Cheesecake
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akane said:
no preferred manager? haha
Liverpool and Gerard Houllier and Emile Heskey
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no preferred manager? haha
Cheesecake
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still 0-0
wa... demoralising leh...
wa... demoralising leh...
Cheesecake
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Cheesecake said:
saddening... y still 0-0?
now 70+mins...
Cheesecake
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yes!
a last min Hyypia goal!
y always make things so EXCITING for us fans??? nearly fainted! :cry:
a last min Hyypia goal!
y always make things so EXCITING for us fans??? nearly fainted! :cry:
Cheesecake
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we won with a last min header off a corner... 2mins into injury time
aren't we playing at Anfield? no style no finesse...
we should rule the roost from start to end!
getting used to it.
aren't we playing at Anfield? no style no finesse...
we should rule the roost from start to end!
getting used to it.
i was on Gamecast, via Soccernet, Pools only had two shots on goal (and both off target) during the 1st half, whereas for Chelsea and Arsenal, they were shooting like no body biz!
pathetic!
hehee...to quote someone "but a win is a win....we could have got a few more if luck is on our side, and with better referring.......blah blah" heheheee sound familar??
Anfield? hehehe....now it has become a hunting ground for visiting teams.....Pools always performs better away..... :dunno:
pathetic!
hehee...to quote someone "but a win is a win....we could have got a few more if luck is on our side, and with better referring.......blah blah" heheheee sound familar??
Anfield? hehehe....now it has become a hunting ground for visiting teams.....Pools always performs better away..... :dunno:
Cheesecake said:we won with a last min header off a corner... 2mins into injury time
aren't we playing at Anfield? no style no finesse...
we should rule the roost from start to end!
getting used to it.
Cheesecake
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yeah
someone still had the cheek to ask why fans are moaning over a win??
oh man, no one told him why??
saddening. but credit to Wolves! they played their socks off! :thumbsup:
Dave Jones for Liverpool! haha
someone still had the cheek to ask why fans are moaning over a win??
oh man, no one told him why??
saddening. but credit to Wolves! they played their socks off! :thumbsup:
Dave Jones for Liverpool! haha
2 off target shots, and only in the 1st half? Something's not right there. We definitely had one on target shot in the 2nd half that hit the back of the net. I also have a shot of Owen skying the ball from 6 yards out, 2nd half too. And Riise nearly scored second half with a piledriver (off target). And Gerrard hit side netting, injury time. And I know someone forced a good save off Jones, can't remember who off hand. Owen drove two wide in the first half. Diouf had a decent chipped shot from an acute angle in the 2nd half. So 2 shots is definitely not right, I definitely have more pictures of more shots than that.
That said, we still lacked creativity.
Then again, maybe you're referring to only 2 shots in the first half? And plenty in the 2nd? Well we had plenty in the 2nd, so that made up for it. I can't honestly remember how many shots we had in the first half but yes I did remember sending action and Houllier pics.
That said, we still lacked creativity.
Then again, maybe you're referring to only 2 shots in the first half? And plenty in the 2nd? Well we had plenty in the 2nd, so that made up for it. I can't honestly remember how many shots we had in the first half but yes I did remember sending action and Houllier pics.
MichaelLee
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for me, I only need results.
Only if we are leading the league by a big gap, then I might consider to talk about skillful performance.
But this scenario had not happened so a long long time liao.....
a win is a win. I dun care whether we play attacking or defending football.
The most important is to bang in 3 points and at 4th place
So far in this season, we put on some good performance and we dominated the whole attacking and yet we lost the game. many of them, the most recent one is against 0-2 to Southampton.
With 9 games remaining, although we have 5 home game, we have to face arsenal, MU and newcastle. Though games ahead. Hope we do achieve 4th at the end. /
Sat, Mar 27 at Leicester City
Sat, Apr 3 Blackburn
Sat, Apr 10 at Arsenal
Mon, Apr 12 Charlton
Sat, Apr 17 Fulham
Sat, Apr 24 at Manchester United
Sat, May 1 Middlesbrough
Sat, May 8 at Birmingham City
Sat, May 15 Newcastle United
Only if we are leading the league by a big gap, then I might consider to talk about skillful performance.
