coolhirako
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It is time to sack DM
Man Utd XIV : New Manager New ERA
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Halfmoon
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Only crosses? I close shop at half time. How did man u score?
Halfmoon
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I am tired of his tactics. ... or lack of... and he do not use players well....
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I think they will give him another season.
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Jerry Chan
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Once upon a time, with 10 minutes to go, 2-1 up, MU would have sealed a victory for the game. That's what I thought, comfortably went to bed without finishing the game. Shockingly, the dreadful thing happened, our defense did not stand firm long enough, let Fulham went home with a point. Did we deserve a win as what DM said after the game? If sending 81 crosses into penalty box deserves a win, then other clubs doing the same and their managers claiming deserve to win, that's utterly nonsense. The probability of scoring and chances to get opponents' own goals through deflection are higher and that's what DM's tactics is all about, then it has definitely spelled the end of us this season. Again, we desperately needs a win but did not do so against the lowest positioned club in the League and a home game with our strongest strike force, 5 of them. What a sad MU predicament, neither here or there, no more excuses already.
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80 plus crosses means nothing. It is the goal that counts.
Halfmoon
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I bet there's a lot of angry fans.
Some will say this will remove those plastic.
But fan of Man U love good attacking gung ho soccer. .... I doubt we are getting this now.
We getting boring cross and hope rvp head and score.... type of game.
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Halfmoon
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81 crosses....... lol..... but this don't win you games...
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Chicharito hints at United unrest
February 10, 2014
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1710784/chicharito-hints-manchester-united-unrest?cc=4716
Javier Hernandez has fuelled speculation that he will quit Manchester United at the end of the season by posting an enigmatic message on his Instagram page.
Following United's 2-2 draw with Fulham at Old Trafford, in which Hernandez replaced Ashley Young as a second-half substitute, Mexico striker Hernandez wrote: "The time to speak about so many things will come "
In January, his agent and father, Eduardo, told ESPN the 25-year-old was wanted by six clubs in Spain, Italy, France and Germany, including "one of the top 10 teams in the world."
However, the player said he was determined to stay at Old Trafford and fight for his place -- but his patience with under-fire manager David Moyes appears to have snapped after he was overlooked for a starting role in the Fulham match.
February 10, 2014
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1710784/chicharito-hints-manchester-united-unrest?cc=4716
Javier Hernandez has fuelled speculation that he will quit Manchester United at the end of the season by posting an enigmatic message on his Instagram page.
Following United's 2-2 draw with Fulham at Old Trafford, in which Hernandez replaced Ashley Young as a second-half substitute, Mexico striker Hernandez wrote: "The time to speak about so many things will come "
In January, his agent and father, Eduardo, told ESPN the 25-year-old was wanted by six clubs in Spain, Italy, France and Germany, including "one of the top 10 teams in the world."
However, the player said he was determined to stay at Old Trafford and fight for his place -- but his patience with under-fire manager David Moyes appears to have snapped after he was overlooked for a starting role in the Fulham match.
Halfmoon
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United used ‘non-league tactics’ - Burn
February 10, 2014
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1710804/fulham-were-happy-defend-united-crosses?cc=4716
Fulham defender Dan Burn believes Manchester United played into his side’s hands with their policy of relentless crossing during Sunday’s 2-2 draw.
United put in a record 81 deliveries at Old Trafford but many were headed away by the visitors’ 6ft 6in centre-back -- who made 22 clearances -- while David de Gea and Nemanja Vidic were the only Red Devils players not to put in a cross.
Burn, 21, revealed that Fulham had prepared for the Red Devils to keep on crossing and were “happy” to see David Moyes’ side continuing to put the ball into the box.
He said: “At the end of the day I'm happy for them to play like that. We knew that we were going to defend our box well. We were going to keep our back four quite narrow so that we were between the goal and the wingers were going to look after the wide men.
“We've been working on that in training. I thought it worked well. They've had plenty of crosses, loads of chances and stuff but the second goal [Michael Carrick’s deflected shot] was quite lucky.”
