LX7 $699 and RX100 $969 coming this Thursday!
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NewbietoPro
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hey guys, i am thinking of getting either one to use together with my DSLR.
Of which these 2 models,
1) Which has a better low light capability? (Not just specs comparing but real life testing)
2) Which has a better noise control?
3) Which IQ is better?
I had went online to search all the informations but there are all mixed informations thus i am asking for some advice here.
Of which these 2 models,
1) Which has a better low light capability? (Not just specs comparing but real life testing)
2) Which has a better noise control?
3) Which IQ is better?
I had went online to search all the informations but there are all mixed informations thus i am asking for some advice here.
Guess what? You will still get mixed informations as everyone has different preferences.
Try out at the shop and make a choice. If you are into real IQ, also try out the some APS-C mirrorless as they are just slightly bigger in size but mostly better IQ with better low light IQ.
Unless you really need the size for portability, or else with this price, you can get a brand new 5N with kit lens.
Try out at the shop and make a choice. If you are into real IQ, also try out the some APS-C mirrorless as they are just slightly bigger in size but mostly better IQ with better low light IQ.
Unless you really need the size for portability, or else with this price, you can get a brand new 5N with kit lens.
NewbietoPro
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Quite true dude. Thanks for the information.
I need one which is portable and no need to invest in lens thus i gave up nex5n
(Wanting to invest in Canon Lens instead).NewbietoPro said:
Very simple, can request for Clubsnap to do a test comparison, ha.
Actually, it's a give and take between what you're looking for, if for the price of $200-$300 more you can get some improvements and you don't mind it, the RX100 sounds like a good option. Then again, at RX100 price point, you have NEX F3 and GF5 that comes in cheaper, both boasting better IQ, better low light and better noise control.
Pricing wise, the RX really is a contradiction in its own way. Sacrifice portability and get better IQ in its own mirrorless, or pay for the portability and sacrifice IQ.
Really depends on what you need.
sebastiansong
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Quite true dude. Thanks for the information.
I need one which is portable and no need to invest in lens thus i gave up nex5n
Either one is fine. You can't go too far wrong with either.
The impt thing is how you are using the camera rather than how the camera IQ. If both blends then its a winner.
I got the LX7, having owned LX3 and LX5. There have been marked improved to the design of the camera.
Sony is truly a pocket camera, fantastic image quality, more art filters (especially the nice panoramic feature) due to larger sensor but it has no hotshoe and that could be a concern. Furthermore I don understand why its 28mm versus LX7 24mm and its aperture range is 1.8 to 4.9 (a constant of 2.8 would be more beneficial. 4.9 is just too dark for me).
If you are traveling or have friends going HK, you could get the camera for about 750 (just make sure you have international warranty that you will be fine)
sebastiansong said:
The aperture of 4.9 is a sacrifice for compact size, same as S100.
In order to achieve a big aperture at both wide and tele, the number of elements and size can't be compromised too much. That's why LX7 still has a protruding lens, with F2.3 at tele.
The thought process and story behind each camera is different, clearly Sony's designers think that for most consumers will not notice the aperture at tele end and are willing to sacrifice for the sake of portability.
sebastiansong
Senior Member
Thank you for sharing the thought process
I was thinking out loud but the fundamental idea remains. Either one is a good camera and NewbietoPro wont go wrong with either.
To put it simply, the LX7 is a fully loaded swiss army knife with obvious protruding lens. The RX is a nifty sportscar with delivery. If finishing matters and size matter, go for Sony. If you want the entire kitchen sink thrown in just get the LX7.
P.S. LX7 has a lot of art filters as well, more than one can use anyway. I basically shoot RAW + fine jpg.
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NewbietoPro
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Haha.. Thanks zan82 and sebastiansong, I will be going down soon to Funan once i am done with my assignments and projects to try out both, before making the decision.
Thanks for all the advice and guidance on this purchase. Shall post some photos when i got either one of those 2 cameras.
Thanks for all the advice and guidance on this purchase. Shall post some photos when i got either one of those 2 cameras.
Hi, I'm interested in the built-in timelapse feature and has been trying to find out what the limitations are, I'm not talking about battery and SD card capacity here, I am aware of these.
I've downloaded the both the basic and advance guide but sad to say, they are very lacking in details, timelapse is only briefly explained on page 147 of the advance guide and left my questions unanswered. As the guide didn't even detail how to get to the timelapse feature, I've tried the demo sets at 2 different outlets but still couldn't locate it. Pardon me for my failure to find a deeply buried feature but I hope some kind owners of the LX7 can let me know the following :
1. the "Shooting interval" in the advance manual, is that the time in between shots or does that refer to the total time between the first shot and the last?