But this scenario had not happened so a long long time liao.....
a win is a win. I dun care whether we play attacking or defending football.
The most important is to bang in 3 points and at 4th place
So far in this season, we put on some good performance and we dominated the whole attacking and yet we lost the game. many of them, the most recent one is against 0-2 to Southampton.
With 9 games remaining, although we have 5 home game, we have to face arsenal, MU and newcastle. Though games ahead. Hope we do achieve 4th at the end. /
Sat, Mar 27 at Leicester City
Sat, Apr 3 Blackburn
Sat, Apr 10 at Arsenal
Mon, Apr 12 Charlton
Sat, Apr 17 Fulham
Sat, Apr 24 at Manchester United
Sat, May 1 Middlesbrough
Sat, May 8 at Birmingham City
Sat, May 15 Newcastle United
Cheesecake
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Go Liverpool GO!
thank goodness we bagged 3 points against Wolves...
the performance was and :bigeyes:
stand up and be counted now! Go Liverpool GO!! :thumbsup:
thank goodness we bagged 3 points against Wolves...
the performance was
and :bigeyes: stand up and be counted now! Go Liverpool GO!! :thumbsup:
MARCH 21
Why Arsene's my man and Alex isn't
Yap Koon Hong
THE SPORTS EDITOR
IS THERE more to sport than money, success and fame, and more of the same thereafter?
The answer to this is why Arsene Wenger is my man and Alex Ferguson is not.
It is not because Wenger, the urbane French manager of Arsenal is more handsome than the gum-chewing Scot of Manchester United.
Or that the Frenchman is more erudite academically with a Masters in Economics.
These count for nothing.
The two men are in a league of their own in the Premiership.
For the past 10 years, the script has been virtually the same: Manchester United against Arsenal for England's - and Singapore's - most ardent crown: the Premiership trophy.
Ferguson may be the more successful manager, but he took longer to succeed in a United whose resources are at least twice Arsenal's.
Many may consider success as the ultimate yardstick.
But there is certainly something more as a measure of a giant in sport as Ferguson and Wenger will be when they are through with football.
The key criterion, after the money and the glory have been toted up, is: Whose reasons are worth admiring for their involvement in sport.
Ferguson rules with the rod (do as he says, not as he does), allows little or no room for individual expression (Jaap Stam, David Beckham) and keeps pets openly (Eric Cantona, Roy Keane).
Wenger loves all his players equally and to a fault (the team with the highest consistency in drawing red cards), keeping them past their use-by date (Tony Adams, Dennis Bergkamp). The Arsenal locker-room is as openly democratic as United's is dictatorial.
Still, these do not describe fully why one manager's tyranny is less admirable than another's indulgence.
What does it for me has to do with the difference between a horse and a hypothetical soccer school for the underprivileged in India.
Ferguson is a man apparently obsessed with money, success and fame and more of it thereafter. Wenger does not appear to be.
How else can one describe Ferguson's ugly wrangle over sperm rights to a prize-winning racehorse, the Rock of Gibraltar, in which he was willing to turn a pal in wealthy Irishman John Magnier into a bitter enemy?
United are in a shambles because of Ferguson's unseemly distraction in the affair which is about money and inflated ego.
Wenger? He told the British Broadcasting Corporation in a documentary aired two weeks ago here that once he was through with Arsenal, more money, fame and success do not figure in his plans.
Instead, it would be more rewarding if he could start anew, like opening a soccer school among the underprivileged in India.
That would give him as much joie de vivre as his most satisfying moments in managing Arsenal which were not so much the trophies he won, but the moments when his players take flight in a game and engage football with pure joy and instinct, like the children they once were.
So, while an attitude like Ferguson's may be prized in the cut-throat world of professional sport, a philosophy like Wenger's is priceless in the world of values, precisely because he tells us something incredibly rare.
That sport - and life - is not only about money, success and fame, but the satisfaction in bringing about meaningful change, minor though it may be.
Why Arsene's my man and Alex isn't
Yap Koon Hong
THE SPORTS EDITOR
IS THERE more to sport than money, success and fame, and more of the same thereafter?
