LFC II - You'll never Walk Alone
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Cheesecake
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no player shall be bigger than the club.
MichaelLee
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Cheesecake said:
that is alos true.
but.....if we really lost Gerrard..the implication behinds;
1) we every season have to sell one of great/best player.. Do u see that it is a healthy club ?
2) we could not keep our local boys
3) not even our most die hard fans want to stay with us..How do u convince others LFC fans to stay with us ? might as well we become Chelski fans
4) not even our captain think that he is worth to lead the team anymroe..where is the confidence of the other player to think that there is a hope to stay put with the remaining squad ?
5) fail to keep the players we want...and how are u going to attract good players joining us ??
6) that also send a message to the academic players..train hard, play good football and one day u can leave Liverpool for better prospect.
To a certain extent i agree with you. My gut feeling is Gerrard will stay. However, even if he leaves, now will be the perfect time. It's true that he fnish last season as the leading captain of the Euro Champs and thus highly valued.wong_se said:
Who knows how he will peform this season ....
MichaelLee
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nemesis32 said:
this is most likely for the worst scenario.
(the worst scenario is that we cash in 30m for Gerrard.)
MichaelLee
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nemesis32 said:
I hope your gut feeling will come true.
Of course if we want to cash in..now is the best time.
We dun want to have another Big Sale..ie..by end of next season for another 8m+Nunez kinda of bullsh*t deal in exchange for our Captain.
Yup.. Thats why i say now is the best time to sell if Gerrard don't stay.
My view is, if Gerrard signs, we are all happy. If he don't sign extension, sell him. Football is now serious business due to the Bosman Ruling....
In the past, we can hold on to any players we want. Now, money talks. If Chelsea throw a 200,00pound/week contract at Gerrard, it would be silly for Liverpool to match it or for Gerrard to turn it down.
It's true we don't want to be a selling club... but honestly, few clubs will be like Real and Chelsea, with such deep pockets. For example, realistically, Man U and AC do not have the money. AC cannot even buy Hespo outright so how to buy Gerrard? Only way for them is to sell Shev, which is impossible. Most likely is still down to Real and Chelsea, which interestingly appear to have an informal agreement not to outbid each other.Imagine if they have that agreement, no clubs can hold either one to Ransom.
If Gerrard is sold for 32m pound as reported with another 3 m in future. We can strengthen by maybe buying Essen for say 20m pound, 15m pound for Robinho... who is to say we are having a short straw?
My view is, if Gerrard signs, we are all happy. If he don't sign extension, sell him. Football is now serious business due to the Bosman Ruling....
In the past, we can hold on to any players we want. Now, money talks. If Chelsea throw a 200,00pound/week contract at Gerrard, it would be silly for Liverpool to match it or for Gerrard to turn it down.
It's true we don't want to be a selling club... but honestly, few clubs will be like Real and Chelsea, with such deep pockets. For example, realistically, Man U and AC do not have the money. AC cannot even buy Hespo outright so how to buy Gerrard? Only way for them is to sell Shev, which is impossible. Most likely is still down to Real and Chelsea, which interestingly appear to have an informal agreement not to outbid each other.Imagine if they have that agreement, no clubs can hold either one to Ransom.
If Gerrard is sold for 32m pound as reported with another 3 m in future. We can strengthen by maybe buying Essen for say 20m pound, 15m pound for Robinho... who is to say we are having a short straw?
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MichaelLee
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LONDON, July 5 (Reuters) - Chelsea have made a bid for Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard but the European champions say they will turn it down.
"I can confirm we have had a bid from Chelsea and that it will be rejected by us," Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry told BBC Sport on Tuesday.
Newspapers had reported the English champions had bid a British record 32 million pounds ($56.28 million) to prise the inspirational England midfielder away from his hometown club.
That would eclipse the 29.1 million pounds Manchester United paid to Leeds United for England defender Rio Ferdinand in 2002. Real Madrid are also rumoured to be interested in Gerrard.
Liverpool are reported to have responded to a breakdown in talks with Gerrard over the weekend by offering him a two-year contract extension to 2009 on 100,000 pounds a week.
The 25-year-old is thinking over the proposal made after the club held talks with Gerrard and his agent on Monday.
Gerrard said nothing as he left Liverpool's Melwood training ground on Monday. Benitez earlier told a news conference he wanted the midfielder to stay at Liverpool for the rest of his career and could even become the club's next manager.
Liverpool are preparing to face Welsh part-timers TNS in their Champions League first round qualifier on July 13 after winning the trophy against AC Milan in May.
"I can confirm we have had a bid from Chelsea and that it will be rejected by us," Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry told BBC Sport on Tuesday.
Newspapers had reported the English champions had bid a British record 32 million pounds ($56.28 million) to prise the inspirational England midfielder away from his hometown club.
That would eclipse the 29.1 million pounds Manchester United paid to Leeds United for England defender Rio Ferdinand in 2002. Real Madrid are also rumoured to be interested in Gerrard.
Liverpool are reported to have responded to a breakdown in talks with Gerrard over the weekend by offering him a two-year contract extension to 2009 on 100,000 pounds a week.
The 25-year-old is thinking over the proposal made after the club held talks with Gerrard and his agent on Monday.
