Numnumball
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i was on creek walk , as much as i can recalled.. near ferry terminal.. saw several big rocks.. maybe will go bk there again this Sat
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i was on creek walk , as much as i can recalled.. near ferry terminal.. saw several big rocks.. maybe will go bk there again this Sat
night86mare
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i was on creek walk , as much as i can recalled.. near ferry terminal.. saw several big rocks.. maybe will go bk there again this Sat
wrong side, you want to be near changi beach club (cranwell road --> andover road intersection) area. that side is way far away from the ferry terminal. you can walk all the way from your side along the coast, to the tree place..
like i told manita, the part where these two roads meet, you will see a boardwalk beside changi beach club carpark entrance. follow it until you see the kelong walk to your left, turn right, and follow, go down staircase, tree right there.
have fun.
best to go during highest tide, will get water covering the rocks
Numnumball
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wrong side, you want to be near changi beach club (cranwell road --> andover road intersection) area. that side is way far away from the ferry terminal. you can walk all the way from your side along the coast, to the tree place..
like i told manita, the part where these two roads meet, you will see a boardwalk beside changi beach club carpark entrance. follow it until you see the kelong walk to your left, turn right, and follow, go down staircase, tree right there.
have fun.
Ohhh.. No wonder i cant find it..
So should be the extreme left.. Think i m addicted to tat place.. 2nd being sembawang beach :heart:
Thanks Bro..
wildcat
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I like this one a lot :thumbsup:
ahbian
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From your attempts, it think its quite obvious you put in effort in composition, which is a commendable attitude.
The colour balances might be a bit awkward in some, but I'm sure you will improve in them.
I like #29. Compositionally, it is good and since its in black and white, there is no colour balance issues to reduce its impact.
#29
Inspiration from Michael Kenna & Adam Clutterbuck
This is nice Manita. I would clone away the boat mast that is interfering with the tree branches.
Very nice. You are starting to put my pictures to shame. :cry:
MGohzxc
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Hello Uncle Wildcat,
how are you? Long time never hear from you. Thanks for the C&C
Hope to improve more.
MGohzxc
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MGohzxc
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Hi Uncle Albert,
Thanks for the C&C. It was difficult to clone and my cloning was very aweful.... How can my pictures be better than yours? Next time I scared to post ready la... ;p
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You are almost there already Manita, really.
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night86mare
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is it your intention to give a flat looking picture through bnw conversion?
MGohzxc
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Hello Uncle Night86mare,
Wow.. you are very fast. I want to learn. What is the meaning of flat looking? Dont understand.
night86mare
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bnw photography is all about tonality.
well, not all about it, but it is especially important, since the shades are all you have, dumping colour.
how did you derive this picture - was it out of cam? if it was initially in colour, what did you do to it? if it was taken with in-cam preset settings, my advice is that to get the most out of monotone pictures, you should avoid this. if it was in colour, whatever method you are using - in my opinion... i fear it does not do the picture justice.
could you post up original colour photo (if not taken in-cam)? perhaps i could illustrate with a few conversions. a picture says a thousand words, so 3 or 4 different bnw versions would express 3000-4000 words.
MGohzxc
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bnw photography is all about tonality.
well, not all about it, but it is especially important, since the shades are all you have, dumping colour.
how did you derive this picture - was it out of cam? if it was initially in colour, what did you do to it? if it was taken with in-cam preset settings, my advice is that to get the most out of monotone pictures, you should avoid this. if it was in colour, whatever method you are using - in my opinion... i fear it does not do the picture justice.
could you post up original colour photo (if not taken in-cam)? perhaps i could illustrate with a few conversions. a picture says a thousand words, so 3 or 4 different bnw versions would express 3000-4000 words.
Hello Uncle Night86mare,
The picture was taken in color. I will post the color one right now...
night86mare
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here are 5 bnw versions of your single color picture.
are they the same? they all involve dumping the color, but each one serves a different mood, purpose. some might be more effective to some people, some might be more effective to less people. what is important is which is effective for you?
i asked before - how did you do your conversion? try to play with channel mixer, etc. work more on the curves. the conversion posted up by you previously, i do not like it personally... but if you know why you like it, and you're sure you like it the most... if you are clear on all of these, then that's fine. but what is not desirable is that you are unable to produce something you like, and you settle for something less, because you did not try hard enough.
each picture highlights certain things, downplays certain things...
p.s. you might want to observe what happens to your watermark
p.p.s. i like the 4th conversion here the best, the water has a gentle gradient, the jetty stands out just enough... and thus there is a purpose for the space. but this doesn't mean that everyone will like the fourth one. some days, i might like other photos!
are they the same? they all involve dumping the color, but each one serves a different mood, purpose. some might be more effective to some people, some might be more effective to less people. what is important is which is effective for you?
i asked before - how did you do your conversion? try to play with channel mixer, etc. work more on the curves. the conversion posted up by you previously, i do not like it personally... but if you know why you like it, and you're sure you like it the most... if you are clear on all of these, then that's fine. but what is not desirable is that you are unable to produce something you like, and you settle for something less, because you did not try hard enough.
each picture highlights certain things, downplays certain things...
p.s. you might want to observe what happens to your watermark
p.p.s. i like the 4th conversion here the best, the water has a gentle gradient, the jetty stands out just enough... and thus there is a purpose for the space. but this doesn't mean that everyone will like the fourth one. some days, i might like other photos!
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MGohzxc
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here are 5 bnw versions of your single color picture.
are they the same? they all involve dumping the color, but each one serves a different mood, purpose. some might be more effective to some people, some might be more effective to less people. what is important is which is effective for you?
i asked before - how did you do your conversion? try to play with channel mixer, etc. work more on the curves. the conversion posted up, i do not like it personally... but if you know why you like it, and you're sure you like it the most... if you are clear on all of these, then that's fine. but what is not desirable is that you are unable to produce something you like, and you settle for something less, because you did not try hard enough.
each picture highlights certain things, downplays certain things...
p.s. you might want to observe what happens to your watermark
Hello Uncle Night86mare, Thanks and I think i understand what are you saying now.
When I took the color one, I did not really like the green metal gate with the color of the water and it is not interesting to me. The lighting was also not interesting at all.So I decide to convert in SilverEfex to give me a fresh thinking. I did a few adjustment but the water and the gate was very far part. I mean the water was too bright or white and the gate was a little too much in contrast. Then I use photoshop and did some blending using multiply and adjust the opacity until the water is almost close to the same contrast as the gate and I really like it. I am still not good in playing with the channel mixer. I hope you understand what Im saying. Sorry.
YesI can see the difference with the watermark a well.
Sorry I have to go sleep now. Got school in the morning. Good night and thank you
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