Mint?
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Mint condition should be cosmetically in good condition or showroom condition 
Where on earth a photographer bought an equipment and did not use or try it. Then decided to sell and incurred losses not only in monetary term, I guess that person also lost his mind.
If it says not use, meaning should expect factory wrapping intact. Just my 2cents.
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Where on earth a photographer bought an equipment and did not use or try it. Then decided to sell and incurred losses not only in monetary term, I guess that person also lost his mind.
If it says not use, meaning should expect factory wrapping intact. Just my 2cents.
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ivor
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In English term, Mint refers to new and in good condition...
However, it is rather misunderstanding nowadays as it is commonly used even though the item has been used once but in good condition.
I personally, would avoid using such technical term... prefers to print in the exact condition in simple understanding words...
However, it is rather misunderstanding nowadays as it is commonly used even though the item has been used once but in good condition.
I personally, would avoid using such technical term... prefers to print in the exact condition in simple understanding words...
From the results, I now know why every other thing is described "MINT". 
By definition, it's supposed to mean that it's not even been used. I think the comic collectors here (I am not one) will agree with me that for them, "Mint" means unopened as well.
Of coz, no one will buy equipment, don't touch it and sell it at a loss. That's why I think the term has been misused.
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CK
By definition, it's supposed to mean that it's not even been used. I think the comic collectors here (I am not one) will agree with me that for them, "Mint" means unopened as well.
Of coz, no one will buy equipment, don't touch it and sell it at a loss. That's why I think the term has been misused.
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CK
renaissance_myth
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would 'pristine' be a good substitute?
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According to the Oxford American dictionary mint is defined as 'new or like new'
The online dictionary (www.dictionary.com) defines it as 'as if new'
So the word mint can be used for used items that are like new !
The online dictionary (www.dictionary.com) defines it as 'as if new'
So the word mint can be used for used items that are like new !
Mocha
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Originally posted by ckiang
From the results, I now know why every other thing is described "MINT".
By definition, it's supposed to mean that it's not even been used. I think the comic collectors here (I am not one) will agree with me that for them, "Mint" means unopened as well.
Of coz, no one will buy equipment, don't touch it and sell it at a loss. That's why I think the term has been misused.
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CK
I agree with u. That's what I understand mint is all about as I collect stamps, coins etc. Mint means unopen, untouched, unused, to be stricter, no finger prints.
eg. of mint equipments: camera won from lucky draw, or tripod given as birthday present for sale etc.
But again, we can't stop people from misusing the word, maybe we can in clubsnap. Eventually it is up to the buyer to decide and determine their conditions. However, it can be a different story if someone is bidding a product at ebay where we all believe mint means unused only to be surprised at the conditions when the goods finally arrives.
Originally posted by Mocha
I agree with u. That's what I understand mint is all about as I collect stamps, coins etc. Mint means unopen, untouched, unused, to be stricter, no finger prints.
eg. of mint equipments: camera won from lucky draw, or tripod given as birthday present for sale etc.
But again, we can't stop people from misusing the word, maybe we can in clubsnap. Eventually it is up to the buyer to decide and determine their conditions. However, it can be a different story if someone is bidding a product at ebay where we all believe mint means unused only to be surprised at the conditions when the goods finally arrives.
Absolutely agreed, with both yourself and ckiang. Mint used to refer to "unused", "not opened", "straight from factory". In the comics and model "realm", mint is a whole different ball game altogether, but i guess we are not in that realm, eh?
Now mint at CS means anything from used lightly, to moderate use but look like new.
imaginary_number
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Thought I would like to bring this thread up again cos I'm puzzled about this in Buy/Sell.
By definition of "mint" from Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary, "mint", as an adjective means "unmarred as if fresh from a mint".
Thus, even if it has been used, as long as it looks like and is in a brand new condition, it should be considered "mint".
So are we redefining the term "mint" in CS? :dunno:
Originally posted by ckiang
Whether it's really, really, really new, as long as it has been used before, it can no longer qualify as "mint" liao.
I've seen his D60 as well, really, really, really, really new, not abused. Just not "mint"
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CK
By definition of "mint" from Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary, "mint", as an adjective means "unmarred as if fresh from a mint".
Thus, even if it has been used, as long as it looks like and is in a brand new condition, it should be considered "mint".
So are we redefining the term "mint" in CS? :dunno:
i guess what's important is the intent of the seller when using the word mint. if as a form of advert, to attract buyers etc..should be ok.
but if used deliberately (when there are known faults)...rather unacceptable.
in the end i guess the onus is on the seller to be honest with his opinions. if he feels its mint, then its mint.
I do agree with Pain.
We are at the Buy and Sell section, not collector's section. In Buy and Sell, I think it is a marketing strategy to place the item condition to be "mint", ie "as good as brand new" except for the fact that it is being "carefully used".
If I where to grade it at 10/10, isn't it as goo as saying that it is as "as good as new" too? How can "perfect figure" be "imperfect?
If I were to grade it at 9.99/10, just because I have used it, won't the buyer be wondering what happen or what is the flaw of the 0.01/10 of the item? Scratched? Knocked? Dropped?
We are buying via the net, of course there is no way to judge the quality of the item just by reading threads, except "mint" is probably brand new unless one meets an real "unethical" seller.
The above is my humble opinion as a newbie who don't know how to check for flaws of equipment as yet, unless it is disfigured.
We are at the Buy and Sell section, not collector's section. In Buy and Sell, I think it is a marketing strategy to place the item condition to be "mint", ie "as good as brand new" except for the fact that it is being "carefully used".
If I where to grade it at 10/10, isn't it as goo as saying that it is as "as good as new" too? How can "perfect figure" be "imperfect?
If I were to grade it at 9.99/10, just because I have used it, won't the buyer be wondering what happen or what is the flaw of the 0.01/10 of the item? Scratched? Knocked? Dropped?
We are buying via the net, of course there is no way to judge the quality of the item just by reading threads, except "mint" is probably brand new unless one meets an real "unethical" seller.
The above is my humble opinion as a newbie who don't know how to check for flaws of equipment as yet, unless it is disfigured.
Here mint means "does not fall to pieces when looked at". I was once about to buy a used EOS-50. The owner advertised it as "mint condition, works perfectly". When I saw it I got a shock. There were scratch marks all over and one big gash on the flash. The shutter looked quite messed up too.
One other time when I was inspecting a 550EX labelled "absolutely mint" it looked like it was put through a cement mixer.
So... mint is meaningless.
One other time when I was inspecting a 550EX labelled "absolutely mint" it looked like it was put through a cement mixer.
So... mint is meaningless.
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