Lens to recommend for 450D

[eosdigital]

The 70-200 F4L wont do for low light condition, at most what you get in a typical Hall(with it's strong lightings) is 1/30-1/100 at ISO 1600. Abiding by the rule of thumb for handshake-free images,u must at least have a reprocial of the tele range which is minimium 1/200 for the tele end. Therefore i recommend you get the IS version for additional 700. Dont worry about flash as the built in one can suffice a little while more if power is set to +1 - +1.5.

PS: If you travel often, it's better to get the IS version as the non-IS ones does not comes with weather sealing - something vital to prevent dust and shooting in rain.

 

[gman23xx]

I shoot lots of events and and I had lots of OOF pictures while using the 55-250IS on AI Servo mode just because it's slow.

Hmm...weird....55-250mm focuses pretty well...just takes time, when you focus, focus a few times to get the most accurate.


gman

 

[charlesleong]

"just takes time"

precisely.

in events you don't have the time to "just take time" to focus. you have 0.5s to react, 0.5s to frame and zoom and 0.5s to click.

if your lens takes 2s to focus you will lose the shot, and that's important to event photographers.

 

[gman23xx]

"just takes time"

precisely.

in events you don't have the time to "just take time" to focus. you have 0.5s to react, 0.5s to frame and zoom and 0.5s to click.

if your lens takes 2s to focus you will lose the shot, and that's important to event photographers.

Usually i can anticipate my shots, so i can prefocus before it even comes by....besides, i'm not fussy over slow AF....i'm just starting out.


gman

 

[BluSpoon]

kit alr consider standard wide angle
if u looking wider may be the sigma 10-20 bout 600
as for telephotoi think the 70-200 f4l non is would be gd
bout 800 2nd hand

 

[calebk]

oh,forgot to add. canon 10-22 ultra wide angle, allows u to take excellent scenary shots. think its 930bucks.
Forget abt the kit lens, waste time, waste money when u upgrade.

Rubbish.

The kit lens is not a waste of time, nor is it a waste of money. Sure it's not f/2.8, doesn't have L build quality, weather sealing and all that thingumawidgets but it is still a sharp lens that is capable of producing very good images.

Haven't been able to produce good images with it? Don't blame the lens - a foolish workman blames his tools.

I see some magazine saying that the Sigma 10-20mm perform better than the canon 10-22mm. Can anyone confirm this cos the sigma lens cost lesser than the canon

Try looking for a detailed analysis review like those on www.photozone.de

I had the Sigma. Found it value for money.

Hmm...weird....55-250mm focuses pretty well...just takes time, when you focus, focus a few times to get the most accurate.


gman

Ha ha ha. And the rest of the event waits for you to focus a few times before it goes on.

 

[Russ]

Rubbish.

The kit lens is not a waste of time, nor is it a waste of money. Sure it's not f/2.8, doesn't have L build quality, weather sealing and all that thingumawidgets but it is still a sharp lens that is capable of producing very good images.

I have 2 L lenses (17-40 and 70-200). I also have the IS version of the kit lens. Sure, it does not match the 17-40 for contrast and colour, but it is quite sharp and has IS to boot. And it cannot match the 17-55 either. But waste of time? No way. It is light and I use if with my 300D when I want a lighter and smaller combo than my 40D and 17-40L, which weighs in at 0.5kg more I think.

Is it my best lens? No
Have I taken good photos with the kit lens? Yes.

Oh and I have taken nice photos with the 300D as well - out of date? perhaps. But my 300D and kit lens is better than almost any compact out there.

Don't get carried away with getting the latest and best equipment.... there is no end to this and it can distract us from the whole purpose of photography, i.e. to take photos.

 

[gman23xx]

Rubbish.

The kit lens is not a waste of time, nor is it a waste of money. Sure it's not f/2.8, doesn't have L build quality, weather sealing and all that thingumawidgets but it is still a sharp lens that is capable of producing very good images.

Haven't been able to produce good images with it? Don't blame the lens - a foolish workman blames his tools.



Try looking for a detailed analysis review like those on www.photozone.de

I had the Sigma. Found it value for money.



Ha ha ha. And the rest of the event waits for you to focus a few times before it goes on.

Haha...thanks...i know the rest of the world likes waiting for me...haha


gman

 

[calebk]

Haha...thanks...i know the rest of the world likes waiting for me...haha


gman

You must be special.

Time and tide wait for no ordinary man, nor photographer (nor slow AF).

 

[gman23xx]

You must be special.

Time and tide wait for no ordinary man, nor photographer (nor slow AF).

