last stop, perhaps use a light Yellow filter which needs a stop.

OR

using the example as suggested by the other members, use a iso 25 film:

30 -> 60 1
60 -> 125 2
125 -> 250 3
250 -> 500 4
500 -> 1000 5

+ a more common ND4 filter, which will cover the last 2 stops.

Many thanks and to the mod directing me to the old thread, will endeavor to use the search function first.

 

[DoveVadar]

drop all the values.. just remm...

-3 stops for 100iso
-6 stops for 400iso

im using for my noctilux. Take note ALL nd filters regardless of brand will have a slight warm cast to your images. I personally prefer b+w

cheers!