Fulham head coach Rene Meulensteen described United’s approach as “straightforward” and said it was “easy” to defend against.
And former Darlington defender Burn said the aerial assault reminded him of his days in non-league football, adding: “I've never headed that many balls since [playing in] the Conference.”
Meanwhile, United’s record signing Juan Mata said he believes that the Premier League champions, who lost 2-1 at Stoke eight days earlier, were unlucky again to only draw with Fulham.
He wrote in his blog: “I think football is being cruel with us. We did everything to get the three points, but in the end this is about goals and Fulham scored in the last minute. It seems impossible if you look at the stats, but we couldn’t win.
“It was the same a week ago against Stoke City, with two players injured and one goal after a deflection. It seems that luck is not on our side, but you know that I don’t like to give excuses. We have to get better and improve our shooting accuracy, because we got many times to the box and could have scored more than two goals.”
February 10, 2014
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1710804/fulham-were-happy-defend-united-crosses?cc=4716
Fulham defender Dan Burn believes Manchester United played into his side’s hands with their policy of relentless crossing during Sunday’s 2-2 draw.
United put in a record 81 deliveries at Old Trafford but many were headed away by the visitors’ 6ft 6in centre-back -- who made 22 clearances -- while David de Gea and Nemanja Vidic were the only Red Devils players not to put in a cross.
Burn, 21, revealed that Fulham had prepared for the Red Devils to keep on crossing and were “happy” to see David Moyes’ side continuing to put the ball into the box.
He said: “At the end of the day I'm happy for them to play like that. We knew that we were going to defend our box well. We were going to keep our back four quite narrow so that we were between the goal and the wingers were going to look after the wide men.
“We've been working on that in training. I thought it worked well. They've had plenty of crosses, loads of chances and stuff but the second goal [Michael Carrick’s deflected shot] was quite lucky.”
Fulham head coach Rene Meulensteen described United’s approach as “straightforward” and said it was “easy” to defend against.
And former Darlington defender Burn said the aerial assault reminded him of his days in non-league football, adding: “I've never headed that many balls since [playing in] the Conference.”
Meanwhile, United’s record signing Juan Mata said he believes that the Premier League champions, who lost 2-1 at Stoke eight days earlier, were unlucky again to only draw with Fulham.
He wrote in his blog: “I think football is being cruel with us. We did everything to get the three points, but in the end this is about goals and Fulham scored in the last minute. It seems impossible if you look at the stats, but we couldn’t win.
“It was the same a week ago against Stoke City, with two players injured and one goal after a deflection. It seems that luck is not on our side, but you know that I don’t like to give excuses. We have to get better and improve our shooting accuracy, because we got many times to the box and could have scored more than two goals.”
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Three Things: Man United vs. Fulham
Posted by Richard Jolly
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/thematch/id/1814?cc=4716
MANCHESTER -- Three quick observations from Old Trafford as Fulham equalize in injury time to earn a 2-2 draw with struggling Manchester United ...
1. United cause themselves more problems
The boos at the final whistle told a tale. Patience is wearing thin at Old Trafford. Manchester United's self-destructive streak is ever more prominent, their shortcomings an ever greater problem. Even when it appeared United had dodged a bullet by coming from 1-0 down to take a lead, they contrived to concede in the 94th minute.
Darren Bent scored an equaliser that may damage United more than it benefits Fulham. Once again, Old Trafford has emptied with the fans disappointed. In a dreadful 2014, their worst moments, whether the FA Cup exit to Swansea or the ignominious failure to convert four penalties in the shootout with Sunderland, have been reserved for the home crowd. Before too long, they may turn on David Moyes.
It was, too, a chastening day for Nemanja Vidic. The captain was celebrated at the start following the announcement of his impending departure. Yet he was also a prime culprit for the equaliser, and struggled throughout. A moment when Kieran Richardson sped past him, in particular, made him look his 32 years.
