Market Rate 4 Corp Videos


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Just curious about the market rates. Say u r asked to shoot a 3 min documentary (out of the sky idea) that may take 3hours to shoot in one day. Editing takes say... 5hrs plus company ask you to redo twice.

How to quote something like that? I would breakdown by hours but again, i am not sure what people r doing out there.
 

"Out of the sky idea"? very broad lay.. atleast must kno related to wat topic lor?
So u are oso in the producer role? besides ur manhour cost n equipment cost.. concept oso cost some $$ lor! :dunno:
 

Just curious about the market rates. Say u r asked to shoot a 3 min documentary (out of the sky idea) that may take 3hours to shoot in one day. Editing takes say... 5hrs plus company ask you to redo twice.

How to quote something like that? I would breakdown by hours but again, i am not sure what people r doing out there.


For small projects, I usually do calculate by hours as well, but do factor in your creativity charges for script & concept development...

The shortest & cheapest corporate I've done was a 2 day shoot & 2 days of post production that came close to $5k budget....after deducting off director/producer fee of about $2000, production and post production fee came to about $3000.....That's more than 50 hours of work from start of production to delivery, and it tabulates to about $60/hr of my time.

Is it worth it? Maybe worth it for some...but I must say that it's on a shoe-string budget.
I do post-production as an editor for local tv stations & international stations for 2/3rd of that amount even without spending a cent on equipment investment.)


Another example:
My last corporate training video that i took up was a very low rate at below $20k, considering client's requirement of chroma key filming.
Perhaps let me break down a bit for your considerations.

- Scripting & storyboarding - $2000
- Producing / Directing fee - $2500
- 5 days of filming with full crew - $6000+
- 5 days of post production with VO recording & use of licensed music - $8000+
(Not exact figures, but close enough for reference)

With a bit of ding-donging between clients, amendments, changes, requests for last minute shoots to squeeze in a few interviews with the company's bosses, etc.....

All these time and money spent went to pay professional crew and other services that it tabulates to a pathetic amount of earnings for the trouble of producing and project managing this corporate video....

It's no doubt that we can cut corners, cut budget, save a bit here and there, self-produce, self-direct, self-film, self-edit, etc.....but if each individual department of production should be paid what they're worth, shouldn't you be paid what you're worth even if you're taking up all these roles in the production? :)


Unlike wedding or event videos where it's usually a one-man production, event driven storyline/structure, corporate videos need a lot of pre-production planning and scripting. And usually the one-man production team will find it hard to handle alone....I've been there and done that.....when you require external production assistance, your cost will go up, so you'll need to take in considerations of proper budgeting.

Do remember that if you cannot deliver the video as promised, your reputation is at stake.


Some of the figures I've mentioned may be considered quite a high amount to some, but it is really considered to be damn low.....just imagine some creative companies charge $100k to produce a 30sec TV commercial..... :D

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thks for the insights. I'm looking to move into cooperate stuff if the opportunity comes but I have no idea how one can charge for the work involved.

Take for an example I am to shoot a 3min introduction video of a company capability. Scripting and Story boarding take a few days, Shooting will prob take one full day, post editing 20hrs with no voice over. Plus all the horror stories u guys have on the amendments.. say limit it to twice.

I guess the way is to charge by man hours? How does one charge for scripting and storyboarding? Shooting man hr? Editing man hour?
 

thks for the insights. I'm looking to move into cooperate stuff if the opportunity comes but I have no idea how one can charge for the work involved.

Take for an example I am to shoot a 3min introduction video of a company capability. Scripting and Story boarding take a few days, Shooting will prob take one full day, post editing 20hrs with no voice over. Plus all the horror stories u guys have on the amendments.. say limit it to twice.

I guess the way is to charge by man hours? How does one charge for scripting and storyboarding? Shooting man hr? Editing man hour?


Dunno how to charge and manage clients?
Just get experienced producers/production managers like Sundazz to play producer and pay him for it. :D
Same theory as if you need help in legal matters, you'd go to a lawyer...if you need medical attention, you look for a doctor... :D

If you're moving up from doing event & wedding videos where you're used to operating one-man show. It's time to learn the theory of "Got money, earn together....."

TV and video production requires a team....and it's really difficult to go far if you intend to 'wrap-mountain, wrap-sea" as the chinese saying goes.... :D

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I totally agree with Dixon! Seek advise from a specialist. Also PROTECT market rates, you'll protect all our livelihood. If its a pie, eat together, one'll die of choking and overeating if one bites more than one can chew. : )
 

yeah understood! Thks for the good advice. I will know where to look when the time comes :)
 

yeah, video production is good to have a team work.
just a little suggestion.. i believe many people here are one man show? just wonder if any possibility that a few can join forces to set up a team to work together on projects?:think:
 

Cost wise, I think it's difficult for many independents to justify for a full crew production.
Clients usually have limited budget, and with the marginal profits, it is more economical to operate alone and reduce overheads.

I'm actually thinking of expanding my multicam production capability that will require quite a few videographers with own cameras. If the other fulltime independent videographers here are interested, we can discuss further for possible collaboration. :thumbsup:
 

i totally agree it really depends on the scale of the productions..
Do let me know if i can be one of your cam operator for any multi-cam shoot :)
have a DVX102 & a Z1. or do u have any particular cam model for ur multi-cam?
 

Me too! Have a Dvx 102B and Sony EX-1.
 

I think I've met some of the more regular guys here...perhaps we really need to have a videography section kopi session to discuss further. :D

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yes.. a cofe session will be good.. i am in :)
 

Cost wise, I think it's difficult for many independents to justify for a full crew production.
Clients usually have limited budget, and with the marginal profits, it is more economical to operate alone and reduce overheads.

I'm actually thinking of expanding my multicam production capability that will require quite a few videographers with own cameras. If the other fulltime independent videographers here are interested, we can discuss further for possible collaboration. :thumbsup:

Hi Dixon

I'm also keen, both to learn and to experience from Pros like all of you. Also to look at real pro equipment and workflow which my kind of low budget videographer may never see in my life.

I'm independent videographer, but not full time yet. Any possibility for part-time independent videographers too? Thanks.
 

Cost wise, I think it's difficult for many independents to justify for a full crew production.
Clients usually have limited budget, and with the marginal profits, it is more economical to operate alone and reduce overheads.

I'm actually thinking of expanding my multicam production capability that will require quite a few videographers with own cameras. If the other fulltime independent videographers here are interested, we can discuss further for possible collaboration. :thumbsup:

yeah man! Count me in too! lolx! multi-cam's exciting man! doing one-cam for too long can become quite..er..u know..lolx! :sweat:
 

I smell coffee. Were and when?
 

my schedule is quite packed for the rest of the year....don't dare to commit to any date for kopi or meetup unless you guys can make it at last minute noticifications. Drop me a PM with your contact numbers...if I can make it with at least two days ahead notification, I will mass SMS you guys to see how many can turn up. :D

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