Models and photographers posting in 'Service Offered/Wanted' section

[Virgo]

Dear Moderators,

We have seen numerous cases of models and photographers (mostly models though) being asked by others to provide their experience, work displayed, clients, etc. But because they may be just newbies who just came into the industry and demanded paid jobs instead of paying others to do the initial portfolio, they often get shot down by some of the more experience 'old birds' here.

I think we cannot blame either party. Everyone has the right to demand for paid jobs, provided he/she can get their clients. We can't also point our fingers at the 'old birds' here too, as most of us here think that the newbies need to have decent portfolios before they start asking for paid jobs.

I have a suggestion which I think may be able to help resolve this issue. Before these models/photographers start posting their first thread, I'm think it's a good idea to get them to indicate the number of years/months of modelling/photography experience, and the clients they have worked with. Moderators may want to scan through their online portfolio to see if they fit the bill. I'm sure with your experience, you can tell if those photos posted online are of certain quality.

If the moderators think that their portfolio and experience don't match, the posts can either be taken down, or you can simply tell them to get a better portfolio by paying first, or go shoot some quality ones before coming back again.

In this case, we can be sure those who came asking for paid jobs have reached a certain calibre, and not some t,d,h who wanted quick money.

Rest, please feel free to give any suggestions to improve the situation. Thank you.

 

[nightwolf75]

actually, our CS Admins have been tossing ard the idea for a while. which was why the Services directory was set up initially for models to post such info. however, not many people are using it.

i believe our Admins are looking into it.. but not so much as weeding out those models/photogs looking for a quick buck. think the long term plan is to make more info available.

 

[Del_CtrlnoAlt]

idea... but who should be the judge? i got enuff of fiends...

*ps... i still dun mind going thru it if i'm free.

 

[Deadpoet]

I think our current system of caveat emptor works. When it works, why fix it.

We may see a bit of "temper" flashing occasionally, and I am referring one model, but that is life. They come in all different shape and sizes.

If a model, however inexperienced, can get someone to pay for her services, so be it, good for her.

 

[catchlights]

actually, our CS Admins have been tossing ard the idea for a while. which was why the Services directory was set up initially for models to post such info. however, not many people are using it.

i believe our Admins are looking into it.. but not so much as weeding out those models/photogs looking for a quick buck. think the long term plan is to make more info available.

since you mention the Service directory, is there anyway to edit or update my data?

 

[catchlights]

back to the original question, I agree with DP, just leave it "caveat emptor".

It will be good just let any CSers make some posts to remind the thread starter for offering services in services offered forum to include samples of works or shows portfolio.

scanning through their online portfolio before allow they make a post, will give moderators a lots of works, on the other hands, others csers might think those allow to post in the forum, their works are endorsed by our moderators. later on we will see somebody start a thread to KPKB for kana cheated in the forum.

 

[Edmund]

since you mention the Service directory, is there anyway to edit or update my data?

I know this has been the most-asked-for function since we soft launched the directory.... but I just haven't been able to spare time to work on it and so until its ready, anyone who wants to update their data can just send me a pm and I will do it manually.

Apologies for any inconvenience... :sweat:

 

[Edmund]

Dear Moderators,

We have seen numerous cases of models and photographers (mostly models though) being asked by others to provide their experience, work displayed, clients, etc. But because they may be just newbies who just came into the industry and demanded paid jobs instead of paying others to do the initial portfolio, they often get shot down by some of the more experience 'old birds' here.

I think we cannot blame either party. Everyone has the right to demand for paid jobs, provided he/she can get their clients. We can't also point our fingers at the 'old birds' here too, as most of us here think that the newbies need to have decent portfolios before they start asking for paid jobs.

I have a suggestion which I think may be able to help resolve this issue. Before these models/photographers start posting their first thread, I'm think it's a good idea to get them to indicate the number of years/months of modelling/photography experience, and the clients they have worked with. Moderators may want to scan through their online portfolio to see if they fit the bill. I'm sure with your experience, you can tell if those photos posted online are of certain quality.

If the moderators think that their portfolio and experience don't match, the posts can either be taken down, or you can simply tell them to get a better portfolio by paying first, or go shoot some quality ones before coming back again.

In this case, we can be sure those who came asking for paid jobs have reached a certain calibre, and not some t,d,h who wanted quick money.

Rest, please feel free to give any suggestions to improve the situation. Thank you.

actually, our CS Admins have been tossing ard the idea for a while. which was why the Services directory was set up initially for models to post such info. however, not many people are using it.

i believe our Admins are looking into it.. but not so much as weeding out those models/photogs looking for a quick buck. think the long term plan is to make more info available.

Actually... the eventual expanded Directory is supposed to encapsulate what you guys talked about but... errmm... we'll get there, just that I am unable to give a timeline for now. Appreciate it if everyone could bear with us at its current state. :sweatsm:

As for getting our Mods to scan the online profiles, my thoughts are that we'll most likely keep it Caveat Emptor as it is with our current policy with all transactions (whether products or services, etc) posted on ClubSNAP.

 

[Astin]

I think our current system of caveat emptor works. When it works, why fix it.

Yes DP is correct, and I think Clubsnap manage quite well in both the Service section and the BuySell section.

 

[nemesis32]

Yeah, i think it working as intended.. a "model" can claim to have 10 years exp and still need guidance on posing and a "photographer" can have 10 yr exp and still don't know how to shoot decently.

As for whether it's free or paid and how exp, as long as someone willing to pay, i dont see any problem.

 

[catchlights]

Yeah, i think it working as intended.. a "model" can claim to have 10 years exp and still need guidance on posing and a "photographer" can have 10 yr exp and still don't know how to shoot decently.

As for whether it's free or paid and how exp, as long as someone willing to pay, i dont see any problem.

LOL! how many people here want a model has 10 years experience?

10 years experience!! XMM also become auntie liao.... can go and look for Sion, he is hardcore auntie shooter with many years experience........ :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

 

[catchlights]

I know this has been the most-asked-for function since we soft launched the directory.... but I just haven't been able to spare time to work on it and so until its ready, anyone who wants to update their data can just send me a pm and I will do it manually.

Apologies for any inconvenience... :sweat:

Thanks, I think I just leave it at it this for the moment, so many listed photographers in the directories, I already having a hard time to look for my own name, let along who will come and look for mine?? :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:

thanks again.