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LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB! (45!!) You'll Never Walk Alone!!
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roadrunner_552
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Under-fire Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez on the brink of sealing four-year deal at Juventus
Juventus expect Rafa Benitez to sign a four-year deal at the Stadio Olimpico in the next fortnight.
Sources in Turin claimed on Friday night that the clubs lawyers were in discussions over a financial package to compensate Benitez for the pay-off he would forfeit by walking out on Liverpool.
Benitez is ready to quit to take up his new post as successor to caretaker manager Alberto Zaccheroni but is mindful that he would be due at least £15million from Liverpool if he stayed put and waited for the axe to fall.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sealing-year-deal-Juventus.html#ixzz0mxF83M1I
Juventus expect Rafa Benitez to sign a four-year deal at the Stadio Olimpico in the next fortnight.
Sources in Turin claimed on Friday night that the clubs lawyers were in discussions over a financial package to compensate Benitez for the pay-off he would forfeit by walking out on Liverpool.
Benitez is ready to quit to take up his new post as successor to caretaker manager Alberto Zaccheroni but is mindful that he would be due at least £15million from Liverpool if he stayed put and waited for the axe to fall.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sealing-year-deal-Juventus.html#ixzz0mxF83M1I
roDz
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so we have to start building a new team...that'll take at least 2 seasons to bear results...players chopping & changing...i wonder who's better than Rafa to bring us forward...oneill? not good enough for me...maybe if Rafa does leave...& we have a richer owner, i'd like hiddink...or moanrhino...anyone else is a step down...:think:
harrynkl
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tat y i look up at the league, see where my standing :bsmilie:
marios_pittas
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Totally agree with you rodz. O'Neill would be totally untested in such an environment. Hiddick or the special one would do just nicely. I feel Rafa has decided enough is enough. Some would claim, that he decided so some time back though...
-- marios
Cheesecake
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at least for this season, o'neill is beta than raf999.
at least the table never lie and that is wat is stated there, no.6 aston villa, no.7 LFC.
SAD but TRUE!!
no.7!!! oh sai!! graeme souness is back!
marios_pittas
Senior Member
Lets pray that the change from Rafa -> something else, it would be for something better, not for 6th.. at the end of the day, Rafa did deliver 2nd spot, Champions League and ... Soooonnessless delivered a lot of upheaval, pain and tears!
Cheesecake
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so we r grateful for the beautiful memories he has brought us, i mean raf999, not souness. hahahaha! :bsmilie:
but it is time to move on, move forward and raf999 shud do the honourable thing and quit and not to demand such a heavy severance fees. if he does that, i will respect him. :thumbsup:
marios_pittas
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I think if the management is smart, Rafa is at a point where he wants out.. so let him ask to leave rather than push him out. But I agree with you, we are thankful for the memories. Time to move on.
Cheesecake
Senior Member
very very sad.
RESCUE REQUIRED AT ANFIELD?
By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent
May 4, 2010
Liverpool's asking price for a takeover may be as much as an inflated £800 million, according to analysis from a leading City expert in football finance.
The replacement or refurbishment of Anfield is a key issue in any takeover.
And David Bick, Chairman of Square 1 Consulting, argues that Liverpool are in urgent need of a "rescue" package rather than a takeover, as the club need to move from their crumbling Anfield to a new stadium, and are in danger of losing star players such as Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard.
Bick is an advisor to Keith Harris, who has been behind two abortive takeover bids for the stricken club in the recent past, and says City sources have informed him that even the reduced price the two American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett might accept, £500 million, is far too high, saying: "Rumours abound of a price being asked from £500 million up to an incredible £800 million."
While Harris is a leading light in the 'Red Knights' group heavily linked with trying to buy out the Glazers at Manchester United, Bick has focused on their North-West rivals and warns of an impending £10 million fee to be imposed by the Royal Bank of Scotland to extend bank-loan facilities for a further six months.
And Bick suggests that, while the club is due to publish and publicise a £35 million profit, there are huge similarities with the recent Manchester United bond issue launched after a similar posting of a putative financial gain.
As part of their bond prospectus, United were able to claim a £48.2 million profit, having sold Cristiano Ronaldo for £80 million while Liverpool sold Xabi Alonso for £35 million to Real Madrid last summer - almost the exact amount Bick believes will be trumpeted as this year's profit.
In a damning indictment of financial affairs and long-standing neglect at Liverpool, Bick writes in an open letter: "Liverpool has potentially reached its most important historic point. The club has now gone 20 years without winning the English League title. It has never won the Premier League. It was drummed out earlier than expected from this year's Champions League and now, as one of the world's biggest clubs, faces the ignominy and reality of failing to qualify for next season's premier European competition.