2. can the "Image count" be set beyond 60 pics? In the manual, it gave examples as 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60pics. Does that mean the time lapse can only be set to a max of 60 shots? It doesn't sound right, 60 shots is less than 3 seconds of video based on 24fps rate.
Alternatively, if someone can just tell me how to get to the time lapse feature, I'll make another attempt at Harvey or Best! Thanks in advance!
I've downloaded the both the basic and advance guide but sad to say, they are very lacking in details, timelapse is only briefly explained on page 147 of the advance guide and left my questions unanswered. As the guide didn't even detail how to get to the timelapse feature, I've tried the demo sets at 2 different outlets but still couldn't locate it. Pardon me for my failure to find a deeply buried feature but I hope some kind owners of the LX7 can let me know the following :
1. the "Shooting interval" in the advance manual, is that the time in between shots or does that refer to the total time between the first shot and the last?
2. can the "Image count" be set beyond 60 pics? In the manual, it gave examples as 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60pics. Does that mean the time lapse can only be set to a max of 60 shots? It doesn't sound right, 60 shots is less than 3 seconds of video based on 24fps rate.
Alternatively, if someone can just tell me how to get to the time lapse feature, I'll make another attempt at Harvey or Best! Thanks in advance!
Hi, while waiting, I did more searches and found the following on Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 Review | PhotographyBLOG and quoting a paragraph from there :
"The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7's new Time Lapse Shot mode automatically starts recording a time lapse sequence once the start time, interval and the number of pictures to shoot are set, although there is a slightly disappointing maximum limit of 60 shots and a minimum limit of 1 minute, which rather curbs the creative potential of this mode."
In case anyone else wish to know, well there you have it... disappointing limitation..
However, the F2.3@90mm still beats my S100 so it's still a maybe...
"The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7's new Time Lapse Shot mode automatically starts recording a time lapse sequence once the start time, interval and the number of pictures to shoot are set, although there is a slightly disappointing maximum limit of 60 shots and a minimum limit of 1 minute, which rather curbs the creative potential of this mode."
In case anyone else wish to know, well there you have it... disappointing limitation..
However, the F2.3@90mm still beats my S100 so it's still a maybe...
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F0CU5 said:Hi, while waiting, I did more searches and found the following on Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 Review | PhotographyBLOG and quoting a paragraph from there :
"The Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7's new Time Lapse Shot mode automatically starts recording a time lapse sequence once the start time, interval and the number of pictures to shoot are set, although there is a slightly disappointing maximum limit of 60 shots and a minimum limit of 1 minute, which rather curbs the creative potential of this mode."
In case anyone else wish to know, well there you have it... disappointing limitation..
However, the F2.3@90mm still beats my S100 so it's still a maybe...
Just curious, which other compact camera on the same consideration set has timelapse photography such that LX7 becomes disappointing, in your opinion? To my knowledge , among compacts with large than 1/2.33" sensor, there isn't any cameras with built in intervalometer right?
Not the XZ-1, RX100, S100, X10.
P7100 does feature time lapse, but this probably doesn't belong to the same group of cameras that you are considering.
That saying, nothing's stopping third parties from developing solutions to tackle this, ha.
To your point about "other compact cameras", you are exactly right, my S100 certainly doesn't which is why I'm looking at the LX7. My disappointment is with the limitation of the timelapse feature, not with the LX7 in it's entirety. I don't see the LX7 as just "another compact", it's quite a capable one and when I saw that Panasonic built a timelapse feature into it, I thought I'm finally going to be able to have a capable compact that also does timelapse without an intervalometer attached.
So when I confirmed that it only does 60 shots maximum, I wondered why Panasonic included that feature in the first place. It's like those cameras that claims to support ISO6400 or higher but the IQ is almost unusable? That's really my point, I don't see how those 60 shots can be useful, to me at least.
For time lapse, I am looking for at least 240 shots or more to make at least 10secs worth of video, so I hope Panasonic might have that in their LX9 (or a firmware upgrade for the LX7!) but they'd need to include a bigger battery that gives more than the current 330shots.
astroboy
Senior Member
If I may be allowed to create more confusion. For someone who feels video capabilities is vital, check this out:
"The RX100 is a camera that fits in your jeans pocket. Would I consider intercutting RX100 footage with 1080p from a pro Super 35mm cinema camera? Yes I would..."
Quote from: EOSHD.com
"The RX100 is a camera that fits in your jeans pocket. Would I consider intercutting RX100 footage with 1080p from a pro Super 35mm cinema camera? Yes I would..."
Quote from: EOSHD.com
Bridgerock
Senior Member
Just wondering. Is RX100 Full HD video better than LX7 say comparing at 28Mbps bit rate? I have been searching for a compact for Full HD video usage. The videos on Youtube and Vimeo, the RX100 seems to offer better video quality. Would like to hear from the bros here on their views esp on the Full HD videos.
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