Mobile Photo booth on 8 June 2014

[Jessintha Sasayiah]

Hey there,

looking for a company or individual to provide a mobile photobooth service

Type : Indian Wedding Reception Lunch @ Club House
Date : 08 June 2014, Sunday 1100am - 230pm (3.5 Hours)
Budget: $350

From previous experiences, standard packages usually includes as follows:

Unlimited instant 4R memento prints provided for everyone in the photo
1 printed copy of each photo for wedding scrapbook
Customised digital frame.
Professional studio lighting
*Prints come with up to a 2-photo layout- Please advise if possible
*Each photo presented in a table calendar holder-Please advise if possible
*Large LCD display for instant viewing pleasure- Please advise if possible
Quirky props
Provide backdrop
All high resolution Images in design template returned in thumb drive
1 x Event Photographer.
1 x Print Artist/On Site Assistant (marshall guests to the Booth)

Payment after the shoot.

Please email to : bhilarej@gmail.com
or whatapp/sms to: 98583557 (Please do not call me)

Some photo references/links would be good.

Thank You.

Regards

Jason Bhilare

 

[cteteris]

There's a bit of a disconnect between your budget and your expectations. You're probably going to need to modify one or the other.

 

[themoondancerwalks]

There's a bit of a disconnect between your budget and your expectations. You're probably going to need to modify one or the other.

I strongly agree with cteteris.

 

[catchlights]

There are many people come here to post for service request, for whatever kind of budget they offered, they always able to find some willing takers.

As long they able to find someone can work within their stated budget, they will think that is the right price to them and it should be what the market offers.
and what other photographers offer above their budget are overpriced.

I guess you guys also don't wish to serve customers like this, so just accept this situation and move on.


uninformed customers and uninformed photographers are perfectly match, just let them live happily ever after.

 

[CarlPeter]

There are many people come here to post for service request, for whatever kind of budget they offered, they always able to find some willing takers.

As long they able to find someone can work within their stated budget, they will think that is the right price to them and it should be what the market offers.
and what other photographers offer above their budget are overpriced.



I guess you guys also don't wish to serve customers like this, so just accept this situation and move on.


uninformed customers and uninformed photographers are perfectly match, just let them live happily ever after.

Nicely said Mr ?..lights...

 

[armee]

Agreed.

Even $8 per hr , there are taker. Based on his current offer, his mail box might have been flooded..

 

[cteteris]

Maybe for show up and shoot jobs offered this low, someone would probably take. Considering how much equipment and printing costs involved in the expected package there are two options

1 - the photographer doesn't have their own equipment and has to rent it and will very quickly find out that the job will cost them more than the budget offered. I hope for their sake that they price it out before accepting the job.
2- a photographer who already has already invested in the required equipment has probably done booth set ups enough to know that it's not worth the time.

 

[red eye]

There are many people come here to post for service request, for whatever kind of budget they offered, they always able to find some willing takers.

As long they able to find someone can work within their stated budget, they will think that is the right price to them and it should be what the market offers.
and what other photographers offer above their budget are overpriced.

I guess you guys also don't wish to serve customers like this, so just accept this situation and move on.


uninformed customers and uninformed photographers are perfectly match, just let them live happily ever after.

I've been trying to suggest to somehow segregate the really cheapo clients somehow or just delete them off

but so far nothing has been done, its always saying thats how it is... if you as the admin also want to elevate the status of clubsnap you should i think also do something, but you always just say just accept... so if no change will happen then clubsnap will always be a cheapo place for clients

i think members have somehow been giving suggestions, but the admin themselves dont do anything

i'm sorry to say this but this is the truth and what is happening, its not meant to offend the admins.

 

[NormanSelvaraju]

Hello Red Eye. I read your reply and I have to speak up to support the admin in this matter(not that they need any support). I really don't think that they are doing nothing just because they don't care. And the way you make it seem is like they aren't concerned by the gravity of the matter.

In fact they do ensure that certain requirements are satisfied such as the nature of the job and the payment before the post is approved. This is for the benefit of the Clubsnap members.