Gerrard said nothing as he left Liverpool's Melwood training ground on Monday. Benitez earlier told a news conference he wanted the midfielder to stay at Liverpool for the rest of his career and could even become the club's next manager.
Liverpool are preparing to face Welsh part-timers TNS in their Champions League first round qualifier on July 13 after winning the trophy against AC Milan in May.
MichaelLee
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nemesis32 said:
Brother...Robinho is for 50m lah...
Eventhough Robinho join us..he is not the successor of our captain.
He will not lift the whole team spirit and the fans morale like Gerrard did.
btw...no supply, no hard tackle to challenge and no interception from gerrard...Robinho alone can;t do much.
If we are under attack...we can trust that gerrard will run to die to cover the defence...but not Robinho , whoever, or Alonso.
Read thetimeonoline...about Molinho...he comment that spanish is about more tactical , EPL is about passion.
In the whole squad (current 1st 11)..I can only see Carra, Gerrard , Cisse really had the strong passion to fight for the team.
Bro... 50m US is the clause for Robinho. In any case, Real only bid abt 12m pound or 25m US for him, so if we bid about 30m US (15m pound), we may be in for a chance.wong_se said:
As much as i agree that Gerrard is difficult to replace and he's passionate abt liverpool, sometimes, it can be a minus as well. Sometimes, Gerrard runs around like a headless chicken (same case for Beckham when he plays for England). When you take on other players' roles and responsibilities, it may not be a good thing. e.g. imagine if Gerrard comes to Traore's rescue every time there's a tackle to be made, how will Traore improves? Also, by moving forward and trying so many of his trademark (off target) long shots, he's depriving strikers like Baros and Cisse chances to score easier goals....
Football is a team sport. You need balance and not just run on one man's passion. Just like an example i gave about Michael Jordan, he can score 50 every match but his team still lose. In football, it's like Shearer scoring every game for Newcastle 10 years ago, but they still lose to Man U. Overall strength and depth is more impt tahn 1 man's talent.
Speedwagon
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Sell SG. 32M is lots of $$$. If we can use these $$ to get few top class players (if we can), then sell! No point force him to stay n his mind again is on somewhere else for the rest of the season.........unless he's really committed himself, not after loosing a few games n start thinking of leaving...that's wat's he did for last season!
just saw this article from liverpool website...
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149253050705-1435.htm
"The club has made it crystal clear we want to keep Steven at Anfield. Sadly, he has told us this afternoon that he will not accept our offer of an improved and extended contract because he wants to leave Liverpool. We very much regret the decision he has taken."
Gerard is leaving after all!!!!
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149253050705-1435.htm
"The club has made it crystal clear we want to keep Steven at Anfield. Sadly, he has told us this afternoon that he will not accept our offer of an improved and extended contract because he wants to leave Liverpool. We very much regret the decision he has taken."
Gerard is leaving after all!!!!
afbug
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I want to leave Anfield
Veri joins AC after leaving Inter
Wanted to be the good guy by saying that he is staying, but no choice after Liverpool reject Chelsea's bid and with Chelsea and Real's agreement of not competiting with the same player........bo bian liao! :bigeyes:
'Gerrard's confirmation that he did indeed want out would be sure to bring the Bernabeu club to the negotiating table.' - BBC Sport
Veri joins AC after leaving Inter
Wanted to be the good guy by saying that he is staying, but no choice after Liverpool reject Chelsea's bid and with Chelsea and Real's agreement of not competiting with the same player........bo bian liao! :bigeyes:
'Gerrard's confirmation that he did indeed want out would be sure to bring the Bernabeu club to the negotiating table.' - BBC Sport
Well... i just hope we can get the best deal out of him since he;s a Euro champs now... not a bad deal, 1 yr on and his value increase by at least 10m pound....
Liverpool is not a one man team and i am sure even if Gerrard is gone, we can still find success...Just like we won CL despite our "GOD" (Fowler) left us....
Liverpool is not a one man team and i am sure even if Gerrard is gone, we can still find success...Just like we won CL despite our "GOD" (Fowler) left us....
MichaelLee
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sh*t...my gut feeling come true...how I wish it is not .
Gerrard refused to be LFC player even the club offered him an improved contract...
OK..then ..no point liao..Now the best is to source the best buyer for him. 32m from cheslea ? what about Real madrid ?
when Owen left us..we won the Champion League.
let us win the EPL this season after Gerrard left us.
Make Carra the captain. Indeed I wish that we can sell him to Chelsea.
Let us play against him and beat Chelsea as a pounch on his face..
Let us win the EPL whilst he is playing for another EPL club.
Let Carra show off the EPL medal to him..
I am just farking angry and felt piss off...
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Gerrard refused to be LFC player even the club offered him an improved contract...
OK..then ..no point liao..Now the best is to source the best buyer for him. 32m from cheslea ? what about Real madrid ?
when Owen left us..we won the Champion League.
let us win the EPL this season after Gerrard left us.
Make Carra the captain. Indeed I wish that we can sell him to Chelsea.
Let us play against him and beat Chelsea as a pounch on his face..
Let us win the EPL whilst he is playing for another EPL club.
Let Carra show off the EPL medal to him..
I am just farking angry and felt piss off...
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