"To my mind, the people running the club over the last two decades must bear the bulk of the responsibility and the brunt of the criticism. On a recent visit to Anfield to watch my team, West Ham, play like a pub team with a Force 10 hangover, one had only to look at the stadium to see the years of dreadful neglect at first hand. Unbelievably, there are still pillars holding up one roof!
"Whether it comes down to incompetence or thoughtless arrogance at Liverpool, we have seen the club left behind by the other great clubs like Arsenal, Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea and Spurs. They have rebuilt their stadia to high standards and, largely speaking, to capacities that accommodate their substantial fan bases. Yet all Liverpool fans have heard is talk and a string of broken promises.
"The other clubs have built their revenue streams or attracted owners that have given them the wherewithal to compete effectively at the top of the modern game. It seems to me that the Liverpool fans are being treated to a 'product' that is rooted in the 1970s. Sadly, in very recent times, Liverpool has also been owned by people who have said much and delivered little of the stated vision. Replacing them is a very urgent imperative.
"Liverpool claimed in a recent statement that it has 'overseen a significant improvement in the financial performance of the club since 2007'. Well, that's difficult to assess. The management has not published accounts for Kop Football (Holdings) Limited - the main trading company - since the filing for the year to 31 July 2008 and, in that year, the business showed net losses of over £42 million and net interest payments on debt of £35 million not covered at all (let alone adequately) by operating profit - pre-player amortisation and trading - of £25 million.
"Debt remains stubbornly near a reported £240 million, so what profits are produced do not leave much, if anything, for the manager to work with, even if we believe rumours of a £35 million profit for the year that will end this 31 July. In short, Liverpool's financial structure can't work in my opinion and, since the sale of the club in 2007, it was never going to.
"If the manager cannot operate competitively in the transfer market, he has no chance of competing regularly in the top four. We have now seen the first concrete sign of this with the failure to even stay in the top four. Manchester United, a club manfully trying to cope with a similarly onerous financial structure will also, I believe, start to experience similar problems, although their state of decline is nowhere near as advanced as Liverpool's.
"It seems axiomatic to me that Liverpool needs new, responsible owners and new top-flight, football-experienced executive management. It will not be beyond the wit of man, the new well regarded chairman included, to find such a new owner. But first of all, Liverpool needs to stop spinning silly numbers. Rumours abound of a price being asked from £500 million up to an incredible £800 million, the lower of which is, in my view, way over the top for a club in its current condition and by any sensible comparison with Arsenal or Manchester United.
Bick pinpoints the burning issue of a new stadium, a project that has stalled during over three years of American ownership, and says that this can only make any takeover more complicated.
"Financially at least, Liverpool must have a new stadium if it is to have any hope of restoring past glories," he writes. "But the finance for that, and any subsequent financial benefit to owners, must accrue to those who put up the money. In any case, this will not be a conventional acquisition of a football asset - it is more likely now to be a rescue.
"The new owners will need to be people of high calibre. They will need to have access to very large sums of money to build the new stadium, revitalise the management and allow for a well thought-through strengthening of the playing squad."
On the current and much-debated issue of Rafael Benitez's future as Liverpool manager, Bick expresses the pressing need for stability to be restored or else the club could face a doomsday scenario. "Right now, Liverpool is at risk of losing its manager and some of its best players, demoralised by a recent Europa Cup semi-final defeat and a poor season. While no-one is irreplaceable, such an exodus will leave a new owner with an even more difficult task. Therefore, the new chairman of Liverpool needs to act with some swiftness.
"Once decline becomes precipitous, even money may not prevent the decline spiralling into permanency."
Bick's open letter, headed 'Rescuing Liverpool', seen by Soccernet, may well cause shock waves among the Premier League community and not just at Anfield.
RESCUE REQUIRED AT ANFIELD?
Finance expert predicts bleak Liverpool future
By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent
May 4, 2010
Liverpool's asking price for a takeover may be as much as an inflated £800 million, according to analysis from a leading City expert in football finance.
The replacement or refurbishment of Anfield is a key issue in any takeover.
And David Bick, Chairman of Square 1 Consulting, argues that Liverpool are in urgent need of a "rescue" package rather than a takeover, as the club need to move from their crumbling Anfield to a new stadium, and are in danger of losing star players such as Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard.
Bick is an advisor to Keith Harris, who has been behind two abortive takeover bids for the stricken club in the recent past, and says City sources have informed him that even the reduced price the two American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett might accept, £500 million, is far too high, saying: "Rumours abound of a price being asked from £500 million up to an incredible £800 million."