Though I don't know the admins on a personal level and neither am I a photographer who takes up paid jobs, I feel that that the stand that the admins are taking for this case and many similar to this, is the correct one. (Even a hobbyist like me can calculate the costs involved with the hardware, be it rental or depreciation, per photo print cost, transport, man-hours and other incidentals to realize that the price offered will only result in a low profit margin)

The admins don't IMPOSE a market rate minimum to be adhered to before the post is approved. I think that is fair because that way they are kepping Clubsnap pretty open and extremely democratic. It's a free forum. And I appreciate the maturity and the macro view that the admins have taken.

Just a side note, if there is a minimum that is imposed per job (to protect the photographer) should there be a maximum to protect the client? And who decides? Very tricky questions to answer.

All in all, I just wanna say I think the admins and the mods are doing a pretty stellar job in keeping the forum open and democratic and lets just hope common sense rules the day. The free market often works itself out.

Regards,
Norman.

 

[red eye]

Hello Red Eye. I read your reply and I have to speak up to support the admin in this matter(not that they need any support). I really don't think that they are doing nothing just because they don't care. And the way you make it seem is like they aren't concerned by the gravity of the matter.

In fact they do ensure that certain requirements are satisfied such as the nature of the job and the payment before the post is approved. This is for the benefit of the Clubsnap members.

Though I don't know the admins on a personal level and neither am I a photographer who takes up paid jobs, I feel that that the stand that the admins are taking for this case and many similar to this, is the correct one. (Even a hobbyist like me can calculate the costs involved with the hardware, be it rental or depreciation, per photo print cost, transport, man-hours and other incidentals to realize that the price offered will only result in a low profit margin)

The admins don't IMPOSE a market rate minimum to be adhered to before the post is approved. I think that is fair because that way they are kepping Clubsnap pretty open and extremely democratic. It's a free forum. And I appreciate the maturity and the macro view that the admins have taken.

Just a side note, if there is a minimum that is imposed per job (to protect the photographer) should there be a maximum to protect the client? And who decides? Very tricky questions to answer.

All in all, I just wanna say I think the admins and the mods are doing a pretty stellar job in keeping the forum open and democratic and lets just hope common sense rules the day. The free market often works itself out.

Regards,
Norman.

well if they are doing as you say doing something... how come the there's no change, and we just see the same scenario all the time?

well if there was a change, i sure didn't see it, coz been a member for sometime now and it's been the same thing ever since

i didn't suggest a minimum and max, last time i suggested is more of categorizing

 

[catchlights]

It is interesting to know till today you still don't know I'm just a moderator, after so many PM exchanged over the years.
Let me say this again, I'm Not the Admin of this forum, I don't own any part of this forum, same like many other moderators in this forum, we are just volunteer to help to look after this forum. We offer our time, and knowledge, but we do not expect any in return.

and if you read the sticky threads in photography services directory, service wanted, you will understand our stands, we are consistence on our basic principle, and making progress over the years.

I've been trying to suggest to somehow segregate the really cheapo clients somehow or just delete them off

Let me refresh your memory, you are the one who suggested to have a free service section, I'm not sure why you don't well come such cheapo client now?

anyway, the thread is still open, you are welcome to post some update.



FYI, why there are so many clients / customers to come here to look for cheap deal?

You want to know the truth? Can you handle the truth?

OK, Here's the truth;
Because all the cheap photographers are here, how can it don't attract so many cheapo clients / customers??


We have taken the steps of;
asking all service request thread need to state budget accordingly.
No TFCD for commercial entity.


Are OUR photographers wiling take the next steps to attract the right customers / clients here?

 

[catchlights]

these are the steps that I think photographers can do, feel free to add if any of you think it will help everyone here.


- photographers should equip themselves with adequate photography knowledge before going around offer their services.


- photographers should equip with basic business knowledge before charging for their services.


- photographers should have proper marketing plan to reach their target customers/ clients


- photographers should allocate enough time and resources for continue education.



As these need photographers to take their initiative to do it, nobody can do these for them.

 

[catchlights]

BTW,

You want us to delete cheapo customers threads?
to be fair to everyone, shouldn't we also delete all these "Budget......, Affordable...... TFCD....... FREE" threads in photography services directory too??