United had trailed initially to the excellent Steve Sidwell's volley. Then, after John Arne Riise made a wonderful block to keep Javier Hernandez's shot out, Juan Mata steered the rebound into Robin van Persie's path and the Dutchman finished. Following on from Richardson's poor clearance, Michael Carrick's shot flew in within two minutes, aided by a sizeable deflection off Scott Parker. United, it seemed, had gotten out of jail.
Then they contrived to clamber back in, allowing Richardson to shoot and, when David de Gea parried, affording Bent the chance to head in the rebound. Again, Vidic was slow to react.
And so, two more points were dropped. They are nine adrift of fourth-placed Liverpool. Next season's Champions League is ever more unlikely to feature England's defending champions.
2. David Moyes' side get cross
A frequent criticism of Moyes' tactics is that United are overreliant on crosses and unable to fashion chances in the middle of the pitch. If the signing of Juan Mata was recognition that United need to be more creative in central areas, stationing him on the right prevents even a natural wanderer from spending much of the match in the No. 10 position. Yet with Mata, United became more one-dimensional.
What it meant was that United had another player in a crossing position. With Ashley Young and Rafael da Silva offering the majority of the supply line from the sides, United crossed. And crossed. And crossed. They put in 46 crosses in the first half alone. They soon cruised past the previous high in the division this season, Stoke's total of 51 -- not since Bob Beamon added 55 centimetres to the long jump record in 1968 has a sporting best been set with such conspicuous ease.
It wasn't the most logical approach against a team with a 6-foot-6 centre-back in Dan Burn, especially with Fulham defending deep and narrow, and having plenty of other players in their own box to head crosses away.
Indeed, it rather suggested Rene Meulensteen was happy to cede space on the flanks and allow United to cross, presuming a compact shape would allow them to deal with the aerial bombardment and rationalising that the lack of variety in the hosts' play and the absence of genuine invention could enable them to survive spells of pressure.
And while the crosses did produce some chances, there were nothing like as many as might be expected from the sheer volume of them. Of United's 82 crosses in 95 minutes, just 18 found their mark.
3. Meulensteen throws a curveball
An act of desperation or inspiration? At first, it looked like the former, then the latter. Fulham earned a surprise point, but the greatest shock came with the arrival of the team sheets. Meulensteen's former employer, Sir Alex Ferguson, used to give himself the element of surprise by selecting a side few had predicted. Sir Bobby Charlton used to play a game he said he never won when he attempted to guess Ferguson's team, but inside knowledge or psychic powers would have been required to anticipate this Fulham lineup.
It says something that the oddest element was not the decision to give an 18-year-old a full Premier League debut, alone in attack and at Old Trafford. With Brede Hangeland and Scott Parker beginning on the bench, Meulensteen removed both his defensive totem and midfield fulcrum. The emphasis was on the new, with five players boasting a combined total of two previous league starts for the club, and the young.
The youngest of all, the teenager Muamer Tankovic, did not return for the second half. Darren Bent at least provided a token presence on the halfway line thereafter. Before that -- especially after Fulham scored -- they often had 11 men behind the ball. When they counterattacked, it was sometimes simply with the quickest players. The formation veered from a flat back four to a retreating 10. Yet they were organised and committed and, when they trailed, they had the spirit to respond.
Meulensteen's great gamble was justified. Now he needs to baffle the managers of the other relegation-threatened sides.
Posted by Richard Jolly
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/thematch/id/1814?cc=4716
MANCHESTER -- Three quick observations from Old Trafford as Fulham equalize in injury time to earn a 2-2 draw with struggling Manchester United ...
1. United cause themselves more problems
The boos at the final whistle told a tale. Patience is wearing thin at Old Trafford. Manchester United's self-destructive streak is ever more prominent, their shortcomings an ever greater problem. Even when it appeared United had dodged a bullet by coming from 1-0 down to take a lead, they contrived to concede in the 94th minute.