While Harris is a leading light in the 'Red Knights' group heavily linked with trying to buy out the Glazers at Manchester United, Bick has focused on their North-West rivals and warns of an impending £10 million fee to be imposed by the Royal Bank of Scotland to extend bank-loan facilities for a further six months.
And Bick suggests that, while the club is due to publish and publicise a £35 million profit, there are huge similarities with the recent Manchester United bond issue launched after a similar posting of a putative financial gain.
As part of their bond prospectus, United were able to claim a £48.2 million profit, having sold Cristiano Ronaldo for £80 million while Liverpool sold Xabi Alonso for £35 million to Real Madrid last summer - almost the exact amount Bick believes will be trumpeted as this year's profit.
In a damning indictment of financial affairs and long-standing neglect at Liverpool, Bick writes in an open letter: "Liverpool has potentially reached its most important historic point. The club has now gone 20 years without winning the English League title. It has never won the Premier League. It was drummed out earlier than expected from this year's Champions League and now, as one of the world's biggest clubs, faces the ignominy and reality of failing to qualify for next season's premier European competition.
"To my mind, the people running the club over the last two decades must bear the bulk of the responsibility and the brunt of the criticism. On a recent visit to Anfield to watch my team, West Ham, play like a pub team with a Force 10 hangover, one had only to look at the stadium to see the years of dreadful neglect at first hand. Unbelievably, there are still pillars holding up one roof!
"Whether it comes down to incompetence or thoughtless arrogance at Liverpool, we have seen the club left behind by the other great clubs like Arsenal, Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea and Spurs. They have rebuilt their stadia to high standards and, largely speaking, to capacities that accommodate their substantial fan bases. Yet all Liverpool fans have heard is talk and a string of broken promises.
"The other clubs have built their revenue streams or attracted owners that have given them the wherewithal to compete effectively at the top of the modern game. It seems to me that the Liverpool fans are being treated to a 'product' that is rooted in the 1970s. Sadly, in very recent times, Liverpool has also been owned by people who have said much and delivered little of the stated vision. Replacing them is a very urgent imperative.
"Liverpool claimed in a recent statement that it has 'overseen a significant improvement in the financial performance of the club since 2007'. Well, that's difficult to assess. The management has not published accounts for Kop Football (Holdings) Limited - the main trading company - since the filing for the year to 31 July 2008 and, in that year, the business showed net losses of over £42 million and net interest payments on debt of £35 million not covered at all (let alone adequately) by operating profit - pre-player amortisation and trading - of £25 million.
"Debt remains stubbornly near a reported £240 million, so what profits are produced do not leave much, if anything, for the manager to work with, even if we believe rumours of a £35 million profit for the year that will end this 31 July. In short, Liverpool's financial structure can't work in my opinion and, since the sale of the club in 2007, it was never going to.
"If the manager cannot operate competitively in the transfer market, he has no chance of competing regularly in the top four. We have now seen the first concrete sign of this with the failure to even stay in the top four. Manchester United, a club manfully trying to cope with a similarly onerous financial structure will also, I believe, start to experience similar problems, although their state of decline is nowhere near as advanced as Liverpool's.
"It seems axiomatic to me that Liverpool needs new, responsible owners and new top-flight, football-experienced executive management. It will not be beyond the wit of man, the new well regarded chairman included, to find such a new owner. But first of all, Liverpool needs to stop spinning silly numbers. Rumours abound of a price being asked from £500 million up to an incredible £800 million, the lower of which is, in my view, way over the top for a club in its current condition and by any sensible comparison with Arsenal or Manchester United.
Bick pinpoints the burning issue of a new stadium, a project that has stalled during over three years of American ownership, and says that this can only make any takeover more complicated.
"Financially at least, Liverpool must have a new stadium if it is to have any hope of restoring past glories," he writes. "But the finance for that, and any subsequent financial benefit to owners, must accrue to those who put up the money. In any case, this will not be a conventional acquisition of a football asset - it is more likely now to be a rescue.
"The new owners will need to be people of high calibre. They will need to have access to very large sums of money to build the new stadium, revitalise the management and allow for a well thought-through strengthening of the playing squad."
On the current and much-debated issue of Rafael Benitez's future as Liverpool manager, Bick expresses the pressing need for stability to be restored or else the club could face a doomsday scenario. "Right now, Liverpool is at risk of losing its manager and some of its best players, demoralised by a recent Europa Cup semi-final defeat and a poor season. While no-one is irreplaceable, such an exodus will leave a new owner with an even more difficult task. Therefore, the new chairman of Liverpool needs to act with some swiftness.