 

[red eye]

BTW,

You want us to delete cheapo customers threads?
to be fair to everyone, shouldn't we also delete all these "Budget......, Affordable...... TFCD....... FREE" threads in photography services directory too??

i dont blame u, and i really cant blame you, and you are very right to say that the main reason why there are cheapo clients is because there are cheapo photographers, i mean we all know thats the reason

i was suggesting as last time, maybe can categorize it... not delete it

maybe you can categorize as such

(just an example, not really an exact thing)

for beginner photographer assignments / projects (good to say its for the lower budget clients)
then for a bit more experienced
then for the very experienced

again its just a suggestion, i'm sure there are other better suggestions out there

yes its true not unless the photographers (people with camera) learn to value themselves there will always be the very budgeted clients

 

[CarlPeter]

There can be no "best fit price" for services unless the Photography Services industry in Singapore is completely regulated. Here in itself will instill a price war amongst the photography industry, and the way this thread is turning out that is exactly what is happening.

Common business practice all around the world in many different fields is for the industry to decide upon itself the standard of quality, service and price. A price structure should be rated on experience and professionalism proved by your portfolio. The better you get the higher the fees you can demand.

No one has the right to say you are or are not a cheapo, and you are or are not qualified to demand a high price for your work. Everyone has the right to have a budget and everyone has the right to ask for a certain amount for their work. Customers and prospective clients should discuss hand in hand and modify their requests to try to come into an agreement based on common local practises. Not use this site to squabble like children.

 

[armee]

Today is a free market . Everyone has right to charge what they want.
If this forum attract cheapo, so be it. You just don't rely to get a job in this forum.
You should market where your market segment is. It will not be fair for moderator to set rule to favour certain group of people.
Just leave it open for everyonez

 

[richiemccaw1]

I believe in letting market forces set the price. If photographers as a whole are not going to accept jobs at cheap rates, then clients would sooner change their impression of us CSers.

However clients who ask for rock bottom rates would have to accept the risk of getting unsatisfactory work. That is a risk that they have to take when opening up such jobs. Would I want to jeopardize an event which I am organising or in-charge of by cheaping out on photography if it is that important that I have to hire someone? Probably not. If I get top quality for rock bottom rates then good for me but I'm not taking that risk. My momma always told me 一分钱，一分货。

I say let nature take its course and let the cheapos go with the cheapos. The market will sort itself out in the long run.

 

[catchlights]

i dont blame u, and i really cant blame you, and you are very right to say that the main reason why there are cheapo clients is because there are cheapo photographers, i mean we all know thats the reason

i was suggesting as last time, maybe can categorize it... not delete it

maybe you can categorize as such

(just an example, not really an exact thing)

for beginner photographer assignments / projects (good to say its for the lower budget clients)
then for a bit more experienced
then for the very experienced

again its just a suggestion, i'm sure there are other better suggestions out there

yes its true not unless the photographers (people with camera) learn to value themselves there will always be the very budgeted clients

Categorise? How?
Who am I to categorise photographers?

Do you know price fixing is against the laws in SG?
so nobody is telling how much photographers should charge, photographers have to go and work out how much they want to charge. Don't expect someone to babysit them, or set up a safety net for them.

anyway, if photographers really want to do something about this, don't talk so much, bring out some actions.
state hourly rate in their own threads, make everything transparent.
anyway, nobody can't serve $500 wedding couples and $2000 wedding couples at the same time, sure customers will get offended. so just pick your own arena and stick to it.

 

[red eye]

Categorise? How?
Who am I to categorise photographers?

Do you know price fixing is against the laws in SG?
so nobody is telling how much photographers should charge, photographers have to go and work out how much they want to charge. Don't expect someone to babysit them, or set up a safety net for them.

anyway, if photographers really want to do something about this, don't talk so much, bring out some actions.
state hourly rate in their own threads, make everything transparent.
anyway, nobody can't serve $500 wedding couples and $2000 wedding couples at the same time, sure customers will get offended. so just pick your own arena and stick to it.

i really dont know what to say, i guess its chicken and egg

 

[catchlights]

i really dont know what to say, i guess its chicken and egg

You want see something done, start from yourself.