need help - get a good prime lens or kit lens?

[SkyStrike]

you are right. i have brought her to the canon show room. so far she feel the 7d is the 'best'. she wants to try the D7000, but theres no nikon show room

Hope with attachments of heavier lens (70-200 24-70) she won't say that P&S is the best...

 

[Tucksoon]

you are right. i have brought her to the canon show room. so far she feel the 7d is the 'best'. she wants to try the D7000, but theres no nikon show room

Go to the recommended shops and let her try Nikon and the rest. I just bought my first DSLR and I guess it's good to start learning using the kit lens. Is this the first DSLR for your friend?

 

[bonrya]

28mm f2.8 $330.
still got money to buy the 50mm f1.8 $125

:bsmilie:

 

[ManWearPants]

Get an external flash with the kit lens. It is better to use bounce lights indoor. IMO, the flash is more impt than the wide aperture here.

 

[crystal1993]

hi again



my friend asked me on the Qn on getting a good prime lens or kit lens.

she had a very tight budget ($500) on lens after getting the body, she needs to take photos of people indoor (there may be a distance of 3m or more restriction).

Shes planning to get the 7D with kit or not

The comparison here is that the kit lens can zoom but the f-pt is high, while getting the E.g 50mm 1.4, the sharpness is there but the person in the phots seems to far away



Plz advice

regards

Go get a flash and use it with your kit lens. That's enough for indoor shoots.

 

[thechallenger]

+1 for the above 2 comments.
If you dont mind 2nd hand, get the 430EX and Tamron 17-50 f2.8. This combo will provide both good image quality and versatile for indoor shooting and only slightly exceed your 700 budget
The Tamron has problem focusing under low light, but with flash attached there will be no problem focusing.

 

[kelchew]

Taking people photo indoor do we need to have a 7fps cam?

 

[crystal1993]

Taking people photo indoor do we need to have a 7fps cam?

Lol what for? Normally people want a high fps cam for sports or other fast pace shots.

 

[bonrya]

Lol what for? Normally people want a high fps cam for sports or other fast pace shots.

I want to get to hear the sound of the shutter slapping when I spam shutter count.. feels good man. :bsmilie:

 

[rvf79]

get Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 la... ard 560...
also u need to get a ext flash

I have 18-135mm kit lens and 50mm F1.8.
a bit regarding getting 18-135... should had got 24-75mm F2.8
by the way, i don think you need to get 7D... it's over kill...

pple also had use xxxD to shot sports event too.

 

[photoart]

I find that most beginners are more comfortable with zooms than primes. They might feel very limited/restricted by prime lens. I observed that many beginners tend to stand in one location and zoom in/out. So it's advisable that your friend gets a zoom lens until comfortable with primes.

I am now so used to primes that even when I have a zoom attached to my camera, i only use the extreme ends of the length

 

[ErikaT]

get Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 la... ard 560...
also u need to get a ext flash

I have 18-135mm kit lens and 50mm F1.8.
a bit regarding getting 18-135... should had got 24-75mm F2.8
by the way, i don think you need to get 7D... it's over kill...

pple also had use xxxD to shot sports event too.

why u regard getting the 18-135??

 

[xperia]

How about getting a 1100d and a 24-70 2.8, with a 320ex. Probably come to the same as 7d with $500 lens.

24-70 is a good workhorse lens and will stay with her for many years to come. Plus the 2.8 will be useful if she plans to do low light shooting in future.

 

[rvf79]

why u regard getting the 18-135??

is regret... sry...

i regret because it is either here or there... when u at the full length, it's at F5.6

 

[rvf79]

How about getting a 1100d and a 24-70 2.8, with a 320ex. Probably come to the same as 7d with $500 lens.

24-70 is a good workhorse lens and will stay with her for many years to come. Plus the 2.8 will be useful if she plans to do low light shooting in future.

i second dat.
but 24-70 is damn ex lo....
a cheap version will be 28-75

 

[rhema83]

i second dat.
but 24-70 is damn ex lo....
a cheap version will be 28-75

Sorry I have to disagree. The 1100D is not a well-built camera and will not last a few years of heavy use. For a small increase in price, the 600D is much better. It is well within the $3k budget.

On the other hand, I agree with most that the 7D is not necessary, especially since it leaves you only a few hundred dollars for the lenses. Cheap (but not too cheap) body + good lenses is always better than the other way round. By the way, Nikon D7000 is not cheap either and it also somewhat strains the budget.

First, I suggest your friend to choose between 600D and 60D. From what I gathered, she doesn't mind heavier / bigger body and wants more features, so maybe 60D. Now, what she can get with the budget depends largely on whether she is willing to get second hand. She can save at least 20%-30% by going that route, which is reasonable for someone new to DSLRs. That way, she can get a good camera body and two lenses, with enough leftover for the dry cabinet, camera bag, cleaning accessories and tripod.

Let's say she goes for a used 60D. For street zoom lens, a mid-range option is the Canon 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM. For a portrait prime lens, either 50mm f/1.4 USM or 85mm f/1.8 USM should do fine. You can also consider the 50mm f/1.8 II, which is a good performer for its price.

 

[michaelwks]

Try this Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM.

 

[jxong]

Hmm for her to try prime for indoor shot/candid I feel 50 or 85 is a little too tight on a cropped body isnt it ? I currently using a canon 7d body with tamron 17-50 and canon 28mm f1.8 for indoor portraits even in small 2 rooms flats it fit nicely to capture my little nephews.

Just sharing

 

[jxong]

Oh yeah due to the tight budget I too feel she should go for another body but spend in a good lens. But if she seriously like 7d so much I would say get what your heart leans too if not after u get something that u did not really like it u will not be happy using it too.

 

[photoart]

I too feel that she should get either the 600d or 60d. And if that leaves too little for a canon 24-70, she can consider 3rd party lenses. Tamron/tokina/sigma have been coming up with very good lenses in recent years, so it's worth considering them