Waits for good people with good hearts.


gman

 

[librus]

Don't blame the lense...i took this shot with a kit lens @ ISO 800 f4.5 exposure 1/6 and still get a decent picture. My advise, juz shoot and practise with your kit first then after sometime you will naturally know what u need.

 

[frostyfrostysnowman]

Waits for good people with good hearts.


gman

AF is so important. I would die in event shoots if my camera decides to do the slow-mo on me.

 

[ahbian]

Waits for good people with good hearts.


gman

Then I guess fast AF is the option for the rest of us.

 

[gman23xx]

AF is so important. I would die in event shoots if my camera decides to do the slow-mo on me.

Different people have different perceptions on photography...besides....i use MF too...so i kinda focus faster at times with MF....i like to relax and take a shoot...not rush or panic...doesn't matter if you miss it....it's not the end.


gman

 

[calebk]

Different people have different perceptions on photography...besides....i use MF too...so i kinda focus faster at times with MF....i like to relax and take a shoot...not rush or panic...doesn't matter if you miss it....it's not the end.


gman

Well...you haven't started shooting situations where missing the shot IS the end, have you?

 

[gman23xx]

Well...you haven't started shooting situations where missing the shot IS the end, have you?

Well, if it works for you in a stereotypical manner...then so be it...everyone has different perceptions...don't we...relax man...you don't have to be so harsh...it's just photography...not life or death.


gman

 

[ahbian]

Different people have different perceptions on photography...besides....i use MF too...so i kinda focus faster at times with MF....i like to relax and take a shoot...not rush or panic...doesn't matter if you miss it....it's not the end.


gman

Try to remember that this thread is started by TS who wish to seek inputs on lens recommendation.

Make your recommendation, there is no need to keep defending it by saying it "suits your personal style."

I agree with you that we have our own style of shooting, but refrain sticking to the assumption that an acceptable compromise to you is also acceptable to the TS.

 

[gman23xx]

Try to remember that this thread is started by TS who wish to seek inputs on lens recommendation.

Make your recommendation, there is no need to keep defending it by saying it "suits your personal style."

I agree with you that we have our own style of shooting, but refrain sticking to the assumption that an acceptable compromise to you is also acceptable to the TS.

I stated my recommendation...people just keep flaming me...


gman

 

[borjjoss]

I stated my recommendation...people just keep flaming me...


gman

I've been hanging in this forum for quite some time now and have learned from a lot of knowledgeable and experienced DSLR users here. But sad to say you're not one of them. It's very obvious you're just a pure beginner and you keep on saying non-sense, that's why photography gurus are pissed at you. Stop playing genius here coz you're just confusing people who wants to learn the art of photography.

 

[charlesleong]

Different people have different perceptions on photography...besides....i use MF too...so i kinda focus faster at times with MF....i like to relax and take a shoot...not rush or panic...doesn't matter if you miss it....it's not the end.


gman

your style of photography may allow for you to have the time to AF slowly or MF even. We can accept that. For portraiture and landscape shooting you tend to have all the time in the world.

Well...you haven't started shooting situations where missing the shot IS the end, have you?

Well, if it works for you in a stereotypical manner...then so be it...everyone has different perceptions...don't we...relax man...you don't have to be so harsh...it's just photography...not life or death.

gman

We ask you to understand that for some photographers who are paid to cover an event, missing the shots IS a life or death situation. Professional obligation and reputation and all that. So for these type of shooters AF speed is a critical consideration when selecting equipment. As Headshotz mentioned, the slow AF of the 55-250 does hinder him when he's shooting events.

Try to remember that this thread is started by TS who wish to seek inputs on lens recommendation.

Make your recommendation, there is no need to keep defending it by saying it "suits your personal style."

I agree with you that we have our own style of shooting, but refrain sticking to the assumption that an acceptable compromise to you is also acceptable to the TS.

I stated my recommendation...people just keep flaming me...

gman

In photography, style is everything. there is no 'wrong' answer, but you seem to be reacting as if yours were the only right solution. The forum exists for us to exchange opinions and points of view, not for us to shoot down others' viewpoints. We can agree to disagree, but try to do it in a friendly manner.

From CS i have learnt many things by just reading and respecting other people's ideas and opinions. I may not agree with everything said, but I respect the right of the poster to that opinion.




At the end of the day it is TS who is buying the lens. IIRC he wanted opinion on a UWA and tele lens, and the options have surfaced:

UWA:
Sigma 10-20
Canon 10-22

Tele:
Canon 55-250
Canon 70-200

Maybe we can refocus the discussion on the relative strengths and weaknesses of these lenses?