dun get the iriver. it is too high quality and professional that not many people will appreciate it. like giving a hasselblad to someone who just started photography.:bsmilie:
hee hee, abit exagerrated. i have a H300 iriver, it is quite an old model(plays pictures and movies only after firmware upgrade). basically, like it because can drag drop, can speed up slow down, can adjust the sound settings(not the normal treble and bass), excellent sound reproduction(comparable to minolta in the photographic world for their colour reproduction), and expensive. but i'm not too sure about iriver models now though.
so......... get an ipod. to him, if you dun tell him that there are other better players around, he wun feel the difference.