Darren Bent scored an equaliser that may damage United more than it benefits Fulham. Once again, Old Trafford has emptied with the fans disappointed. In a dreadful 2014, their worst moments, whether the FA Cup exit to Swansea or the ignominious failure to convert four penalties in the shootout with Sunderland, have been reserved for the home crowd. Before too long, they may turn on David Moyes.
It was, too, a chastening day for Nemanja Vidic. The captain was celebrated at the start following the announcement of his impending departure. Yet he was also a prime culprit for the equaliser, and struggled throughout. A moment when Kieran Richardson sped past him, in particular, made him look his 32 years.
United had trailed initially to the excellent Steve Sidwell's volley. Then, after John Arne Riise made a wonderful block to keep Javier Hernandez's shot out, Juan Mata steered the rebound into Robin van Persie's path and the Dutchman finished. Following on from Richardson's poor clearance, Michael Carrick's shot flew in within two minutes, aided by a sizeable deflection off Scott Parker. United, it seemed, had gotten out of jail.
Then they contrived to clamber back in, allowing Richardson to shoot and, when David de Gea parried, affording Bent the chance to head in the rebound. Again, Vidic was slow to react.
And so, two more points were dropped. They are nine adrift of fourth-placed Liverpool. Next season's Champions League is ever more unlikely to feature England's defending champions.
2. David Moyes' side get cross
A frequent criticism of Moyes' tactics is that United are overreliant on crosses and unable to fashion chances in the middle of the pitch. If the signing of Juan Mata was recognition that United need to be more creative in central areas, stationing him on the right prevents even a natural wanderer from spending much of the match in the No. 10 position. Yet with Mata, United became more one-dimensional.
What it meant was that United had another player in a crossing position. With Ashley Young and Rafael da Silva offering the majority of the supply line from the sides, United crossed. And crossed. And crossed. They put in 46 crosses in the first half alone. They soon cruised past the previous high in the division this season, Stoke's total of 51 -- not since Bob Beamon added 55 centimetres to the long jump record in 1968 has a sporting best been set with such conspicuous ease.
It wasn't the most logical approach against a team with a 6-foot-6 centre-back in Dan Burn, especially with Fulham defending deep and narrow, and having plenty of other players in their own box to head crosses away.
Indeed, it rather suggested Rene Meulensteen was happy to cede space on the flanks and allow United to cross, presuming a compact shape would allow them to deal with the aerial bombardment and rationalising that the lack of variety in the hosts' play and the absence of genuine invention could enable them to survive spells of pressure.
And while the crosses did produce some chances, there were nothing like as many as might be expected from the sheer volume of them. Of United's 82 crosses in 95 minutes, just 18 found their mark.
3. Meulensteen throws a curveball
An act of desperation or inspiration? At first, it looked like the former, then the latter. Fulham earned a surprise point, but the greatest shock came with the arrival of the team sheets. Meulensteen's former employer, Sir Alex Ferguson, used to give himself the element of surprise by selecting a side few had predicted. Sir Bobby Charlton used to play a game he said he never won when he attempted to guess Ferguson's team, but inside knowledge or psychic powers would have been required to anticipate this Fulham lineup.
It says something that the oddest element was not the decision to give an 18-year-old a full Premier League debut, alone in attack and at Old Trafford. With Brede Hangeland and Scott Parker beginning on the bench, Meulensteen removed both his defensive totem and midfield fulcrum. The emphasis was on the new, with five players boasting a combined total of two previous league starts for the club, and the young.
The youngest of all, the teenager Muamer Tankovic, did not return for the second half. Darren Bent at least provided a token presence on the halfway line thereafter. Before that -- especially after Fulham scored -- they often had 11 men behind the ball. When they counterattacked, it was sometimes simply with the quickest players. The formation veered from a flat back four to a retreating 10. Yet they were organised and committed and, when they trailed, they had the spirit to respond.
Meulensteen's great gamble was justified. Now he needs to baffle the managers of the other relegation-threatened sides.
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