The answer to this is why Arsene Wenger is my man and Alex Ferguson is not.
It is not because Wenger, the urbane French manager of Arsenal is more handsome than the gum-chewing Scot of Manchester United.
Or that the Frenchman is more erudite academically with a Masters in Economics.
These count for nothing.
The two men are in a league of their own in the Premiership.
For the past 10 years, the script has been virtually the same: Manchester United against Arsenal for England's - and Singapore's - most ardent crown: the Premiership trophy.
Ferguson may be the more successful manager, but he took longer to succeed in a United whose resources are at least twice Arsenal's.
Many may consider success as the ultimate yardstick.
But there is certainly something more as a measure of a giant in sport as Ferguson and Wenger will be when they are through with football.
The key criterion, after the money and the glory have been toted up, is: Whose reasons are worth admiring for their involvement in sport.
Ferguson rules with the rod (do as he says, not as he does), allows little or no room for individual expression (Jaap Stam, David Beckham) and keeps pets openly (Eric Cantona, Roy Keane).
Wenger loves all his players equally and to a fault (the team with the highest consistency in drawing red cards), keeping them past their use-by date (Tony Adams, Dennis Bergkamp). The Arsenal locker-room is as openly democratic as United's is dictatorial.
Still, these do not describe fully why one manager's tyranny is less admirable than another's indulgence.
What does it for me has to do with the difference between a horse and a hypothetical soccer school for the underprivileged in India.
Ferguson is a man apparently obsessed with money, success and fame and more of it thereafter. Wenger does not appear to be.
How else can one describe Ferguson's ugly wrangle over sperm rights to a prize-winning racehorse, the Rock of Gibraltar, in which he was willing to turn a pal in wealthy Irishman John Magnier into a bitter enemy?
United are in a shambles because of Ferguson's unseemly distraction in the affair which is about money and inflated ego.
Wenger? He told the British Broadcasting Corporation in a documentary aired two weeks ago here that once he was through with Arsenal, more money, fame and success do not figure in his plans.
Instead, it would be more rewarding if he could start anew, like opening a soccer school among the underprivileged in India.
That would give him as much joie de vivre as his most satisfying moments in managing Arsenal which were not so much the trophies he won, but the moments when his players take flight in a game and engage football with pure joy and instinct, like the children they once were.
So, while an attitude like Ferguson's may be prized in the cut-throat world of professional sport, a philosophy like Wenger's is priceless in the world of values, precisely because he tells us something incredibly rare.
That sport - and life - is not only about money, success and fame, but the satisfaction in bringing about meaningful change, minor though it may be.
MichaelLee
Senior Member
Discuss Liverpool matter here as the objective of this thread.
Other managers are not that related lah...or u can start a new thread with EPL Manager ?????
Other managers are not that related lah...or u can start a new thread with EPL Manager ?????
Cheesecake
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hmmm
i wouldn't mind having Wenger as the boss for Liverpool... haha
but i know he minds! that's the problem!
i wouldn't mind having Wenger as the boss for Liverpool... haha
but i know he minds! that's the problem!
well just thought that..i think most liverpool fans hate manure..and i actually hope to know the reason why..
for me it's the manager, the fans and the players...
i used to like manure..when they have players like bryan robson, gary pallister, steve bruce, lee sharpe, eric cantona etc..
but after the new batch of players came in..beckham (although i don't really hate him - especially after seeing how he protect danny mills in WC2002), nicky butt, gary neville, phil neville..i started to dislike them for being arrogant, cocky and they play dirty.
so what's your reason for disliking manure? :devil:
for me it's the manager, the fans and the players...
i used to like manure..when they have players like bryan robson, gary pallister, steve bruce, lee sharpe, eric cantona etc..
but after the new batch of players came in..beckham (although i don't really hate him - especially after seeing how he protect danny mills in WC2002), nicky butt, gary neville, phil neville..i started to dislike them for being arrogant, cocky and they play dirty.
so what's your reason for disliking manure? :devil:
MichaelLee
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because they are too arrogant.
and if u are a believer of God, u should not like the Devils.
and if u are a believer of God, u should not like the Devils.
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