"Once decline becomes precipitous, even money may not prevent the decline spiralling into permanency."
Bick's open letter, headed 'Rescuing Liverpool', seen by Soccernet, may well cause shock waves among the Premier League community and not just at Anfield.
Cheesecake
Senior Member
LIVERPOOL NEWS
By Soccernet staff
May 4, 2010
Rafael Benitez has not received any offers and wants to stay at Liverpool, according to his agent.
Benitez has been strongly linked with a move to Juventus and it had been believed that the deal was all but done, with the manager seeming to hint at an imminent move ahead of the weekend's crunch clash when he said: "Hopefully I will still be here on Sunday against Chelsea."
However, reports on Tuesday have suggested his move to Juventus could now be in doubt and, as Benitez prepares to meet with new chairman Martin Broughton to discuss the future of the club, his agent has said the Spaniard has no plans to walk away.
"We have not received any offers from any club," Manuel Garcia Quilon said. "Benitez's aim is to remain at Liverpool and try to help the team improve with new owners. He is under contract and his wish is to remain at Liverpool."
Quilon had earlier been less clear about his client's future when he said: "This week Rafa will meet the president of the club. From what I know, he wants to stay on at Liverpool.
"Benitez wants to know the club's plans for future, what the investment in players will be like. For him, this is a very important detail.
"I have not made any agreement with Juve. Benitez has four years on his contract with Liverpool."
The news comes amid reports Benitez has twice cancelled his planned meetings with Broughton. BBC Sport claims the Spaniard pulled out of a face-to-face meeting last week and another the week before, although his reasons for doing so are not clear.
Juventus goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon, meanwhile, has said he would be happy to see Benitez take charge at the club.
"Rafa Benitez's CV is really good," he said on Sky Sports News. "Tactically he's a very good manager and he's also shown he can deal with problems off the pitch. Benitez is a great professional that every team would like to have."
pls jus get out of LFC. we hate u to the core!!!
Agent: Benitez has no offers and wants to stay
By Soccernet staff
May 4, 2010
Rafael Benitez has not received any offers and wants to stay at Liverpool, according to his agent.
Benitez has been strongly linked with a move to Juventus and it had been believed that the deal was all but done, with the manager seeming to hint at an imminent move ahead of the weekend's crunch clash when he said: "Hopefully I will still be here on Sunday against Chelsea."
However, reports on Tuesday have suggested his move to Juventus could now be in doubt and, as Benitez prepares to meet with new chairman Martin Broughton to discuss the future of the club, his agent has said the Spaniard has no plans to walk away.
"We have not received any offers from any club," Manuel Garcia Quilon said. "Benitez's aim is to remain at Liverpool and try to help the team improve with new owners. He is under contract and his wish is to remain at Liverpool."
Quilon had earlier been less clear about his client's future when he said: "This week Rafa will meet the president of the club. From what I know, he wants to stay on at Liverpool.
"Benitez wants to know the club's plans for future, what the investment in players will be like. For him, this is a very important detail.
"I have not made any agreement with Juve. Benitez has four years on his contract with Liverpool."
The news comes amid reports Benitez has twice cancelled his planned meetings with Broughton. BBC Sport claims the Spaniard pulled out of a face-to-face meeting last week and another the week before, although his reasons for doing so are not clear.
Juventus goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon, meanwhile, has said he would be happy to see Benitez take charge at the club.
"Rafa Benitez's CV is really good," he said on Sky Sports News. "Tactically he's a very good manager and he's also shown he can deal with problems off the pitch. Benitez is a great professional that every team would like to have."
pls jus get out of LFC. we hate u to the core!!!
lose the cb's and u'll probably start liking him again..
Cheesecake
Senior Member
:think: CB??
paiseh, i was thinking of something else, and for a moment, i tot u're like one of those closet ppl. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
the cowboys got us into such a mess and raf999 tinker too much. :sticktong
zhapchit
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roDz
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if Rafa goes,and LFC fans can juz be contented with a manager who for only one season got a place higher than the current manager...as the replacement...i think LFC is not moving fwd...oneill is juz not good enough...nvr better than Rafa anytime...even if villa finished this season one plc above LFC...what else has oneill achieved?
roDz
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Good news for those LFC fans who want stability...
i dont hate RB...hes brought us our 5th big ears...hes a legend...:thumbsup:
i dont hate RB...hes brought us our 5th big ears...hes a legend...:thumbsup:
the last ghost dissipated a couple days ago.. :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
u know, the one with the big hole in the pocket..
roadrunner_552
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should have a honour list sticky on the 1st post of the thread for our closest fans. :bsmilie:
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